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Baroness
07/26/09

In reply to Is the Tragic Love of Bobby and Jackie a Hoax?
To answer the question, yes. It's a sensationalistic angle for someone to pick the Kennedy bones, but woeful and placing way to much weight on rumor.

Despite her tabloid fame (and secret enjoyment of it), sex seems to be the last thing ever on Jackie's mind. If she drew close to Bobby, it was because the entire nation demanded family continuity with the Kennedys. She'd had a pretty tenuous and mercenary connection with the family to begin with. While I believe Jackie did grow fond of JFK after many bumps in the road, Jackie exulted in being First Lady.

I disbelieve rumors of an affair with RFK sheerly because he was such an unattractive wee bantam of a man. He wasn't Jackie's type at all. But after JFK's murder, I can see them drawing close- but as family. It must be the most underrated and underexplored trope of life and literature, the (non-sexual) bond that a man can have with his brother's wife. And heightened to the extent of the Kennedy dramas of those years- well yes, I can see a bond forming. They'd already been through a lot together, Bobby and Jackie were canny allies. They weren't fools. They probably talked and coordinated the aftermath of JFK's hundreds of infidelities.

I think they had a bond there, they were friends. Imagining a romance in a tabloid way, - well people will do that. But Bobby was such a boring grind, Jackie eager to flee to her new life- I don't think it's likely. They had deep and fond affection for each other, as inlaws can. And when Bobby was killed, Jackie fled to Onassis for protection. She realized what a dangerous family she was linked to. What a sick deja vù Bobby's murder must have been.
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dtopping
07/26/09

@Baroness: I can't tell who does a better job of talking out of their ass, you or Heymann. You should totally write a book!
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PandoraSpocks
07/27/09

@dtopping: Oh piss off.
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Voyou_Charmant
07/27/09

@Baroness: Whatever, lady! I want to believe in Bobby awkwardly fingering Jackie by the pool. I've already commissioned a painting of it -- it better be true or this painting will be silly!
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SeaBassTian
12/13/08

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The national mood does demand businessmen in handcuffs. But the press has to offer something beyond garden variety fall guys. Like everything else in this country, there has to be an element of glamor involved. But Bernie Madoff is no looker. But maybe the sons can help sex up this dull scandal.
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ohnothimagain
12/12/08

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Is it possible that there is a whole lot more of this going on?
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Phyllis Nefler
12/12/08

@ohnothimagain: Not on this scale. This is larger than the WorldCom scandal.
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CherriSpryte
12/12/08

In reply to A Bloodthirsty Public Finds the Villains We Want
That man is an odd color.
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IndianSlipper
12/12/08

@CherriSpryte: It's Bermuda Orange. It comes with the yacht.
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CherriSpryte
12/12/08

@IndianSlipper: Ah. I was wondering if it might be that "Nantucket Red" all the kids were going on about a few years ago.
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Private Hangnail
12/12/08

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For a long time I'd hear about Ponzi shemes and think: Why are these con jobs named after a character from Happy Days? Was there an episode I missed where the Fonz defrauded the Cunninghams? Then I heard it correctly and realized my error.
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Private Hangnail
12/12/08

@Private Hangnail: Schemes, not shemes.
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
12/12/08

@Private Hangnail: Hangnail, yoiu just jumped the snark!
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Private Hangnail
12/12/08

@Uncle_Billy_Slumming: Just now? Seriously? Wait, is that a bad thing?
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Mymoustache
12/12/08

@Private Hangnail: Heyyyyyyyyyy!
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
12/12/08

@Mymoustache: Was Pinky Tuscadero a bad thang?
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belltolls
12/12/08

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More.
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
12/12/08

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Can't. Resist. Must. Type: You want some nice fat scapegoats (like billygoats, but scapier?) then look into the people that spend weekends at Bernie's. Poor guy, he was probably in a bind in which either he agrees to front a giant scam or he loses a family member.

Further reading: [nihoncassandra.blogspot.com]
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IndianSlipper
12/12/08

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A billion here and a billion there, and pretty soon were talking serious money! 50 billion? Holy shit.
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Pope John Peeps II
12/12/08

@IndianSlipper: What would you even DO with 50 billion? I'd buy a giant house, a jet, a fountain in Venice, and then I'd just run out of ideas, and sit around in a bathtub full of gold dust, wondering what the fuck is on television.
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Pope John Peeps II
12/12/08

@Pope John Peeps II: Although 50 billion would buy many more seasons of Pushing Daisies. And then I could just pay for new seasons of Slings and Arrows.

Hey Paul Gross, Susan Coyne. I'll give you a million dollars each to just start writing again.
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