The Barney Frank sex ring scandal is the far right's new Chappaquiddick, an old stale scandal trotted out to ad hominem disparage any ideas the guy has. Only nobody even died in Barney Frank's apartment.
What O'Reilly did to Frank in the first interview was vicious and I believe staged. He did express his regret afterward. I have a lot of respect for Frank coming back on the show. I think it speaks to his character as a congressman that he is willing to discuss his viewpoints for an audience that are not really fans of his.
Having said that, he can try to shuffle the sub-prime lending blame around all that he wants, but people need to know the facts about his complicity. This was discussed about a week ago in this post:
Frank was part of the opposition to the following bills:
S.1508 Federal Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2003. If you read through the summary, you will see that "minimum and critical capital levels" are addressed. The Republicans didn't have a filibuster proof majority so the bill died on the floor. [www.govtrack.us]
See also, S. 190. Federal Housing Regulatory Reform Act of 2005. [www.govtrack.us]
These were both bills were introduced by Elizabeth Dole and Chuck Hagel. The first one was co-introduced by Sununu.
The actual death nell to these bills occurred in the Senate, but Frank was very vocal that the reason that he didn't want to tighten the restrictions when they needed to be tightened was because he didn't want homebuyers to be disqualified.
I haven't looked into all of the implications of this condo rule, but it stands to reason that they don't want to guarantee loans in a building where the lack of demand for the condos pushes the prices down. That sounds reasonable, but I can see his point about discouraging purchasers. I kind of think living in a big empty building would be appealing.
I respect Frank as a veteran statesman, but his hands are as bloody as anyone else's when it comes to the sub-prime lending crisis that helped with this meltdown.
It's also ironic that Dole and Sununu probably lost their seats because the Republicans were blamed in large part for the economic meltdown. At least they can sleep at night for having tried.
@doggotmyshoes: I think Barney works his ass off to do what he thinks is the right thing for his country. Just because I think he is wrong almost all of the time, doesn't mean that I can't respect that. I was wondering if I should put a "just joking" caveat on that other post. I'm not gay, but I'm definitely not a homophobe. Well, not since I learned grooming from watching Queer Eye for the Straight Guy a few years back. Now I have a close shave and I'm tolerant.
@ChillbearLatrigue: You seem like a alright guy but have you any idea how much we gays rankle when someone like you pats himself on the back because he tolerates us? Honestly, do you write comments like this just to be provocative?
@phlox✔: I actually didn't know what the correct term was. I don't mean it like that. I actually don't care about a persons sexual orientation at all. So "tolerant" isn't exactly an apt term. I just that was the word of our time. Pardon the ignorance.
If you could give me a better word to use for someone that just thinks that people should be able to live their lives without people tagging them based on one characteristic like skin or sexual orientation, I will use that going forward.
Honestly, I didn't mean to offend and I am sorry that I did. LP, if you're reading this, please, don't kill me.
@ChillbearLatrigue: Elizabeth Dole could only sleep well at night if she found a way to roll back those last four or five facelifts. I fear the poor dear may not be able to close her eyes anymore.
While we're championing Mrs. Dole and her devotion to the American people, I might remind you of her attempt to name an AIDS relief bill after Jesse fucking Helms. She lost her Senate seat because she played a hackneyed game of Rovian politics and it blew up in her taut, wretched face.
@ChillbearLatrigue: My favourite T-shirt slogan from last year's Pride event: Heteros for Homos. Or, you could always go with the tried and true classic: I'm Straight, But Not Narrow. But if you need something pithy you could just say No Homo. LULZ.
@Private Hangnail: You Pelosicrats have a lot of nerve talking about facelifts, my friend.
You know damn well that the economy was the biggest issue in the 2008 elections. The polls showed that the American people believed that the Democrats could do a better job handling the economy. That is the battle that she lost.
Whatever. You just can't handle the fact that someone is giving your girl a run for her money in the facelift department. I'm challenging you to a Facelift Off.
@Private Hangnail: You handpicked those photos. I want a random sampling of three. I found some horrific photos of Pelosi on Google images that would put that Dole photo to shame. Aside from that I find them both pretty hot. I have very low standards.
@ChillbearLatrigue: Is it wrong that I read that last sentence with John Lovitz narrating? (And now I'm envisioning Nancy Pelosi with 3 roommates who she went to grade school with.)
@ChillbearLatrigue: You can't change the rules just because you don't like the outcome. As for the possibility of banging either of these fine ladies, I'd say go with Pelosi. You may despise her politics, but there's a reason Bob Dole does those Viagra commercials.
@Private Hangnail: Isn't the reason because he's 86? (Warning: what follows is disgusting)
My God, the visual. Bob slipping out of the hot tub and picking up the champagne bucket to carry it into the bedroom. Elizabeth moves her facial features around with her hands to approximate a demure expression. The Clapper's set to dim. Some big band music from the 40's is playing in the background to harken them back to a time when they felt alive. Mirrors on the ceiling to reflect every fissure in every field of skin. Elizabeth almost doesn't notice the red light on the tripod mounted video camera...almost.
@El Matardillo: I was expecting Barney Frank to remind people that he is still the reigning king of political sex scandals. Argentinian lover has nothing on gay sex ring.
@Peoplefamiliarwith: Given that Frank himself was not and never alleged to be a member of the gay sex ring in question, I'd have to disagree. Way to tell part of the story, though.
@Richard Lawson: its like people have no respekt fro privacey any more. If someone hacked into my emails, well i wouldn't tell you what i would do, but i would probably not keep CALM. emailes are just like regular males; they arn't for people accept for the people there for!
