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Kakapo
11/01/09

In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
"Where else but in the world of a high school fish tank would you find characters named Piranica, Clamantha or Jocktopus?"

Oh, no. #projectrunway
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Lizawithazee
10/30/09

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Tim G. did an interview in August where he talked about many of the planned challenges being scrapped at the last minute because of the change in networks. That definitely handicaps this season-- the challenges have been lame. Oddly, he didn't mention Nina and Kors being AWOL for most of the season.

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MisterHippity
10/30/09

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The reality is: Project Runway hasn't changed that much (other than being boring). The whole move to Lifetime (and new production co.) shouldn't matter in terms of the quality of this latest season.

The biggest problem is that this year's cast is boring and not very talented. The people they put on the show have a huge impact on how good a season is. Just a couple compelling personalities can make a huge difference. Christian Siriano, anyone? This season has not Christian, nor anyone close (neither in personality nor talent).

The production company changed (from Magical Elves to Bunim-Murray), but that didn't really make a huge difference I don't think. The new compnay is sticking to the standard formula for editing these episodes that was established back in season 1.

The challenges could be better designed, and the Nina and Kors need to show up for judging more often. But the big problem, like I said, is this group of designers - they are boring in their personalities, and boring in the work they produce. A deadly combo.
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Colonel Mustard
10/30/09

@MisterHippity: I heard from someone that there was less producer tampering this year, vis-a-vis the aufs. Ergo, most of the crazies were weeded out early, leaving only the more boring and "traditional" contestants. #projectrunway
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MisterHippity
10/30/09

@Colonel Mustard: Interesting. If that's true, then maybe producer tampering isn't such a bad thing after all, huh?

The judges haven't just kicked off several interesting personalities (such as Malvin and Ra'mon) -- they've also auf'd a few folks who look very promising talent-wise (such as Epperson and Shirin).

Maybe in the past, the producers have been rescuing the judging panel from their own bad judgment!
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Zira
10/30/09

@MisterHippity: I don't watch the show enough to remember the names but I think the tall blonde chick is very talented and personable too--but she isn't very exciting.

We should all take sewing lessons at FIT so we can compete on the show next season to shake things up! #projectrunway
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GooberSaysHey
10/30/09

@Colonel Mustard: That seemed like the case to me, too. I felt like some of the people they would have kept around longer on Bravo just for the nut factor and drama. At first I thought this season was just edited nicer (as in ... the new producers wanted to focus on the challenges and not the household drama) but I now think there just is no real drama. These people are so dull and without vision that they can't even find anything to argue about! #projectrunway
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MisterHippity
10/30/09

@Oryx Hearts Crake: That would be Althea.

(My theory is that her parents were deadheads - hence the name.) #projectrunway
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GooberSaysHey
10/30/09

@GooberSaysHey: BTW, I never thought I'd say this, but I totally miss bitchy Kenley now. #projectrunway
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Zira
10/30/09

@MisterHippity: Good catch! All the drugs Althea's mom was smoking when she was pregnant with Althea would explain Althea's ethereal presence. #projectrunway
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firewater231
10/30/09

@MisterHippity: amen #projectrunway
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heywhat
10/30/09

@MisterHippity: That and in past seasons there was a consistent panel of judges that could sense who was really talented and who was just mediocre. I remember people like Michael Knight and Jeffrey having a bad week and getting a pass b/c the judges knew they had potential.

I agree that the challenges are really badly designed. Last night's challenge really had me scratching my head. I really don't know how they thought that challenge could yield any innovative and interesting designs. The designers just took their old designs and tampered with them a little.
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Bindlestiffy
10/30/09

@MisterHippity: More likely RobinTrower (Procul Harum) fans...Al(i)thea is a song of his. #projectrunway
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GooberSaysHey
10/30/09

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Nothing about PR is right this year. Wrong city. Terrible time slot. Boring cast (where are the nutty break-out characters??), inconsistent lineup of judges (I need Nina's weekly snark, damn it, to know whether or not I like the dresses), no tension, and even Tim Gunn seems out-of-sorts. (I read somewhere that he spent the whole season terrified of earthquakes.)

Also, it doesn't help that it's on Lifetime ... that here in New York is buried on Channel 62 which is nowhere near anything else I watch, so I never scroll by and see it coming up. If it wasn't for DVR show subscriptions I would never see it. I don't even notice that it's been recorded each week until I'm scrolling through my saved shows on Sunday mornings. #projectrunway
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Cynner
10/30/09

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PR is down because no one in their right minds watches Lifetime. Half of us don't have it listed on our custom channels, and be damned... MOST of us miss it. Normal Lifetime viewers are NOT into PR. Now let's add a city move, designers who can't design and the loss of Bravo and it's advertising power.

OH, if only Bravo could be on the 'lower end' of channel selections, what a HUGE fanbase they would have. #projectrunway
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robina
10/30/09

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The ratings for Project Runway are down because this season has been a nightmarish waste of time for anyone who's ever seen it before. They've completely alienated the built-in audience due to inconsistent judging, sub-sub-par challenges, and mediocre-at-best designers who don't realize how easy they have it. #projectrunway
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JungleBuddha
10/30/09

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sorry Lifetime, we gays can't gentrify everything #projectrunway
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Tattertotter
10/30/09

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The real reason the show is sooo boring and banal this season is LOS ANGELES. A fashion show that's not in New York is bound to fail, and it should! LA is limp and will never "make it work" because most of the people dress like they're going bowling in Tulsa every fucking day. Or you can blame the whole damn thing on that fucking Macy's Accessory Wall . . . #projectrunway
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Spirit Fingers
10/30/09

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And what of D'Onofrio? #projectrunway
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Colonel Mustard
10/30/09

@Spirit Fingers: If Chris Hemsworth promises to be shirtless a lot, I will watch the SHIT out of this Thor movie, regardless of whether he lives in Chicago (as would be authentic,) or not. #projectrunway
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sarrible
10/30/09

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That is because this season of Project Runway is unspeakably boring and low-rent. The new producers are crap, and this year's designers are all bitchy in a spectacularly boring way. There's no Wendy Pepper, there's no Laura with her pile of kids, there's no Santino. There's just mush-mouth Althea, crying Christopher, and pinchy, mean Irina who will probably win. #projectrunway
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BowlingForDollars
10/30/09

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PR blows because they scheduled it opposite of my Real Housewives and made me choose.

And my Tivo is already full. #projectrunway
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joefuntime
10/30/09

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Can someone explain why Lifetime would pay so much for a show based on visuals and not film it in HD? That blows my mind. #projectrunway
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misslinda
10/30/09

@joefuntime: I get PR on Lifetime in HD. Trust me, the extra pixels do not make this season any more interesting. #projectrunway
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Cynical Media Bitch
10/30/09

@misslinda: Ah, but is the show produced in HD? I can't find anything that says it is, and that makes all the difference.

@joefuntime: As to "why not HD?" the answer is that HD isn't cheap. #projectrunway
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misslinda
10/30/09

@Cynical Media Bitch: These are clothes, not herds of baby elephants crossing the Serengeti. Though it would definitely spice things up a bit if the models had to walk the entire Serengeti. #projectrunway
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Cynical Media Bitch
10/30/09

@misslinda: The models look like baby giraffes to me.

I agree that HD wouldn't make the show any more dramatic, but joefuntime has a point: a show that's all about visual effect ought to be HD from end-to-end. #projectrunway
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