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George Tiller's Family Shutters His Clinic
Not $5,000 Per Hour, More Like $750
New York, 12:02 AM
Sat Dec 12
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Pro-torture hypocrites: fighting terrorism starts at home.
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Isn't that kind of like fighting the drug problem by attacking the people who work at needle exchanges?
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They have won. Every time they successfully terrify a doctor, or are free to harass patients (rape victim? woman whose birth control failed? mother who can't afford another child? Couple looking for a referral or some birth control? They're all one unit), every time "pro-choice" elected leaders shrug at campaigns like "The Pill Kills" and acts like this...they have won. (Shrugs...condones, perhaps. So much for the "ticking time bomb" idea...Roeder said there'd be other attacks. Why AREN'T we water-boarding his ass, or at least calling for as much? Because the GOP and it's constituents don't REALLY think "fake" America warrants the same concern...not unless, as with 9/11 and Ground Zero, they can exploit it somehow and make it about THEM.
They have an audience of voters and taxpayers who either are indifferent or sympathize--albeit with SOME distaste, or qualifications--with the extended family of Roeder and Operation Rescue (organizations like the Family Research Council and batshit, ridiculous mega-churches); they call themselves "pro-life" without even knowing what the fuck that term refers to, and those who mourn Dr. Tiller and feel dread and behalf of other doctors who fear the same fate...those people are just "abortion extremists."
Just as every abortion is wrong (until that individual "pro-lifer" needs one, that is), so too will this "pro-life" country leave the burden of defending everything from contraception to Plan B and abortion for rape victims--all nestled within those "elective/cosmetic abortions" (and, as the "pro-life" movement would have it, too negligible to honor Roe v. Wade)--on US. They don't see any connection between society and the terror waged against healthcare providers like Tiller at all.
The anti-choice movement has won the war of public relations by betting on the facile ignorance; squeamishness; pseudo, half-assed, uninformed, pick-and-choose/MAKE UP-Christian-doctrinereligiosity; and shallowness of the public and the media. The same fucking people who complain that impoverished countries and the poor need to use birth control (and that IS a goal of family planning---encouraging people to practice conscientiousness as it relates to family size) look at Roeder and think what the Hannities, O'Reillies, and any other journalist in the media who uses the terms pro-life, pro-abortion, and partial birth abortion imply (or all but announce, in explicit terms)....freaks like Roeder are no worse than "extremists" like Tiller or the fat hairy man-hating feminanzis who love "abortionists" and abortion, in and of itself.
This is a country where "feminist" is still a dirty word and--even when describing their side's acts of TERROR--the media uses terms like "pro-life"; thus someone from outside the "abortion fringe movement" (what other side of the abortion movement exists, in conventional wisdom?)--someone from Washington-- is going to have to stand up for us and remind everyone that abortion is (and should be) legal; shooting someone is NOT; and that these "pro-lifers" don't simply want to "reduce abortions" so much as criminalize them and make birth control and information that much more difficult to obtain.
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In this case, the terrorists have won.
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I believe that Planned Parenthood does more to prevent unplanned and unwanted pregnancies than any other national organization and as such deserves our pennies and dollars. In a perfect world, all babies are planned for and wanted. Except some pregnancies, wanted or not, don't go right. Do we, as a civilized society, expect every fertilized egg to be carried to birth, no matter the consequence to the egg, the mother and father, and the extended family? I will curtail my rant here. I live in an area where there is a late-term abortion provider who is currently under the protection of the US Marshall's Service. Please give up a sandwich, a latte, or a bottle of wine and send it to the people who put their lives on the line to keep women's reproductive rights safe.
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serious medical reasons are one thing, but the whole point of that policy is the loophole.
im sure he deemed a procedure medically necessarily to whoever really wanted it done.
food for thought.
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What an asshole. I deem it your responsibility to determine about whom I speak.
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@Mean_Ol_Liberal: No idea what the Kansas AG is like (whether he's crediable or a shill for the pro-life movement) but the same Times article cites to an indictment he brought against Tiller alleging that Tiller justified late term abortions based on anxiety disorder and question diagnosis of depression. The charges were all dismissed by the court for what appears to be lack of jurisdiction.
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When you bother to read more on the issue than what a guy who thinks girls that take birth control are too slutty to fuck (cognitive dissonance) believes, please feel free to re-engage in this debate.
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When men take 50% responsibility for their progeny then this argument will be worth having.
But look at the stats. No matter what we wish for this world, we have our reality.
I don't disagree with dissenting views here at all. I actually agree with some conservative points here. Abortion is unthinkable. But to men who want to weigh in, and bless you, when it becomes your problem, and it never really will be, then you have a weighted voice in this. But until that happens, you are part of the problem.
To Conscious Men: Fix it. Not with Roe v Wade, but with responsibility. Say what you have to say but not to women who are already pregnant, or were, nor to their advocates. Make it not happen.
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I don't want to make decisions of this magnitude for others. I have three kids. I get it, I think. Maybe I would have let a baby be born and then die. I don't know. I wasn't dealt those cards. I'd have to be in that moment, right then and then live with it all, either way.
But I choose to not judge others on that decision. I can't imagine it was made on the fly. I envision tears, heartbreak, agony and remorse for whatever decision one comes to.
I could describe the parents of a child watching their newborn die because it was born without kidneys but I won't.
There will never be an answer that we can all live with because its too big for our minds. And Men, when you have to ultimately choose, then you can tell us what to do. But until then.... You will never know the real agony and decisions.