A lot of people are arguing Anderson would be happier in the GMA slot but I think he would be much happier as an investigative reporter out in the field instead of working as an anchor for CNN or GMA. His ratings for CNN have been atrociously bad....he's ranked last despite heavy promotion and a huge salary. Why not set him free to do investigative reporting even if means less money for him? He'd be happier for sure.
@___: He's only ranking third sometimes in his timeslot in the 25 to 54 demographic, not total viewers. Third isn't last in the time slot either. Campbell Brown has always been routinely fourth place in her slot in total viewers and the 25 to 54 demo.
His ratings haven't been great, but CNN's rating overall are down and they need a new general direction if they are going to be competitive. He just gets singled out all the time nowadays for articles about ratings being in the shitters because the right wing hates him and are looking for any dips or demographic trends that can be presented as proof he's failing.
The right wingers hate him because they know he's gay because he's the one gay guy in news who is always outed and he made a tea bagging joke (after the early tea baggers themselves made themselves a laughing stock by calling their activities tea bagging, websites made jokes, and MSNBC personalities made jokes) so he became the fall guy for the whole tea bagging snafu. He's been routinely miscredited by the right for creating the title "tea bagger" for demonstrators and popularizing it ever since he made the joke. From the start the explanation has been that he's the gay guy and tea bagging is a dirty gay thing only he knew about. The right wing blogs even included pics of his face on the cover of the Advocate to show he's the one to blame. A publication with right wing readers posts an article about 360's ratings being bad this month in this demographic or compared to what they were during the election or whatever then their readers go into an orgy of glee over the big bad tea bagging gay's expected demise and claim credit for it. Then the article gets reposted on right wing blogs and links are twittered between conservatives with remarks like "tea bag THIS, homo!".
However, I think you're correct that he's better as a correspondent. Or he could anchor during the morning or afternoon and CNN could put in some demagogue in his slot who has a chance of competing against the primetime demagogues.
Sorry but the stats speak for themselves: His 10 p.m. show, "Anderson Cooper 360," has declined 62% in total viewers and 70% in adults 25-54 from November 2008, according to Nielsen figures for the first three full quarters of 2009. He has been dead last (fourth place) among all age groups for the last two full quarters of 2009.
But I dont think this is Anderson's fault: I think its because CNN has lousy news writers and a lousy format. Anderson can't change that. He just reads the news. But all the more reason for him to go back to what he does best and what I miss most: his full time investigative reporting. Thats where he really shines.
What does he need that huge salary for anyway? His boyfriend is clearly low maintenance....he doesn't even own a shirt!
@___: In November 2008 AC360 like many other news shows had huge unusual ratings due to election coverage. The only reason that silly comparison is used and his show is singled out for it is to spotlight him in a negative way.
There are plenty of nights he does fine against the competition in his slot (accepting that FOX will always be first by a wide margin since it has the whole far right audience), but the focus in articles are totally on negatives. Like the Friday ratings were good and 360 was a comfortable second:
10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On The Record w/ Greta —1,866,000 viewers (469,000) (777,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 — 811,000 viewers (252,000) (368,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 474,000 viewers (161,000) (199,000)
American Greed – 165,000 viewers (77,000) (78,000)
Nancy Grace –427,000 viewers (126,000) (215,000)
11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor —1,264,000 viewers (388,000) (610,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 — 542,000 viewers (176,000) (258,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —430,000 viewers (155,000) (189,000)
Mad Money – a scratch w/56,000 viewers (a scratch w/18,000) (a scratch w/26,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 396,000 viewers (118,000) (199,000)
Having a traditional format means the ratings fluctuate depending on interest in the news of the day while editorialist demagogues have much steadier ratings since people will tune in when nothing of exceptional interest is happening just to hear their hero rail against the adversary. 360 probably did take some additional ratings hit from moderate conservative viewers leaving as a result AC of being falsely branded by the right as the man who coined the highly resented epithet "tea bagger" while the left is oblivious and gives him no false credit for that. CNN in general also has the problem that liberal dismiss the network as conservative and conservatives dismiss it as liberal.
A traditional format can't compete against demagogues in primetime. That doesn't make the format bad, just not a ratings grabber. America and American public discourse would be a lot better off if the demogagues were cleared out of cable news.
