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Valerie Flame
11/09/09

Sat. 11/7 8:30 pm Kenneth getting on the downtown 2 train @ W 72nd St. On his way to the Chuckle Hut?

#stalker #jackmcbrayer #subway #30rock
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CumaeanSibyl
11/07/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
Saying someone is gay officially counts as outing now? Isn't there a little more to it than that? #30rock
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SuperBien
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
This was a pretty funny scene in last night's episode. However, the one that sent me into convulsions laughing was Kathy Geiss channeling Britain's Got Talent sensation Susan Boyle at the auditions. Hysterical! #30rock
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TheGintheCity
11/06/09

@SuperBien: Oh my god, I rewound and re-watched that whole sequence twice. The swoony looks on Jack and Liz's faces killed. #30rock
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freakshowtime
11/06/09

@SuperBien: That was fucking hilarious! I was wondering "why'd they bring her back?", and boy was I pleased to know why. #30rock
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ShanghaiLil
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
By the way, is it wrong that I'm finally proud to be currently living in Stone Mountain, GA? Seriously! #30rock
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DannyOcean
11/06/09

@ShanghaiLil: Stone Mountain is really cool. I'm just up the road in Gwinnett county and I go to hike there at least once a year. #30rock
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ShanghaiLil
11/06/09

@DannyOcean: Yeah, I had a chuckle over that episode... #30rock
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BlueBeard
11/07/09

@ShanghaiLil: You had a pig taint? Fried or sauteed? #30rock
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ShanghaiLil
11/07/09

@BlueBeard: In Georgia? Deep-fried, naturally. #30rock
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rmacy
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
Sorry, I missed the memo: the gays liking someone automatically makes them gay? #30rock
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ShanghaiLil
11/06/09

@rmacy: Well, that, and the fact that...he's gay. #30rock
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ShanghaiLil
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
At this point, is that even possible? #30rock
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jbwan
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
didn't last year's Oscars already take care of this? #30rock
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Nick Denton
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
Queerty had a pretty good piece on the reasons why Hugh Jackman widely thought gay. Main argument: his wife is 14 years older. (Though by that standard, Demi Moore should be Ashton Kutcher's beard.)

And Defamer identified the John thanked in the Australian actor's Emmy acceptance speech in 2005: he's Jackman's longtime assistant and business partner John Palermo.

[www.queerty.com]

[defamer.gawker.com] #30rock
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Heneage
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: I think he's gay because I saw him at the Kylie Minogue concert a few weeks ago. There was not a straight man within 20 blocks of the Hammerstein Ballroom that evening. #30rock
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Freddie DeBoer
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: As long as people who are ostensibly supportive of gay rights, whether they are straight or gay, continue to treat homosexuality as if it's some secret crime to be discovered, they are exacerbating the perception of homosexuality as sinful and otherized.

The gay rights movement remains positive as long as it's a movement of liberation, and it is only a movement of liberation as long as it allows people to self-identify. #30rock
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ArmCandy
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: That longtime assistant and business partner also lives in Hugh's house. [www.eonline.com] #30rock
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manchops
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: and palermo is hot as hell #30rock
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Island of Misfit Toys
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: The article that this post links to states that Hugh Jackman and his business partner wear matching rings. #30rock
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Victor Ward
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: Common law assistant? #30rock
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psybab
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: also, aren't both his kids adopted? #30rock
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intime
11/06/09

@Nick Denton: Hey, what's wrong with hot men having older women???? #30rock
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Ryan Tate
11/06/09

@ArmCandy: It actually says he lived on Jackman's property, in a bungalow. Definitely still noteworthy, though.

Also interesting, from that link: Jackman wears a band from Palermo "opposite his wife's wedding band: 'It was given to me by John when we started our production company,' revealed H.J. 'In Sanskrit is written the basic principles of our company.'"

Oh, looks like Island got there first re the ring...
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TriedandTrue
11/06/09

@Ryan Tate: One ring to bind them all? #30rock
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maude_flanders
11/06/09

@Freddie DeBoer: I agree with what he said--it's hateful. He's not an asshole and he's not homophobic. If he's gay...probably the only person who has legitimate cause to upset is his wife (and, I suppose his kids, but his being gay doesn't change the sort of father he is...might change how asshole kids and their asshole parents might regard the family though, which is unfortunate).

That said...I think part of the joke is that Hugh Jackman is gay (based on what, that he can do musicals? Good for him), won't admit it, and therefore deserves scorn because he's hiding something.

It isn't that being gay itself is shameful (right), it's that people don't announce it as soon as someone demands to know about their private life, won't attempt to denounce or admit to rumors regarding that person's secrecy, their supposed effeminacy, etc.

I mean, hell, why should they be afraid or want to keep it under wraps? God knows, Hollywood and the voting/movie-going public couldn't care less, right?

