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THECHAV
09/25/09

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Sad to say I can't stand MJ and reading his praise has actually made me like Hitler a little less.
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meg9
09/25/09

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This isn't really fair to Michael Jackson, any college professor will tell you that Hitler's speaking skills were horrifyingly effective, and that he was a master at speaking. Acknowledging that fact does NOT mean that the person has any admiration for Hitler. Michael Jackson had problems, was poorly educated for the most part, and was a bit on the crazy side, but please let's not make odd cracks that try to link him to Hitler.
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yojeezy
09/25/09

@meg9: I'm old enough to have heard far too many people disguise their anti-Semitism in such apparently clinical expressions of admiration for Hitler's oratory skill. I'm not speaking about you of course, but just speculating about why MJ would ever say such a thing. Hitler wasn't so much a master at speaking as a master of demagoguery. There's a big difference, and the implication behind MJ's expressed admiration is of course that all one has to do is speak skillfully and an entire nation can be moved this way or that. That discounts the responsibility of the audience to interpret the message, and it discounts that they have any intelligence to hear what is really being said. Hitler's followers were complicit in everything that accompanied his rise to power. Many intelligent Germans heard the message behind his words, and they paid the price for resisting him. By oversimplifying Hitler as a "showman," MJ is demonstrating vast ignorance of that era and I would say he IS at least subconsciously linking himself to him, showman that MJ was himself.
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i'm a bottle
09/27/09

@yojeezy: Excellent points.
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Cunning_Linguist
09/25/09

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I fail to see the love connection, but upon further reflection, MJ's bedazzled military-esque attire must have been inspired by someone. Why not the snazziest, wackiest genocidal leader in recent history?
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
09/25/09

@Cunning_Linguist: I always thought it was more Mussolini/Qaddaffi than straight Hitler.

You never go straight Hitler!
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TheBusinessGuy
09/25/09

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Andrew, there's nothing to see here. Move along.
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NinaHagen
09/25/09

@TheBusinessGuy: HA!
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BowlingForDollars
09/25/09

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You know, the plan the hijackers had to fly planes into buildings on 9/11 was a genius plan, but no one is saying they loved it.

Man, give the dead guy a break.
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i'm a bottle
09/25/09

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I've lost the little respect I've had for Michael Jackson. C'mon. Hitler? Hitler was indeed a showman, but it was a laughable show: Marxism this, Jews that, national unity here, war there.

The idiots in the villages and smaller cities ate it up with a spoon of course, but anyone with a little sense who read and travelled at the time saw him for what he was: an inept, pompous blowhard playing a farce.

I suspect that the same people who would go in for Hitler would also go in for Michael Jackson. They're all show. There's nothing interesting about them at all. Try reading about Hitler's life. It's a sad -- but boring -- story.
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i'm a bottle
09/25/09

@i'm a bottle: But I do wonder what this rabbi saw in Jackson. Was it just a PR thing for him?
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Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
09/25/09

@i'm a bottle: Oh, so I guess you were traveling around at the time? You've aged quite nicely. And that's why not a single other country got involved until they were attacked themselves?

I'm guessing by 'people who would go in for Hitler' you mean people who see History for what it is and don't deny he had a significant influence on an entire nation... and then some.

There is a difference between adoration of character and admittance of the strong qualities of somebody that enabled them to carry out their hideous ideals.
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i'm a bottle
09/25/09

@Shamoononon: I shave my legs.:

"Not a single other country got involved until they were attacked themselves?"

France and Great Britain declared war on Germany after Germany invaded Poland. Do you mean that they didn't provide material assistance? That's not entirely true either.
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Matt Cherette
09/25/09

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How did The Sun's piece at all imply Jackson "loved" Hitler?

The report states that Jackson referred to Hitler as a "genius orator." You then state that Jackson's assessment of Hitler was "accurate." So, by your definition, doesn't that mean that you also love Hitler?
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ampersandparade
09/25/09

@mattchew03: I knew there was something that was off about Andrew's posting quality. A pro-Hitler stance wasn't even on the list, but I'll be damned if logic is going to get in the way of a good story for this one!
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anonymousryan
09/24/09

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Can we also say that SS uniforms were fierce?
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xuatastic
09/25/09

@anonymousryan: nazis were evil, their uniforms however make me hot. Apparently designed by hugo boss. Don't get me started on the leather boots
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i'm a bottle
09/25/09

@xuatastic: Karl Diebitsch designed the uniforms but Hugo Boss did indeed produce them. I don't think he was the sole purveyor though.
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xuatastic
09/25/09

@i'm a bottle: karl, hugo, whoever it was they need to dressing all the men for the oscars this year.
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minou
01/16/09

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I would happily take that child off the state's hands, give him a real good Old Testament-style name, and raise him up right. He looks like an angel.
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VoxPopuli
01/16/09

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Also, oddly enough, that kid looks like Heath Ledger's daughter, sort of. Is is only me that sees it? Poor Matilda.

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DaeSu
01/16/09

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And this is why some children grow up and bludgeon their parents to death.
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forwardmotion
01/16/09

@DaeSu: It's called a public service.
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ADismalScience
01/16/09

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Can't you just feel the supremacy radiating from that photograph? The glittering genetic stock on display reduces me to my quivering Irish knees. Just tell me which furnace to leap into, Herr Scrawnydouche.
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forwardmotion
01/16/09

@ADismalScience: Heh heh. Glad you're back.
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Seeräuber Jenny
01/16/09

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I know someone who had problems with the NJ authorities. His daughter made a comment to her kindergarten teacher that was reported to the guy's ex-wife, who is, not to put too fine a point on it, a complete b--ch. The mother, without even asking her ex about it, called the authorities and this fellow had to get a lawyer to go into talk to them. He'd previously answered their questions, but they refused to tell him what his daughter had said and insisted he come in.

Fortunately, they realized that the little girl's remarks had been misinterpreted. But I was impressed that they did take it seriously.

Suggestion: Try to stay as far away as possible from co-workers with ugly divorce and custody issues. They will consume all the oxygen and make you consider suicide at the end of the day.
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yogagrrrl
01/16/09

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So sad, especially with their fourth child, We Really Hate Black People and Jews Campbell, on the way.
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Lysergic Asset
01/16/09

@yogagrrrl: HA!
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forwardmotion
01/16/09

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What I learned from this? Stay away from meth.
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