She was the girl in elementary school that "had ants in her pants." Always moving spastically, words caroming out of her mouth like pinballs shout out of a tilt-a-whirl, making you wish you had chosen to live in another country. One where freedom of expression was no less protected, but where there was an intelligence minimum that had to be met.
If Anderson was out now, he would have landed the GMA job instead of George Stumpyloopahness. He would have it all -- cheery snarky banter AND free trips to whatever disaster stories he chooses. But he chooses to trap himself in the cloak of a "journalist" on CNN, where his audience is sadly eroding because he's not a crazed street prophet like his competiton.
@unclevanya: I don't think so. Two of the four major personalities on GMA (Champion and Roberts) are glass closeted like the Coop. If the execs at GMA wanted an out personality on the show they would have one already. Having another gay/lesbian person who's out join would also draw unwanted attention to the two glass closeted people who stay silent never mentioning anything related to dates or partners or attractions while their straight co-hosts discuss those things.
@mostlymartian: Or maybe Champion and Roberts would have felt free to start casually discussing their lives, and the whole silly, needless charade would come to an end. And the earth would continue to spin.
@unclevanya: Champion and Roberts could discuss their lives at any time if they choose to. They are established personalities on network TV. Champion is a weather guy so there's no issue of the "out gays are liberal and anti-religion" baggage impacting the way people see his reporting. Roberts can look around and see other successful lesbians hosting TV shows on a few cable news shows and Ellen. Neither of them has anything like the intense attention on their dating life that Anderson Cooper has, so they don't have to be very worried about the mainstream press picking up a lot of relationship gossip. To avoid out gays on GMA, ABC would have to look publicly like a bad guy firing Roberts or Champion for coming out while an out gay applying for a host job can be easily and quietly rejected.
It doesn't make any sense to hang Champion and Roberts' decisions on Anderson Cooper and hypothetical scenarios where he is both out and hired for GMA.
@scroll_lock: She is an ex-meth addict and is honest about it, but is it meth alone that has made her look so much older? If a woman's hands and neck reveal her true age, this poor girl (who I really like) is older than me, and that's old.
@Elektra: Point taken, but I never understood why Gawker seems to think A.C. is obligated to come out. Also, I don't know if him not discussing his preference publicly constitutes being closeted, especially if he's living as a gay man.
@badass-boi: I don't know whether Gawker thinks he's obliged to come out or simply takes advantage of his coyness on the subject to make a punching bag out of him. That's of course Denton's problem, not mine. But if Cooper is going to broaden his platform beyond his own, um, very serious news show and face down Kelly Ripa et al. on the morning blather shows in an effort to be all cute and cuddly and popular and human, then he's got to know that he's as much fodder for the gossipers as anyone else. What he chooses to do about that is his business--though I do think that gay public figures who refuse to come out make jokes of themselves.
By the way, for the love of all that's holy, please don't refer to AC's taking it up the ass and swallowing cock as "his preference." It's his sexual orientation.
Kelly is also the one that took the mega-hot Andy Cohen poolside pic and uploaded on her twitter (I think), so she's a perfect gal pal to the gays it seems.
@cpjones: I want to repeat cpjones statement. But remove the ugh. Thanks for putting the Andy cohen/Mark gay fantasy into my head! That will get me through the afternoon!
@Brian Moylan: I'm jealous of Mark. I've wanted to be besties with this guy ever since he started getting bombed on tv and laughing with/at the Real Housewives.
@Understater: Andy's too much of an aggressive social climber for Anderson. Cooper's low key, Cohen loves to throw himself into pictures with celebs. Saw a pap pic of Madonna leaving Tom Ford's film party, and five feet behind, oh look, it's Andy Cohen stalking her. He's Zeligay.
@yourfriendandneighbor: Aw man, Karen Carpenter might agree that stomach's "fat." I think he looks great. The zero percent body fat types are the worst.
@Steverino Begins: I'm not saying I would kick it out of bed for eating crackers. I'm just wondering how one gets it done. And I love that some of you know exactly how.
@yourfriendandneighbor: Oh I know exactly how. By eating real food. That's become a requirement with me recently. Gays that don't like real food get kicked to the curb.