If you're a sex symbol or famous, apparently the public (or at least, the entertainment/tabloid press) should have full access to your sex life if it wants to. Unless you're committing a crime or you're a hypocrite (plenty of right-wing assholes)....it shouldn't be. #30rock
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NotChoinski
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
I can see the porno now: "Huge Jack-Men" #30rock
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heywhat
11/06/09

@NotChoinski: Hugh Jack-me-off. #30rock
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ginger rant
11/06/09

@heywhat: @NotChoinski: Jack from Will and Grace beat you by a half-dozen years or so with his admiration for the man's "huge ackman." #30rock
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Airvault
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
A real-world example of this will be James Franco's appearance at the Castro Theatre next week. #30rock
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teknowaffle
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
In other news, what the fuck was with that Cisco thing. They were mocking product placement for sure, but were still promoting a product blatantly. #30rock
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esmemurphy
11/06/09

@teknowaffle: I sort of thought it was a commentary on how ubiquitous Cisco is at the moment. They are currently making acquisitions like crazy and seem to have their fingers in lots and lots of pots (including media stuff). So I took it as a nerdy, insidery joke, I guess. But maybe I'm wrong. #30rock
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Baroness
11/06/09

@esmemurphy: They ran an ad with Ellen Page featuring the teleconferencing system minutes before it appeared on the show. It was def. a McFlurry moment.

God, that thing was butt-uglee in Jack's office. #30rock
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Magister
11/06/09

@teknowaffle: I've yet to watch the episode, but it seems to me that 30 Rock has always done snarky, back-handed product placement.

It's part of their "cool". #30rock
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esmemurphy
11/06/09

@Baroness: I missed that. Foiled by my TiVo! At least they are clever about it. And I love the show so they've got me over a barrel. I'll take the McFlurry moments over almost anything else on the tube these days.
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Fuzzy Dunlop
11/06/09

@teknowaffle: I believe the writers' thinking is that if they have to do a product placement, they want to go so over-the-top that the audience knows the writers are aware of how ridiculous it is. Make a joke about it that the audience can appreciate, rather than lamely try to integrate it into the show when the audience will be fully aware of what's really going on. #30rock
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NorthernLite
11/06/09

@Fuzzy Dunlop: At one point as Jack/Alec is heaping praise on Cisco he puts an exclamation on the sentence with a furious scratch of his bed-bug bites. It's hilarious. The juxtaposition of the two things - plus the fact that the whole bit is OTT and turns viewers off actually doesn't do the company any favors. And I'm sure is quite deliberate.

But what do I know, I'm represented by the B+ Talent Agency. #30rock
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abettertomorrow
11/06/09

@Fuzzy Dunlop: but what other show out there has 3 minute commercials built in? Ultimately they are just paid ads, and I'm not sure just yelling the name of the brand and looking directly into the camera is that 'cool' or 'ironic' anymore... #30rock
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Magister
11/06/09

@abettertomorrow: I don't know that they've gotten to three minutes, but The Office may have come close.

And, one of the commonalities between these two shows are that they're immensely popular online. Personally, I watch both each week, but I only get to see them maybe once live each season and the rest of the time, it's from my Hulu queue.

An inline product placement wouldn't only get those who TIVO through the commercials, but it also enables them to monetize every eyeball; They can charge for those watching live, those via a DVR, Hulu (embedded and onsite), iTunes and even post-season DVD sales, so I wouldn't expect it to go anywhere, anytime soon.

After all, if memory serves, the very first episode of 30 Rock heavily promoted some kind of magical microwave from GE.
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A Message To Rudy
11/06/09

@Magister: And that was sort of the opposite of product placement in that the product was inserted in a "commercial" during the show but didn't really exist. #30rock
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Magister
11/06/09

@A Message To Rudy: I did not realize the commercial was engineered to support the joke. I had always assumed that it was the other way around. #30rock
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A Message To Rudy
11/06/09

@Magister: That's what made it hilarous. They talked about this absurd product during the show (wish I could remember exactly what made it absurd) and then up pops this "commercial" for the product during a regular commercial break. #30rock
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abettertomorrow
11/06/09

@A Message To Rudy: but the GE Trivection oven is a real product, and that was a real 30-second spot:

[www.geappliances.com] #30rock
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AzureTexan
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
In all fairness, it might have been his lesser-known but more flamboyant identical twin, Lugh Jackman. #30rock
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manchops
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
You left one thing off your list of why the gays love the Jack: The Australia card. It's kinda the real-life OZ for gay men. Convicts, cowboys, new wave and crazy sex. #30rock
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Sir Winston Thriller
11/06/09

@manchops: Oh. You mean like the a summer at the Russian River in California. #30rock
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harlows.landing
11/06/09

@manchops: And then there's his starring role in a couple of Bryan Singer action movies about being part of an awesomely-superpowered but persecuted minority. #30rock
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psybab
11/06/09

@harlows.landing: Not to mention his leading role in a Baz Lurhman production where he plays a rough-and-tumble leather-clad man whose romantic interest is the world's most famous beard. There's a reason why Aronofsky felt comfortable filming a sex scene between Jackman and his wife. #30rock
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Sir Winston Thriller
11/06/09

In reply to Did 30 Rock Out Hugh Jackman?
If it was 45 years ago, replace Hugh Jackman with Judy Garland. We know what a big MARY she was. #30rock
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onebadclam
10/30/09

In reply to This Is How Tracy Morgan Likes to Be Paddled
Dude, I know the hat is your "thing" but it is time to move on.
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