Somehow we got on the topic of makeup for TV interviews...(Photo by jurvetson)
Jobs: I have never worn makeup.
Jobs: I don't give a s**t what I look like.
Shriver: But some people do.
Jurvetson: Yeah, like Schwarzenegger. Boy, does he layer it on. Have you ever seen him close up?
Shriver: [chortles] Have I ever seen him close up? I can't believe you asked me that.