Rates of sexually transmitted diseases are identical among teens who say they've never been sexually active and those who say they have been. #abstinence
Social conservatives constantly scapegoat single mothers even while their own social and political agendas increase teenage pregnancy. They're not morons; they're oxymorons.
Has the media really devolved into a platform for two poorly educated teens to fight with each other? People, this is why America is in the shitter. We are fucked.
@FaceMelter: I keep getting the feeling that this is a huge trial run to see if Levi, Bristol and the baby (Tang? Dowel?) would be popular contestants on Big Brother XIX, or whatever season is incipient.
Aw, Bristol was almost a real person and not a complete political pawn. Now they went and ruined it with that crazy talkin, jibberish, her mother is so famous for.
She could have gone to college and learned about the world. Now she'll be some sort of virginal conception pariah of astronomical ridiculousness.
Well, really, supporting an abstinence and motherhood is a pretty good position. It's saying "Hey kids, don't have kids" while getting behind them if they do. Teen motherhood is not some universally bad thing like crack addiction rates or something, and it's not solely an expression of povery/desperation.
You can have that position and a pro-abortion stance. It's all about choice, and being a nurturing society instead of condemning kids for uniting their bits.
@ADismalScience: I tend to agree. However, the problem I see is that currently, abstinence is being pushed as the only real choice in a near vacuum of competing viewpoints and information. At the very least, kids need to know about birth control and the risks associated with various sexual activities so that they can make informed choices.
@ADismalScience: Seems like yours is a more libertarian position whereas the Palins take a more conservative position. If you're going to support abstinence and motherhood, you need to support birth control for teens and ways for teenage girls to feel successful be socially accepted without having children. ( some teens do it as a way to get attention). Since Palin's family, the anti choice movement they are part of, and the party they shill for have been against the last two since forever - cutting usable real world teen sex ed and federal funding for education and school programs - I'm not so down with this.
@jrhys: The problem is that the conservative position denies the reality that people do have sex. I'm all for teen abstinence too...but also in educating my kids about their other choices, and how to protect themselves should they choose HOT LEVI SEX.
@ADismalScience: I'd have a hard time supporting the idea that teen motherhood is a good thing, or even a neutral thing, which are the choices if it's not a bad thing. I don't want my son knocking some chick up before the two of them are ready to take responsibility for the consequences. Shorn of its hypocrisy, that's the abstinence position.
That said, there will be many talks in my household starting in a few years (he's five, so i think it's still a bit soon), and there will be no-questions-asked birth control provided to him. Hopefully i won't become the purveyor of condoms to his social set, but i suppose if it's that or early grand-fatherhood, i'll cope with it.
@whoneedslight: Being a single mom, it's not like she'll have the time or the energy for a while, anyway. But really, that bell has been rung. Why worry, now?
@Our Lady of the Massacre: or anywhere in the lower 48 for that matter. We have Alaska for the same reason the British used Australia (or did we decide that was Florida?).
I feel like my IQ drops 10 points every time I listen to Levi speak. Bristol is only marginally more articulate. They both need to go away. If they really want to send a message advocating abstinence, both families should boot their kids out of the house, cut them off financially, and force them to live together and support themselves while trying to care for a newborn.
@bluebears: I wish Bristol would just own up to it, admit she is a big old slut and do the speech that Elizabeth Taylor said at the end of "Butterfield 8":
"That man taught me more about evil in a week than I'd have learned in a year at a brothel ... and I LOVED it. I LOVED IT!!"
@BookishLookish: I can think of other things some comments want to put in his mouth that would be equally effective. I was shocked to learn the other day that Mr. Hydroceph wanted to do him. Me, i don't get the attraction, but whatevs.
@BookishLookish: well, it's come as something of a surprise, if only because i don't like to contemplate what it says about me (it's all about me, isn't it?). That is, over the years we've been together, most of the men who turn my head resemble Mr. Hydroceph to some degree. So is that what he thinks of me?
This has been your daily dose of Christian "Do As I Say, Not As I Do." Tomorrow, our guests will be that father and son from the 80s "I learned it by watching you!" PSA.
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She could have gone to college and learned about the world. Now she'll be some sort of virginal conception pariah of astronomical ridiculousness.
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You can have that position and a pro-abortion stance. It's all about choice, and being a nurturing society instead of condemning kids for uniting their bits.
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That said, there will be many talks in my household starting in a few years (he's five, so i think it's still a bit soon), and there will be no-questions-asked birth control provided to him. Hopefully i won't become the purveyor of condoms to his social set, but i suppose if it's that or early grand-fatherhood, i'll cope with it.
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