@CodePink: i luv the dum libs who r always sayin that privacy is for people but then thye do this!! plus salma is awsom and peeple need 2 learn that, or else their just haters.
@Richard Lawson: for real! she is sooooo pretty, prettyier than Penelopey Cruise by a LONGSHOT! but the point of it all is this. when people are diss-respected on the interNet it is never A GOOD THING!!! and the people who think that is a good things are most likely gay!! because let's face it they are diss-respectful. i'm not saying it's not there right i'm just saying that i dont aprove of it as a person.
@CodePink: go miss California! srsly she stood up 4 what she believes in (and what is right!!) and everyone tried to take her free speach. but i think ur rong that selma is gay shes so pretty plus she has a baby so she cant be gay duh lol.
@Richard Lawson: MY POINT EXACTTLY!!! also, selma being gay, LOL that's not what i meant by it when i said that! you are crackin my sh*it up. OKAY BACK TO TREALITY: what i think is ironic about Mrs. California in the pagent is that hello? everyone said that California was lib than hello Prop Eight got passed which was proof that yes, morals do exist in USA and then Miss California DOUBLEPROOVED IT (an expression of mine) when she said thatthe Bible did't approve. So what can you say to that accept that well. That laws don't matter when were talking abotu WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS RONG!
@CodePink: i bet some1 who is not TOLERANT of prop8 and peoples relgion that hacked tha emaal becuz y else wud u hack some1s emailes unless u didnt have morils!!! but we are mad and not gunna take it anymoar so tbag partees are gona get this country righ.t. first well start wit who hacked these emales.
She has a child fathered by the richest man in the western hemisphere, and those incredible edible chichis? Why the hell does she need any kind of credit card? People should be throwing their goods at her.
I honestly can't think of a celebrity's email account I would want to hack...all I know is that Salma Hayek would be about 143rd on the list, right after Rip Taylor.
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" His partner, Jim Ready, 39, is a surfing enthusiast whom Frank met during a gay political fundraiser in Maine, where Ready still lives"
Jim Ready is a great name, but how active a surfing enthusiast can you be when you live in Maine?
06/25/09
Surfing in Kennebunk, Maine
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You have to be VERY enthusiastic about surfing to be a surfer in Maine.
06/27/09
Very cool.
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Having said that, he can try to shuffle the sub-prime lending blame around all that he wants, but people need to know the facts about his complicity. This was discussed about a week ago in this post:
[gawker.com]
Frank was part of the opposition to the following bills:
S.1508 Federal Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2003. If you read through the summary, you will see that "minimum and critical capital levels" are addressed. The Republicans didn't have a filibuster proof majority so the bill died on the floor. [www.govtrack.us]
See also, S. 190. Federal Housing Regulatory Reform Act of 2005. [www.govtrack.us]
These were both bills were introduced by Elizabeth Dole and Chuck Hagel. The first one was co-introduced by Sununu.
The actual death nell to these bills occurred in the Senate, but Frank was very vocal that the reason that he didn't want to tighten the restrictions when they needed to be tightened was because he didn't want homebuyers to be disqualified.
I haven't looked into all of the implications of this condo rule, but it stands to reason that they don't want to guarantee loans in a building where the lack of demand for the condos pushes the prices down. That sounds reasonable, but I can see his point about discouraging purchasers. I kind of think living in a big empty building would be appealing.
I respect Frank as a veteran statesman, but his hands are as bloody as anyone else's when it comes to the sub-prime lending crisis that helped with this meltdown.
It's also ironic that Dole and Sununu probably lost their seats because the Republicans were blamed in large part for the economic meltdown. At least they can sleep at night for having tried.
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Honestly, do you write comments like this just to be provocative?
06/24/09
If you could give me a better word to use for someone that just thinks that people should be able to live their lives without people tagging them based on one characteristic like skin or sexual orientation, I will use that going forward.
Honestly, I didn't mean to offend and I am sorry that I did. LP, if you're reading this, please, don't kill me.
06/25/09
While we're championing Mrs. Dole and her devotion to the American people, I might remind you of her attempt to name an AIDS relief bill after Jesse fucking Helms. She lost her Senate seat because she played a hackneyed game of Rovian politics and it blew up in her taut, wretched face.
06/25/09
Heteros for Homos.
Or, you could always go with the tried and true classic: I'm Straight, But Not Narrow.
But if you need something pithy you could just say No Homo. LULZ.
06/25/09
You know damn well that the economy was the biggest issue in the 2008 elections. The polls showed that the American people believed that the Democrats could do a better job handling the economy. That is the battle that she lost.
Whatever. You just can't handle the fact that someone is giving your girl a run for her money in the facelift department. I'm challenging you to a Facelift Off.
06/25/09
Yeah, that just hurt my head too.
06/25/09
Dole:

Pelosi:

Now, you tell me: who has a better surgeon? Also, I win.
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You totally win, but that pic of Liddy Dole makes me kind of sad.
They're both over 70 though. So...
Go Olds!
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My God, the visual. Bob slipping out of the hot tub and picking up the champagne bucket to carry it into the bedroom. Elizabeth moves her facial features around with her hands to approximate a demure expression. The Clapper's set to dim. Some big band music from the 40's is playing in the background to harken them back to a time when they felt alive. Mirrors on the ceiling to reflect every fissure in every field of skin. Elizabeth almost doesn't notice the red light on the tripod mounted video camera...almost.
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Not to get all 4chan here, but this is utterly win.
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Cool she's pals with Charo- even helping her get a discount for a creepy cult!
[skepdic.com]
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