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    Image of ArtfulSlinger ArtfulSlinger
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    Why isn't the group getting upset at the assholes who so excitedly signed up for this shit shack? Is is MTV's fault there is an entire group of people who dye their bodies orange, look up to the Gotti boys for style advice and think Jaegerbombs are da bomb? No! Im from LI, so this is more than familiar territory to me, but the fact these people lack enough awareness and irony is no fault but their own. Now, lets sit back and watch.
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    Image of VioletViolet VioletViolet
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    I recently lived in a very Irish neighborhood in the Bronx where there was an immigration center and a lot of just-off-the-boat Irish people. Almost every other building was a pub. On the other hand, the only time I'd ever seen it get violent was when I was in a pub where they were broadcasting a boxing match with some famous Irish boxer and at the same time, a fight broke out. But that could happen at any bar. My brother got mugged once, but it was by two Albanians.

    My point is, as an Irish-American, I don't care about the Fighting Irish stereotypes because I know that there is some truth and that what isn't (or is no longer) true isn't worth protesting. And especially since The Departed came out, a lot of Irish-Americans even embrace those stereotypes, thinking it makes them look badass. For every Italian-American offended by the Godfather or the Sopranos or Real Housewives of New Jersey, there are even more who love that shit, like it gives them some power. Just live with it. That's what the Irish have done and that's what a lot of Jewish comedians have built their acts on. By embracing or even just tolerating the stereotypes, you reduce their power.
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    Image of Steverino Begins Steverino Begins
    11/25/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert Is Not Sorry About His AMA Performance
    FUCK YOU, CBS for blurring out the gay kiss in that clip.
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    Image of The Real JR The Real JR
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    And, I'm sorry, But Real Housewives of New Jersey opened the door way open for all this.

    It was the "Prostitution Whoo-rah!" heard around the world.
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    Edited by The Real JR at 11/25/09 11:48 AM The Real JR was starred The Real JR was unstarred
    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    Everyone has someone in their family that embarrasses the ferg out of their people, as a whole. (If you can't think of anyone, then it's probably you.)

    The answer may be to raise your kids not to turn into whatever douche-royale is depicted on the screen. Let it be a lesson to you, and stop the madness! It’s a PSA really.
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    Image of The Real JR The Real JR
    11/25/09

    @Spirit Fingers: Everyone has someone in their family that embarrasses the ferg out of their people, as a whole. (If you can't think of anyone, then it's probably you.)

    Oh, if only a comment could be bronzed and mounted on the kitchen wall of every home right next to the standard woodcarving of the Last Supper...
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    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    In the end, they're behaving like most twentysomethings--only with more spray tan, hair products, steroids, and terrible fashion sense. The guido lifestyle was once the domain of lower class Italian-Americans using (what they considered) flash and violence to cover up poverty and/or ignorance. (Sound familiar?) Mall culture, MTV, and the cinematic portrayal of macho gangsters in television and film have spread the code to alot of other races at this point. Calling this a stereotype of just Italian-Americans is like calling Glee a stereotype of just gays.
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    Image of Notes from the underwhelmed Notes from the underwhelmed
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    I'm Italian, and, while I'm not in the "Oh my god! If people watch the Soprano's they'll think we're all involved in organized crime!" camp- mostly because I feel it's beneficial to have people think I could have them killed. But this show is just ridiculous. Oh my god! We all have bad tempers! We're hypersexual! We love hair products! We have big meals! We love our family! Oh! And we're really, really stupid. Like Tony Danza on Taxi.
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    Image of oudemia oudemia
    11/25/09

    @Notes from the underwhelmed: Or Joey on Friends!
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    Image of Notes from the underwhelmed Notes from the underwhelmed
    11/25/09

    @oudemia: Or, really, any Italian person on any show, ever. We're really only allowed to be wise in determining who is going to kill us or whom we should kill.
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    Image of Miss Anita Manbadly Miss Anita Manbadly
    11/25/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert Is Not Sorry About His AMA Performance
    In the words of Derek Faye, "Who, dear? Me, dear? Gay, dear? No, dear!"

    Also, his "singing" is atrocious. His notes were either flat or sharp (quite the accomplishment) and his tone was eerily reminiscent of a buzzsaw at a logging camp.

    We have already seen the "sexy antics" as pioneered by Madonna, aped by Britney, and lampooned by countless comedians. At this point, the pointless dramatics are simply a cover for a lack of talent.
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    Image of Penscribe Penscribe
    11/25/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert Is Not Sorry About His AMA Performance
    Before Adam Lambert was torched for his appearance on the AMAs, who, other than teenagers, was waiting for his appearance that night?

    I'm over 18. I no the kid's name because of google search but had knew no details about him, except he was once on AI.

    The last time I checked, AI had a HUGE under 18 fan base.

