A few weeks back, Wired told us about how all the bad boys at Vice want to be taken seriously now that they've got a bunch of Viacom money to build their mostly unwatched Vice TV (oh, we're sorry, "VBS.tv," because they wouldn't want it to be too associated with their immature lifestyle mag) website, so they've driven off co-founder and provocateur Gavin McInnes and report from Iraq and stuff. And today the New York Times reports that those Vice bad boys are all much more mature now and taking on serious issues in their immature lifestyle mag and also involved in this crazy VBS.tv venture with Viacom.
And though VBS.tv is still basically a "failure" by some standards—like, by the standard of 'getting people to go to the website and look at the videos and click on the ads'—Viacom is still really excited about it, and they're throwing lots of money at those lovable Vice boys to go do some hard-hitting journalism about drugs and hookers overseas, and also Iraq and stuff because the new Vice cares.
And even though it's all paid for with gigantic media conglomerate money, it's still wild and edgy and raw because they use very small crews and "no lights or makeup." So you know it's real.
A Guerrilla Video Site Meets MTV [NYT]
The Snarky Vice Squad Is Ready To Be Taken Seriously. Seriously. [Wired]
Related: The Serious Issue Of 'Vice'











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Don't.
VBS... isn't that where I can find Frank TV?
Cross pollinate Viacom and VBS programming--can we send Heidi Montag to Chernobyl or Pakistan?
Whatever, VBS actually has some of the most compelling video content on the web right now.
So, you know, suck it.
So the web-site I sent all those teen virgins to wasn't Vacation Bible School television? Uh oh.
@Wrath of Farrakhan: Doesn't much matter. The preacher's kids are always the worst, anyhow.
What's worse: They asked Big Sumner to be paid in Canadian dollars.
@disconotdisco:
So they're all grown up, but still beginning their comments with "Whatever" and ending them with "suck it"?
I guess money doesn't change everything.
My hammy Vice.
Internet TV is so yesterdays next big thing.
@trampoline: Yes, they've grown up to be quite the professional and mature group of young men.
God so much. First of all, this site is horrible to use. Secondly, this magazine has not been interesting since like 2002. C), I wouldn't call Vice "snarky" as much as "juvenile" or "the scrawling of holier-than-thou assholes." Finally, shouldn't a "mainstream" effort from Vice explode in a cum-and-headband-flavored logical paradox?
Vice is nice!(?)
@disconotdisco: for example?
I watched a four-part [4?!] mope-around with Richard Prince in his hometown in BF Upstate Somewhere, the highlight of which was that he likes to order chips with his lunch at the restaurant that constitutes the entire town [which is only open Th-Su, btw].
Please stop. too. compelling.
Reporting from Iraq. What a bunch of assholes.
I'm not watching VBS until I see Eddie Moretti (bearded Charlie Rose wannabe) get beheaded for his hard hitting questions to Al-Queda members.
@ you guys
First of all, there is a grand literary tradition of the phrase "suck it." In fact, some people have speculated that it "suck it" was the precursor to the modern day interrobang.
Alls I'm saying is that it's rare to find a single media outlet that will let Richard Prince mope around upstate New York, feature nubile porn starlets pontificating on why they do bondage, and travel to an arms market in Pakistan all in the same week.
I heard that Dostoevsky like actually wrote for Penthouse Letters before he wrote that other book, um, Standing in Line for Bread in a Sad Yellow Existentialist Room Under the Stairs.
so, now that they're classy, will grandma be getting a pearl necklace instead of a golden shower??
Also: Disney hires Goofy to anchor the world news. He is much more mature now (since 9/11). And no makeup, lights or any other production expenses in wages and products needed.
This has all the elements of great journalism.
A shocking and painful realization:
"The world is much bigger than the Lower East Side and the East Village," Mr. Alvi said.
Followed by a shot at redemption:
"They gave me a pitch of '60 Minutes'-meets-'Jackass,'" said Jeff Yapp...
At least Vice can say they're still proving how stupid big-media is.
i did like the arms market piece...
"some of the most compelling video content on the web right now"
Wait, let me stop laughing first...
What does "edgy" mean when it's in the same story as "Viacom?" Maybe it's wild, edgy and raw, with small crews and no lights, but what's really exciting to the old fart who owns Viacom is not that "it's real" but that it's non-union.
I can't wait for Kurt Loder to file his first report.
You know, as fun as it is to bash Vice and the Times for doing ANOTHER "Well I guess the Vice Boys are all grown up now" piece, these postings about the sad state of said magazine just always just makes me feel really old.
Especially since now they give me Vice issues with my medication, and story time is just a description of the Gross Jar.
@artynimue1: WONDER SHOWZEN is my favorite edgy AND non-union show which somehow snuck onto a Viacom-owned channel. And then got canceled. But TWO seasons. Not bad!
I'm sure when they were doing coke at Max Fish with under age models when a light popped into their heads "Dudes! we should totally take advantage of the web eh?"
How to settle the Gawker-Vice rivalry once and for all: wrestling match between a Russian prostitute and Josh's midtown hooker.
"Dear God. Please let VBgo the way of 'Office Pirates, thanks so much"
Now that they have booted the humrous troublemaker out hopefully they get big enough to be victims of Gawker Stalkers, so there will be something funny written about Vice somewhere.
some vbs gems:
Toxic Brooklyn, Toxic Alberta, Jay Reatard, the Kanye interview, Epicly Later'd and Do's and Don'ts with Jay McCarroll.
I can't stand the bullshit like anyone else but lets take things on their own merit.
@disconotdisco: The open registration backlash. Next, it'll be all racist posts. Really lookin' forward to it!
I met with the 2 heads of VBS a couple of times. Once was enough…but I went back once more. They tried to sell me on doing a project with them until I realized they were mostly talking about themselves and unbelievably arrogant ... they should film themselves pitching their ideas and call it "Epically Out of Touch". They mentioned how they are "the shit" so much my bullshit detector burst into flames.
I recommend this: Cut out their photos from any fluff piece you read, tuck it in your "eeewww locket" and when you see them ... make like A Flock of Seagulls # 1 hit!
@Carol Gardens: Mine is "Acceptable TV." but it doesn't look like it's gonna get a second season. :-(
@disconotdisco: Whatever, also, have you tried Yogen Fruz? Cuz it's actually got some of the most compelling flavors your tastebuds could enjoy.
So, you know, eat it.
@Carol Gardens: Wonder Showzen actually reminds me a lot of Euro MTV (Flux?). The promos they were running last time I was in Italy (2005) were hilarious and so, so filthy.
Everything is Emasculated by Molly Lambert We get a lot of searches for Kristen Bell, so I thought it would be smart to post this picture of Veronica Mars covered in blood. We luvvvv Kristen Bell here at This Recording.
@everythingisthebestever: You hit it on the head. They are unbelievably arrogant, and/or they were coked out.
"immature" or no, gavin was the only good thing about that magazine, and now he's gone. oh and it looks like the eXile (an actually good, immature magazine), is getting shutdown, so now theres nothing
tvcarnage and streetboners doesnt exactly pick up the slack
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