It could be a combination of all those things. But I don't think it's surprising that he wouldn't run - he was only tempted by Paterson's weakness. The man has no interest in any kind of competitive or difficult election - he only wanted a cakewalk (as Paterson would have been). He is not remotely in the mix for the 2012 presidential nomination, has no interest in actually governing NY State (though, thanks to term limits being extended, he could run for mayor in 2013, god help us all), and can't handle another embarrassing loss. Kornacki had a good piece on Rudy's options in the Observer. [www.observer.com]
Oh also - Kerik's conviction doesn't exactly remove the political liability for Rudy. The guy was his choice for Sec. of Homeland Security and his longtime business partner.
@Peter Feld: Without term limits being extended, couldn't he have run again this time? I find it hard to believe that he would want to be Mayor again, nor do I think he would have much chance at winning that election.
@kneetoe: You're right, he could have - but he wouldn't have challenged Bloomberg (for whom the term limits were lifted). I think he likes being the sheriff in this town and if he thought the field was weak in four years, he could be tempted by the idea of a comeback. As to whether he'd win, I suspect you are right but don't want to underestimate his loyal following.
@BaconCat: I'm with you on that one. I'm so sick of hearing him and other people talk about how great he was after 9/11. What was he going to do, run away? He did what any other mayor of a big city would do in the same situation. And let's not forget the fact that he let workers in Ground Zero when he knew it wasn't safe, and now a lot of people are paying the price with serious health problems. Personally I'll never forgive him for "cleaning up" Times Square. I prefer the Times Square of the '70s - hookers, peep shows, junkies and drugs to what's there now. Toys R Us, Virgin, TGI Fridays? WTF??
@fuckingoldman: Well, if you ask a lot of firemen they consider him the 20th hijacker because he ushed for motorola to win the new walkie-talkie contract after they contributed 150,000 bucks to his campaign. Only one problem with that:
The fire department told old Rudy that the motorolas didn't work inside buildings and that had been a problem in the first attack on WTC. So a whole shitload of firement never heard the command to get out of the second tower. How he sleeps at night, I'll never know. The man deserves nothing short of hot coals up the ass.
You could run JJ Florio against Giuliani and win. The only way to fuck that up is for the goddamn White House Chief of Staff to get involved in fucking New York gubernatorial politics during a goddamn economic crisis, two wars, a health care debacle, etc.
@Unsolicited Advice: I like your exasperated, spazzed out way of responding to this sort of stories, it is like reading a transcript of my own thoughts.
H2H pre-campaign doesn't have much meaning, I'd rather see the negatives on Paterson, but you've given me a bit of pause there. That's a big margin. Hmm.
Alright, I'm in for the plan. Let's send the White House Chief of Staff blundering into the fray to officially bless the candidate like a modern-day Boss Tweed. Because it certainly won't come off like a selfish, partisan distraction!
@Unsolicited Advice: I agree the WH didn't handle this as smoothly as they could have, but I'm with them in spirit. There is virtually nobody I wouldn't throw under the bus to avoid "Governor Giuliani," and lets face it--Paterson is way out of his depth. Of course, Cuomo's no peach, but... I think the WH is trying to ensure we're served the smallest shit sandwich on the menu.
They are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. I'd wager that Romney will be the Republican nominee in 2012, no matter who the heck is in Albany, or Trenton, or wherever.
And could someone explain to me how a Cuomo candidacy is supposed to keep Rudy Giuliani from running against Obama in 2012? [gawker.com] If Rudy runs (and wins) against Paterson, he takes office Jan. 1, 2011, and no way he can immediately turn around and start running for president. On the other hand, scare Rudy out of the governor's race by nominating Cuomo, and hizzoner has nothing better to do that try again for the White House (which is a joke, but that's a different post). Again with the unintended consequences, Rahm.
@naugahydeinplainsight: Thanks, but we'll take a pass on four years of Governor Guiliani simply to spare the country the slimmest of chances that he becomes president.
@naugahydeinplainsight: My guess is that the idea here is as much to open the door for Cuomo to run against Paterson as it is to push out Paterson. It will now be a wee bit difficult to make the race argument with Obama on board. If Paterson wants to get crushed in a primary, he can.
I think this has nothing to do with Giuliani running against Obama, which no one is scared of under any circumstances. But Rudy's a formidable candidate for governor, and that's what they want to prevent. I don't think Cuomo chases him out, he just has a much better chance to win.
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They're not concerned about the Rudester running against Obama in 2012 - the GOP base will never choose him. But he does have some viability as a candidate for governor of NY.
That's a lot bigger than $36 million, and we all are paying for it. It's great that Cuomo is suing, but let's all remember one thing: it never should have happened in the first place.
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The fire department told old Rudy that the motorolas didn't work inside buildings and that had been a problem in the first attack on WTC. So a whole shitload of firement never heard the command to get out of the second tower. How he sleeps at night, I'll never know. The man deserves nothing short of hot coals up the ass.
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I think he meant Andrew Cuomo. Chris is the good looking one. He has no interest in politics--just chasing tail.
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Cuomo, however, beats Giuliani head-to-head. So in short, Paterson needs to get lost. What exactly has he been good for, anyway?
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H2H pre-campaign doesn't have much meaning, I'd rather see the negatives on Paterson, but you've given me a bit of pause there. That's a big margin. Hmm.
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I think this has nothing to do with Giuliani running against Obama, which no one is scared of under any circumstances. But Rudy's a formidable candidate for governor, and that's what they want to prevent. I don't think Cuomo chases him out, he just has a much better chance to win.
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They're not concerned about the Rudester running against Obama in 2012 - the GOP base will never choose him. But he does have some viability as a candidate for governor of NY.
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That's a lot bigger than $36 million, and we all are paying for it. It's great that Cuomo is suing, but let's all remember one thing: it never should have happened in the first place.