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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    Giuliani Camp Denies Senate Report, says Politico.

    [www.politico.com]
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    11/19/09

    @oudemia: I think there's a rule that you can only fake-run for an office once. So that leaves out the Senate, President and now Governor. Up next to keep the chatterati chattering: a feint for Manhattan Borough President!
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    11/19/09

    @daveyjonesisdead: Staten Island Bourough President maybe.
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    11/19/09

    @kneetoe: On a secession platform! Yes! "This island is, and of a right ought to be, a free, independent nation, federated with the autonomous Republics of the Jersey Shore and the Duchy of Bensonhurst...."
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    11/19/09

    @daveyjonesisdead: Ha! Love the federation idea. And hey, the Rock was ready to go, but they got screwed by Albany (join the crowd, SIers) on the Home Rule determination. Bensonhurst has achieved independence in a more informal way. The Jersey Shore I don't know enough about.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    It could be a combination of all those things. But I don't think it's surprising that he wouldn't run - he was only tempted by Paterson's weakness. The man has no interest in any kind of competitive or difficult election - he only wanted a cakewalk (as Paterson would have been). He is not remotely in the mix for the 2012 presidential nomination, has no interest in actually governing NY State (though, thanks to term limits being extended, he could run for mayor in 2013, god help us all), and can't handle another embarrassing loss. Kornacki had a good piece on Rudy's options in the Observer.
    [www.observer.com]

    Oh also - Kerik's conviction doesn't exactly remove the political liability for Rudy. The guy was his choice for Sec. of Homeland Security and his longtime business partner.
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    11/19/09

    @Peter Feld: Without term limits being extended, couldn't he have run again this time? I find it hard to believe that he would want to be Mayor again, nor do I think he would have much chance at winning that election.
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    11/19/09

    @kneetoe: You're right, he could have - but he wouldn't have challenged Bloomberg (for whom the term limits were lifted). I think he likes being the sheriff in this town and if he thought the field was weak in four years, he could be tempted by the idea of a comeback. As to whether he'd win, I suspect you are right but don't want to underestimate his loyal following.

    #tips
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    Didn't an entire Payless clatter to the counter when he was in office already?
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    I think you overlooked the most obvious reason of all:

    Rudy's lovely bride Judi Ann "Judith" Stish Giuliani is not ready to give up her dream of becoming the First Lady of the United States of America in 2012.

    But is America ready to embrace a first lady who is twice divorced? Or will Ms. Giuliani go down in disgrace like a certain Wallis Simpson who was also twice divorced.
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    11/19/09

    @Zira: promoted simply for mentioning wallace simpson.
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    11/19/09

    @BaconCat: wallis! Dammit.
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    11/19/09

    @BaconCat:

    Wallis Simpson is most famous for once saying that you can "never be too rich or too thin" but my favorite Wallis Simpson quote is:

    "Fill what's empty, empty what's full, and scratch where it itches."

    I live by that motto.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    Umm, because the election isn't being held on 9/11, the only date he knows?
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    11/19/09

    @BaconCat: Zing! & Touche!
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    11/19/09

    @BaconCat: I'm with you on that one. I'm so sick of hearing him and other people talk about how great he was after 9/11. What was he going to do, run away? He did what any other mayor of a big city would do in the same situation. And let's not forget the fact that he let workers in Ground Zero when he knew it wasn't safe, and now a lot of people are paying the price with serious health problems. Personally I'll never forgive him for "cleaning up" Times Square. I prefer the Times Square of the '70s - hookers, peep shows, junkies and drugs to what's there now. Toys R Us, Virgin, TGI Fridays? WTF??
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    11/19/09

    @fuckingoldman: Well, if you ask a lot of firemen they consider him the 20th hijacker because he ushed for motorola to win the new walkie-talkie contract after they contributed 150,000 bucks to his campaign. Only one problem with that:

    The fire department told old Rudy that the motorolas didn't work inside buildings and that had been a problem in the first attack on WTC. So a whole shitload of firement never heard the command to get out of the second tower. How he sleeps at night, I'll never know. The man deserves nothing short of hot coals up the ass.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    Who is Chris Cuomo?

    Edit: Nevermind, now I know he's the anchor on Good Morning America. Yeah, I can see why Giuliani wouldn't want to go up against him in an election.
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    Edited by badasscat at 11/19/09 3:21 PM badasscat was starred badasscat was unstarred
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    11/19/09

    @badasscat: Family name recognition - what also got GW2 elected.
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    11/19/09

    @Lysergic Asset:

    I think he meant Andrew Cuomo. Chris is the good looking one. He has no interest in politics--just chasing tail.
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    11/19/09

    @Zira: That confused me, too - I thought Andrew was the politician. Thx.

    #tips
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    Except for the Florida primary, he hasn't run for office since, what, 1997? He just doesn't have the fire in his belly to actually do electioneering.
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    11/19/09

    @daveyjonesisdead: which is why he should run in florida. no one north of the mason-dixon line would vote for him.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    He finally realized that his strategy to campaign only in Florida for the governorship was bound to fail.
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    11/19/09

    @jbwan: ha!
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    That image is scary. It looks like the Robert Zemeckis performance-capture Rudy.
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    Couldn't it be something on the home front? Such as another affair that's about to appear in the Daily News, resulting in yet another divorce?
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Why Won't Rudy Run for Governor? [Updated: Because He's Running For Senate]
    Maybe PETA is more influential than anyone realized?

    [cityfile.com]
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    11/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Preview: GOP to Be Teabagged
    Was DeVore in rehab or something when Bush springboarded the Patriot Act off the back of 9/11?

    Yeah, let's go with rehab. #2010
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    11/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Preview: GOP to Be Teabagged
    I think Matt Fong in 1998 was a half legit challenge to Boxer. She ended up winning by something like 10 points, but I remember some Boxer supporters being at least a little nervous in the weeks before the election. Bill Jones, on the other hand.... #2010
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    11/09/09

    In reply to 2010 Preview: GOP to Be Teabagged
    The big problem for both parties is balkanization. There aren't very many reliable voting blocks any more, and candidates on both sides have shown they're willing to do almost anything necessary to get those blocks "locked up."

    That being said, I think the increasing prevalence of "purity tests" among the Republicans and the lack of a coherent party message will ensure that they continue to marginalize themselves. Bill Buckley's characterization of conservatism as a force standing astride history shouting "stop" is frighteningly correct, and right now it feels like the whole Republican party is just yelling "STOP." That's not a party slogan, but the reds are working hard to make it one. #2010
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Introducing the David Paterson 2010 Campaign
    Just remember, the alternative to Patterson is the one guy in Albany who is less likable than Spitzer, Andrew Cuomo, so get out your checkbooks and support this guy. It's just too bad Patterson isn't really, really fat. #davidpaterson
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