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His ratings haven't been great, but CNN's rating overall are down and they need a new general direction if they are going to be competitive. He just gets singled out all the time nowadays for articles about ratings being in the shitters because the right wing hates him and are looking for any dips or demographic trends that can be presented as proof he's failing.
The right wingers hate him because they know he's gay because he's the one gay guy in news who is always outed and he made a tea bagging joke (after the early tea baggers themselves made themselves a laughing stock by calling their activities tea bagging, websites made jokes, and MSNBC personalities made jokes) so he became the fall guy for the whole tea bagging snafu. He's been routinely miscredited by the right for creating the title "tea bagger" for demonstrators and popularizing it ever since he made the joke. From the start the explanation has been that he's the gay guy and tea bagging is a dirty gay thing only he knew about. The right wing blogs even included pics of his face on the cover of the Advocate to show he's the one to blame. A publication with right wing readers posts an article about 360's ratings being bad this month in this demographic or compared to what they were during the election or whatever then their readers go into an orgy of glee over the big bad tea bagging gay's expected demise and claim credit for it. Then the article gets reposted on right wing blogs and links are twittered between conservatives with remarks like "tea bag THIS, homo!".
However, I think you're correct that he's better as a correspondent. Or he could anchor during the morning or afternoon and CNN could put in some demagogue in his slot who has a chance of competing against the primetime demagogues.
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Sorry but the stats speak for themselves: His 10 p.m. show, "Anderson Cooper 360," has declined 62% in total viewers and 70% in adults 25-54 from November 2008, according to Nielsen figures for the first three full quarters of 2009. He has been dead last (fourth place) among all age groups for the last two full quarters of 2009.
But I dont think this is Anderson's fault: I think its because CNN has lousy news writers and a lousy format. Anderson can't change that. He just reads the news. But all the more reason for him to go back to what he does best and what I miss most: his full time investigative reporting. Thats where he really shines.
What does he need that huge salary for anyway? His boyfriend is clearly low maintenance....he doesn't even own a shirt!
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There are plenty of nights he does fine against the competition in his slot (accepting that FOX will always be first by a wide margin since it has the whole far right audience), but the focus in articles are totally on negatives. Like the Friday ratings were good and 360 was a comfortable second:
10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On The Record w/ Greta —1,866,000 viewers (469,000) (777,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 — 811,000 viewers (252,000) (368,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 474,000 viewers (161,000) (199,000)
American Greed – 165,000 viewers (77,000) (78,000)
Nancy Grace –427,000 viewers (126,000) (215,000)
11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor —1,264,000 viewers (388,000) (610,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 — 542,000 viewers (176,000) (258,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —430,000 viewers (155,000) (189,000)
Mad Money – a scratch w/56,000 viewers (a scratch w/18,000) (a scratch w/26,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 396,000 viewers (118,000) (199,000)
[tvbythenumbers.com]
Having a traditional format means the ratings fluctuate depending on interest in the news of the day while editorialist demagogues have much steadier ratings since people will tune in when nothing of exceptional interest is happening just to hear their hero rail against the adversary. 360 probably did take some additional ratings hit from moderate conservative viewers leaving as a result AC of being falsely branded by the right as the man who coined the highly resented epithet "tea bagger" while the left is oblivious and gives him no false credit for that. CNN in general also has the problem that liberal dismiss the network as conservative and conservatives dismiss it as liberal.
A traditional format can't compete against demagogues in primetime. That doesn't make the format bad, just not a ratings grabber. America and American public discourse would be a lot better off if the demogagues were cleared out of cable news.
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She was the girl in elementary school that "had ants in her pants." Always moving spastically, words caroming out of her mouth like pinballs shout out of a tilt-a-whirl, making you wish you had chosen to live in another country. One where freedom of expression was no less protected, but where there was an intelligence minimum that had to be met.
When did she change her name to Kelly?
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Anderson is under contract to CNN still anyway.
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It doesn't make any sense to hang Champion and Roberts' decisions on Anderson Cooper and hypothetical scenarios where he is both out and hired for GMA.
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You can only be outed if you are in.
If you're out, you're out.
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He's simply decided his sex life is private. So is mine, and so should anyone's be. This is not the 80s. We have enough happy-to-be-out gay icons.
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By the way, for the love of all that's holy, please don't refer to AC's taking it up the ass and swallowing cock as "his preference." It's his sexual orientation.
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