Wow. We never assume, because Mary-Kate Olsen may make an ass out of u and me.

wow gawker, what happened to you?

Nick - you can call the EMS public information office to get the exact time that the paramedics got the call, what time they arrived on the scene, and what time they left the scene. The tox tests will definitely tell us what was in Mr. Ledger's blood and respiratory system the day he died.

You're quoting stories from The Sunday Telegraph...whose lead story today is: "How Michelle Will Carry On"???? waahaaahaaaa joke's on you...

This is pretty gross. I can't believe Gawker would stoop to believing the friggin New York Post, for chrissakes, and on the most ridiculous of rumors - for which there is absolutely no evidence. Shame.

@Ack: Plus he totally made that "begs the question" error.

To me one odd thing is the presence of all that Advair. If you have Valium and Xanax, brand or generic, you don't need Advair. It's not a narcotic and its very mild. A guy who's been doing a lot of drugs will not turn to Advair.

As ugly as the allegations are (for all involved, including the publications/websites carrying on these shenanigans), there are valid questions that have been raised and unanswered. It might be reprehensible to make assumptions for motive before we have any evidence, but really... how many logical reasons can you imagine for all of this shady behavior, for which the timeline changes each day - reasons that don't involve covering up something that would result in bad PR? Or criminal indictments?

Something is very fishy here, and I agree with the Post - the police should ask all the hard questions they can think of, and should stop giving the Olsen twins a soft time because they're celebrities. MKO should be questioned thoroughly regarding her bizarre role in this disaster. Innocent until proven guilty, of course, but as a citizen I want the police to be thorough in cases like these. I don't give a fuck if any persons of interest played Michelle Tanner or not.

The cops should -- and probably are -- suspect that one of the private security guys made off with evidence.

rosemary woods lives! the Post? denton? is that you? can't be.

@Michael Jahn: What does one have to do with another? Advair is prescribed for bronchitis, thus presumably pneumonia--which he is said to have had at the time of his death.

Right, obviously anyone linked in such a way should be questioned by police to cover all bases.

Would Olsen's bodyguards have had time, or instructions, to remove any embarrassing evidence?

Yes, in three minutes they would sweep the entire loft (a place they had never seen before) and find every trace of illegal drugs. They wouldn't need to be told where to look because famous people don't conceal their dope; they just keep their drugs, syringes, pipes neatly displayed in plain view.

Or maybe Heath Ledger didn't have anything illegal on the premises at the time of his death. No, that wouldn't make sense. He's a celebrity, so his passing has to be as sordid as possible.

@La Cieca: I think it's less about creating imaginary sordid circumstances and more a matter of him being a healthy 28-year-old dying without any visible cause. Seems perfectly logical that people are speculating. Nobody can deny that the creepy Olsen twin behavoir is just ridiculously weird.

I will watch with interest. We could not transport his remains without a death certificate showing cause.

Anderson Cooper is frowning down upon you, ND. Can't wait till Molly Friedman runs with it.

I read a report that said the one of the private security staff Mary-Kate sent over was also an EMT and that is why no ambulance was called at first. If you are used to the media following your every move (as the Olsens are) then you know how an exercise in discretion can prevent a media circus. My guess is that MK thought the EMT/security could help or at least assess the situation before sirens started blaring and the flashbulbs started popping. Maybe she thought the situation could be dealt with in private by people that she knew and trusted? I'm sure the Olsens are not squeaky clean and I understand that questions need to be asked but I think you need to take into account the fact that these people don't really inhabit the same world as us. If we were in trouble we would call the police, they effectively have their own police and paramedics on the payroll.

I said before that the meds found in Ledger's room included Advair. I meant Ambien. Advair is an asthma med. Sorry.

@Nick Douglas:

I think that Denton misused "begs the question" to piss me off personally. But of course I'm paranoid, including the delusions of grandeur part.

@Curse_of_NursePornstein: I corrected that below.I meant Ambien

@Michael Jahn: Above. I corrected the Advair/Ambien mistake above. It's been a long day.

Is pneumonia at all possible for reason of death? Christian Brando died of it today..just throwing it out there.

@Elektra: I was afraid you'd show up. My another/ the other typo has been driving me crazy!

@Michael Jahn: Need an Ativan?

@Gemma, I think you are right

@Lesbiansayswhat, yes you can die from pneumonia. Mostly it is from complications due to the pneumonia. It can cause respiratory failure, septic shock, blood poisoning, bacteremia and other situations that can kill you. There are also several kinds of pneumonia and other factors that can make pneumonia deadly.

There is a pneumonia severity index to see what risk level people are at for doctors to use. 10% of hospitalized pneumonia patients will die but that is really skewed by the nearly 30% death rate of people in the higher risk situations/groups.

I feel like that NBC thing, 'the more you know ... '

I happen to be a 'Licensed Massage Therapist'. Masseuse is an antiquated hand-jobby insinuating term. Regardless of the massoos'ez credentials, wtf is up with not phoning 911? My fucking dog is trained to do that shit (I tend to overdose, don't judge me). taking 15 minutes to call 911 is fourteen minutes and 50 secs too late.

MK looks sooo Michael Jackson-y these days and Hollywood types and their helpers don't call 911...ever.

OK, don't mean to gloat, but I called this two days ago. I believe she got her people to get the coke out of there before the paramedics/cops showed up. This girl is a notorious party girl/cokehead herself, and he had long battled a coke problem, according to all sorts of people on various movie sets, at film festivals, etc., and they had been partying together, if not sleeping together, over the past few weeks. There have been stories saying they liked to party at the same pace!

Her public image is important to her.

