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Why We Should Leave Sully Alone
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01/18/09
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01/16/09
That's what this recent coverage of 'Sully' reminds me of.
It is wonderful to applaud a person for doing his or her job, but there has to be a time to walk away. I'm pretty sure that this man knows he did his job and knows that people are thankful for it.
01/17/09
Also - the thing they aren't talking about yet, is that he put the plane down in the water, so he wouldn't take any lives on the ground. I think he knew there was a fairly good chance that nobody would walk away from this. Luck and skill. He's a pro.
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And, yes, Gawker does both build up and destroy (though I don't think it's always in that exactly linear a fashion), but those are proto-celebrity fameballs who have thrust themselves into the attention.
I guess my point with this was that "hero" and "celebrity" are very different things, and we should try to be mindful of that.
01/16/09
Richard: It's quite rich to call my comparatively straight-forward comment "prim" given the decorous blowjob that was your Slate-like contrarian "It's cynical, but it's true" anti-hero-worship hero worship piece.
And while I'm not sure what your reference to 1890 means, my pointing out your (and commentors') use of "Sully" wasn't that it was an offense to the nickname "Sully" as much as it was an offense to your point about this guy being a true hero; you don't call Obama "Barry" (un-ironicaly anyway) so either put some " " around "Sully" or use his first and last name like an adult who isn't, at the very least, his passing acquaintance.
As to your comments about Dolomite's, I think you (self-interestedly) change "promote" in his/her comment to "build up" in your own. I think most can agree that "Sully" needs little build up in the hero or pilot areas (and I'll will assume your use of the term was out of a lack of consideration and not because you actually believe Gawker could do any more to build him up.)
In the end, your comments and convenient sentimentality are unnecessary to anyone who recognizes the difference between a "hero" (i.e. capable, good-at-his/her-job person) when one rarely comes along and anyone else (e.g., the "proto-celebrity fameballs" who have, with Gawker's welcome assistance, "thrust themselves" into attention.) Apparently, with the accolades this post is receiving, that isn't the Gawker readership and I'm not particularly surprised. A month from now this "Sully" guy won't register on your (Richard's) radar. And why would he?
01/16/09
I didn't self-interestedly do anything. You're reading too much into that.
And you're being pedantic about the Sully vs. Mr. Sullenberger thing. That's what I found prim. This isn't the Times. I used "Sully" to serve a point. If you don't agree with the point, fine, fair enough. But to harp about my use of a nickname as if it's some grave disrespect to the man seems silly. And it diminishes your actual argument, which, if I'm understanding it correctly, is that I needn't lecture anyone on an idea that should be rather obvious. Which is fair. But it was Friday at 5 and I was just musing.
Where the whole "Gawker promotes celebrity just to tear them down too!!" shrillery came into play, I'm not quite sure. But that particular criticism stopped being interesting about two years ago. It's over now. And, more importantly, it has nothing to do with this post.
01/16/09
It's no more silly than your post is when it comes to affording any kind of real respect. "I used "Sully" to serve a point." And what would that point be?
Then you address of what you seem to believe is my actual argument. I suppose "It was Friday at 5 and I was just musing" rationale is, I suppose, (welcome) intensity-diffusing humor.
And the Gawker celebrity promotion just to tear down shrillery comes, I believe, from Dolomite's original comment (where, like your addition on the original point twisted it into something it wasn't quite (like you do here with the wrong " " marks here with the "!!" marks.)
This Gawker thing was not at all a point I made so it's hard for me to address: but the I'm-rubber-and-you're-glue-but-no-I'm-the-rubber (tired) Gawker editor fall-back position of fighting criticism from the but-that-criticism-is-old standpoint not only doesn't address that particular criticism but is also way, way, way older than two years (ask Spiers). And you're right it does have nothing to do with this post (I didn't bring it up, you did).
01/16/09
Dolomite made that promote/tear down comment, yes, but you responded to it and seemed to agree with. That's why I brought it up.
Anyyyway, I think we're arguing (mostly) about semantics at this point. Let's talk about more important issues. Like, how can I get wine delivered to the house?
01/16/09
Now if your use was that thought out and "warm" then it would seem to kind of betray the very point you wanted to make about how (in your best-put words) "We need heroes, I know. But they don't always need us." in that he probably would balk at you calling him "Sully" to his face just as anyone (unfamous) would feel uncomfortable with a stranger calling them by a nickname.
I did seem to agree with and I mostly do. I did not agree with what you turned it into which was an accelerated version.
Wine delivered to the house? What a first-year-blogger I'm-always-drunk alcohol reference to close the point. Semantics? Ok. If that's what you mean by having that last poetic paragraph follow a piece about not making too much of this "Sully" fellow.
01/16/09
But you did, in doing so, brillianty manage to exemplify the worst of the bitchy worst of the old, aging, boring Gawker commentariat (you even threw a Spiers reference in! Well done!)
Man, this has been a complete waste of time. I'm going to go participate in the real world now. I suggest you do the same.
01/17/09
In fact, i'm going to call him that 28 times!
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
Captain Sully McSillypants
There! Now, Mr. Sig Sourpuss, why don't you count how many times I did that and be sure I really adds up to 28?
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Richard is another obvious example.
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01/16/09
As for Sullenberger, I have hope. He's a former fighter jockey, longtime commercial pilot, businessman, safety expert and investigator -- I see experience and stability. Once the first blush of exposure passes, he'll raise the rates for his business (and/or hit the lecture circuit) and keep doing what he clearly loves: Flying.
01/16/09
01/16/09
Don't Sully Sully
01/16/09
Flying really is hours of tedium punctuated by minutes of sheer terror.
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