    But it's nice that everyone is trying to pretend he was a part of their demographic before Sunday night. I support your fake outrage.
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/25/09

    @Penscribe: You do realize that just because AI has a huge under-18 fan base doesn't mean they don't have a huge over-18 fan base, right?
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    Image of Penscribe Penscribe
    11/25/09

    @DahlELama: Yep, but since I don't know why adults watch it, I'll pretend the over 18 audience doesn't exist. Or, even, that most of the over 18 audience are parents to the under 18 audience.

    Altho, AI has produced some good talent.
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    Edited by Penscribe at 11/25/09 11:17 AM Penscribe was starred Penscribe was unstarred
    Image of topsy topsy
    11/25/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert Is Not Sorry About His AMA Performance
    This story has really exceeded its best before date. Why the fuck should Adam Lambert be explaining himself to America's parents/ Everyone on that stage was a consenting adult. End of story. Fox News vomits out hate speech 24 hours a day. Go online and you can easily find photos of the First Lady of the United States depicted as a monkey. And folks are worried about a FAKE blowjob? Get your priorities straight parents and then maybe most of your children wouldn't be so unpleasant to deal with.
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    Image of Fuzzy Dunlop Fuzzy Dunlop
    11/25/09

    @topsy: What does the consent of the people on stage have to do with anything? The debate, such as it is, is whether it was appropriate for the audience to see, not whether anyone on stage was victimized. By that logic, we can air hardcore porn on Nickelodeon, since the participants consented.
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/25/09

    @topsy: Actually, the "consenting" part is where I'm suddenly confused. If these parts were really "impromptu," then when and where does the consent to have your face shoved in his crotch come in? Because that's an onstage surprise I don't think I'd enjoy.
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    Image of topsy topsy
    11/25/09

    @Fuzzy Dunlop: With all due respect, what a stupid thing to say. The AMAs aren't Sponge Bob Square Pants. It's an adult show in an adult timeslot where CONSENTING adults have often taken the opportunity to express themselves in a SIMULATED sexual manner. If the kiddies were up then that's on the parents to monitor what they watch on an adult show.

    This whole thing is just so absurd. Girl on girl action is practically a staple of prime time tv these days and its not even a blip on the radar with no panicked cries to save the children. I'd been more concerned with teaching today's kiddies such blatant hypocrisy Lambert came on after 11pm, so he didn't violate the family hour. Is gay sex so threatening to folks? What do you think those boys have been up to all these centuries?
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    11/25/09

    @DahlELama: You really think it was 'spontaneous'? Come on now.
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/25/09

    @topsy: It's not so much that I think it was spontaneous as that you can't use an argument saying everyone was "consenting" when he says it was "impromptu." Why he'd prefer that people think he randomly mauled his fellow performers than that he'd rehearsed it this way is beyond me.
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    Image of Fuzzy Dunlop Fuzzy Dunlop
    11/25/09

    @topsy: Can the rage. I didn't take a position on the debate, I just said that the debate had nothing to do with the "consent" of the performers onstage, or lack thereof. Do you really disagree?

    I am curious about your claim that "consenting adults have often taken the opportunity to express themselves in a simulated sexual manner" on the AMAs before. Any examples?

    (Also, while you claim that girl on girl action is a staple of prime time tv these days, I must have missed all of the recent instances of simulated cunnilingus on network television. Can you give me a list of shows that have done this, so that I can add them to my TIVO list? Thanks).

    #tips
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    Image of topsy topsy
    11/25/09

    @DahlELama: Mauled? Of course he said it was impromptu; he's in spin-control mode.
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    This show reminds me of the attempted BET show "Hot Ghetto Mess." People screamed bloody murder over the exploitation, but managed to overlook the show didn't create the culture it was mocking, nor did the culture cease to exist just because the show didn't happen.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    11/25/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert Is Not Sorry About His AMA Performance
    He's right. Total double standard. I covered my kids' eyes during his antics, but I distinctly remember the 1980 AMAs when my father yelled, "Get in here, boy! Lionel Richie's face-fucking Donna Summers!"
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    Image of ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥ ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
    11/25/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert Is Not Sorry About His AMA Performance
    My only comment is that he has really cute ears. And that dark hair dye is hilarious.
    I want to see him as a blond.
    I'm indifferent to the music and the performance.

    Edit: I think he's got a great attitude about the thing. Kids will be fine.
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    Edited by ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥ at 11/25/09 9:42 AM ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥ was starred ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥ was unstarred
    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    To all my fellow Jersians, especially the southerners.

    [www.bennygohome.com]
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    Image of mimigoliath mimigoliath
    11/25/09

    In reply to Jersey Shore: Racist Against Italians?
    I'm from Long Island, and this "type" does not discriminate. I've seen guys like this who are Italian, Irish, Puerto Rican, Jewish, and everything in between.

    It's just sad when the ones who are balding try to do their hair like that. It's so...see-through.
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