And that statement was chillingly void of any emotion whatsoever. She and her people are freaking out right now.

@Curse_of_NursePornstein:
Got Xanax, but thanks.

why not blame the masseuse, she doesnt have enough sense to call 911 first, then MK. Or did MK happen to tell the masseuse days ago, "if anyone happens to drops dead in the apartment, call me first."

I wonder how Bob Saget will work this into his act.

@Trixie from Toronto: but why would she risk a PR disaster like that when the tox screen would just show that's what he died of if there were drugs involved?

..not to mention some real unavoidable criminal charges.

@lesbiansayswhat: Because on the basis of the tox screen alone, the police couldn't connect the drugs to Olsen.

But if they found the rest of the drug stash in the aparment, maybe they could.

@MisterHippity: Maybe her fingerprints on the evidence might have led to criminal charges. But if her people successfully got rid of that evidence, she may have dodged that bullet.

@lesbiansayswhat: That's my feeling. If the masseuse hadn't called MK, there would be no story here. It's not like she left some note on the fridge saying "hey, by the way, in the event of Heath Ledger's death, CALL ME FIRST. SERIOUS."

I mean, yeah, the circumstances following the discovery of the body are weird, but they don't add up to foul play. Mary-Kate was in Utah, right? Anything Ledger did (drug-wise) would turn up in the tox screen. I don't get it. Is she a suspect? Or is this just some kind of thing where they think maybe she has some reason to know what kind of drugs he was taking because the masseuse called her because she was too stupid to call 911 first?

Yeah, yeah... it was Miss Scarlet in the lounge with the wrench... and Heath Ledger is just as dead.

rosebud

There's something so fishy here, I can smell the mercury.

Too bad MK's flying monkeys missed the rolled up $20. Oops.

@Arundel:

Talk of that was all over the barber shop the other day.

@lesbiansayswhat: Panic?

But good question. I am prepared to take it all back.

Something seems very suspicious about it, though, and given their mutual fondness for "partying," something tells me she was panicked.

OK, so there were all these drugs around the apt. But this talentless, pointless, Olsen nonentity herself is the tawdriest aspect of this case. Would someone please give this toxic troll (and the other one, while you're at it) the hook once and for all?

@annasballs: As a Heath fan, it is quite painful to realize how low he had fallen if he was hanging out with that little druggie monkey and her crowd. So sad.

I am guessing she gave him a package of something, she knew her prints were on it, she wanted it out of the apartment pronto.

Of course, even if MK had given him drugs of some sort, he would've been the one that took them. She's probably not liable for anything, and the police probably just need to technically close the loop. I'm not sticking up for her. Just guessing. If it turns out his death wasn't just from a bad mix of Rx drugs and pneumonia (which is still likely) then he did it to himself, I guess. It's still sad and ugh, I can't even believe I'm commenting on this. I think maybe Gawker should leave this kind of stuff to the tabs.

is it possible that MK and masseuse are just, you know, not that smart and also, you know, weren't thinking fast or straight in an emergency and also, you know, aren't clairvoyant? yeah, clearly there was an instinct to protect images (his, hers, or both) at work, whether or not illicit drugs were present. but that seems to have had little to do with directly how and why heath died...at the end of the day, all twin-and-masseuse-based tittilation aside, this death will still just be stupid, tragic and sad.

@annasballs: Agreed. Ledger was a good actor who distinguished himself in part by being involved with Williams, who is one of the few real-looking women working in Hollywood. The idea that he would go from her to this postmodern Edward Gorey-esque fashionista freak only adds to the grotesqueness of the whole thing.

And to whoever said that Olsen couldn't get in trouble for Ledger ingesting drugs ... no, but she COULD get in trouble if there was enough coke in the apartment to count as intent to sell. Which of course is ridiculous considering her scads of money, but I think that's how the law works ...

@thelambchop: That's most probable here; the unlicensed masseuse could see her professional life flash before her eyes and unfortunately, the first thing that came to mind was not "Call professional health workers!!" but "How do I keep from being found out?!?"
Conspiracy theories about drugs, etc are sorta fun, but I don't think there was a huge cover-up going on, just a couple of witless ninnies no doubt shrieking at each other on the phone.
Then, because she is basically a law-abiding person, she stayed there after calling 911, realizing there was no way out of it; she's fucked. Besides, the housekeeper knew she was there.

I think people who've been in the limelight for as long as the Olsen twins have know how to deal with problems discreetly. I'd be pretty sure they didn't know how serious the problem was, and were trying to see if the whole mess could be dealt with privately. Of course, once they realized he wasn't breathing, no pulse, etc. they flipped the fuck out.

Maybe there was also an attempt to get the place cleaned-up to spare Heath's family some ignominy of having to deal with his dying from a messy overdose. "Complications from Pneumonia" is considerably less mortifying than "deadly cocktail of legal and illegal drugs".

It is just remotely possible that MK and the masseuse were trying to be tasteful and discreet.

@enviousjuno: Pretty sure it was Colonel Mustard.

@lionel-mandrake: While your last sentence makes some sense, to me that mindset rings of high school kids who hide their shitty-drunk friend to keep from getting in trouble; then, when the kid asphixiates (sp?) on his own vomit, the whole story comes out anyway. It's immature and selfish.

@Tammany_Fall: Oh, no doubt, if the end result is that someone dies, then that's a pretty irresponsible reaction to a crisis. I won't say that when I was that age I didn't try and deal with problems like this in the same fashion (i.e. how do we deal with this so that no-one, mainly me, gets in trouble?).

My point is that, neither of them being doctors and neither of them apparently being very bright, they probably didn't realize how serious it was for a few minutes.