@Alexis: Perhaps you should calm down first.
This I agree with, but it seems like the only way I can do that is to simply start reading these threads.
@Alexis: Your definition of kicking people out is totally fucked up. If there is one thing that's getting to me these days on Gawker it's these attempts to make everything relative. Moving into a neighborhood is NOT the same thing as kicking someone out of it, and is most certainly NOT a bases for being called a pest.
@Alexis: It was NOT the gays whining for being displaced, it was about straights whining for the gays who left! Read it again!
@Alexis: They kick people out? Please give me your definition of "kicking people out". And please make it good, since as an ethnic Serb, I know a thing or two about being accused of kicking people out.
@mrbrownthumb: A number of comments in this thread and the one it was spawned from reek of xenophobia. If I made an ass out of myself while exposing it, so be it. You can't call an entire group of people locusts based on nothing else but the fact that they bought and rented property in your neighborhood and moved into it. Fuck that shit.
@tunamelt: Being anti-gentrification doesn't equate homophobia.
True, but calling gays locusts does not equal being anti-gentrification.
@badasscat: I define ghetto as a public housing neighborhood populated by people who mostly live on welfare. Next step up from that is a working class neighborhood, populated by people who pay their own rent, but who don't have much disposable income for going out or shopping. Then, we have middle class neighborhoods and here is where "choice of lifestyle" kicks in when people decide where they want to live based on what the hood has to offer for it.
I think it goes without saying that if you are on welfare or of working class that your life is going to suck and you are going to get screwed no matter what. That's just the reality of living in America, and you can't blame it on middle class. So, when middle class starts discussing the ways of living in one of their hoods, for you to come and say "hey, wait a minute, that used to be our hood" is senseless, because it really doesn't matter who used to live where and who lives where now, lower classes are always going to get the shitty end of the deal in this country. Moving around is just the reality of this society. It's how this country came into the existence in the first place.
You're the same person as the Yuppies you despise that come in and take your neighborhood.
Where did all these people see any "despising" of any "yuppies" in that post? I read it, and understood it was directed at straight people who like to live in a gay neighborhood, but later become disappointed when the gays leave.
It was just a friendly message on how to live together since that's what we (I count myself among the people whom it was addressed to), and NOT a protest against anyone moving to their hood.
@tunamelt: Hail to the homophobes. Fucking awesome. Also, props to Italians who hate on blacks, the blacks who hate on the Irish, the Irish who hate on Jews, right?
@saralovesyou: Saying that you have no right to claim the significance of being there first when it comes to attracting me, is NOT the same thing as saying that attracting me should be your goal. Christ.
Locusts
It's like the Olympics of ignorance, and this one deserves a fucking Gold Medal.
@saralovesyou: Where did you read anything about any "rights to history"? Where did I say that attracting should be a goal?
@Simply Divine: And the internet expunges bits of itself every time.
I imagine it works out something like trying to stomp on the rays of sunshine.
@BeefFajitas: You're very self-absoarbed in your own culture, if you think that way.
You have no fucking idea what I said, do you? Fine. I give up.
You can't exactly have the internet expunged.
And you can't exactly stop feeding it either, looks like.
@BeefFajitas: Here is what you don't understand: in your Detroit analogy, nobody makes anything fabulous or cool. It's not about bringing money, it's about making it inviting to everyone. Neighborhoods which are merely wealthy can be as uninviting as ghettos (in a different way, but still). Gays do one thing better than others: they make it inviting for all others, and this is why they have more need than others to set some rules for the party.
@jsdoherty3: hey, there are endless sub-sets of straight, white men.
Such as... the ignorant fools who have no idea that this country just went through decades of trying to establish that endless subsets is not something only straight, white men have?
@BeefFajitas: Do you have any idea what are we even talking about? We are talking about people wanting to move to a neighborhood because it's cool. Therefore, the people who made it cool are the ones that have the right (and more importantly - the competence!) to discuss how do we keep it cool. What the fuck are you talking about, I have no idea, but I imagine you'd want to go back to the Manhattan purchase from Native Americans or some shit like that, which may be fine, but is completely off topic.
@saralovesyou: Excuse me, but making things fabulous is what counts in my book. I'm not saying that (white) gays are the only people who do it, but whoever does it is who gets the credit. If you can't attract me to your neighborhood, what right do you have to claim the significance of your being there before once I do come?
@George Woods: As a straight, white, male...I am just mad that we don't get any
Sorry, I stopped reading right there.
