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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    10/17/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    Sort of like the Dan "The whole damned story is true but the MSM will instead focus on whether '70s faxes used smart quotes" Rather incident.
    The only minorities Rush spends times with live on the Dominican Islands and have an age-appropriate interest in Barbie dolls. #cnn
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    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    "It comes from Wikipedia, which cites a book that got it from Wikipedia."

    I was waiting for that sentence to be written before I could say this with complete confidence: we're doomed.
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    I notice that Glenn Beck isn't demanding that anyone apologize for saying that he raped and murdered a young girl in 1990, so it's gotta be true. Sad, really. I hear that little girl had a bright future ahead of her until she was brutally raped and murdered by Glenn Beck in 1990. #cnn
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    Image of MyNameIsChris MyNameIsChris
    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    My hunch is that quote is completely fictional... otherwise we would have had a media field day about it when he actually said it. I usually find Rush is smart enough to not say outright racist things... though he's CONSTANTLY spewing race baiting garbage where the intent is racist, even if he can back off it and claim he's just providing discourse. Smart. And annoying. And awful. #cnn
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    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    It's hilarious that people have to apologize for using and believing fake quotes are true when Rush's career has been built on lies. Well, lies and lots and lots of Oxy's.
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    Image of quotidian quotidian
    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    But still, how do we come to the standard of "OK, he didn't actually say that, but he did say this, so the point still stands"? In this same space I read tirades about falsehoods uttered by George Will, with no such leeway granted. If you are going to say he said racist things, stick to the actual racist things he has said. #cnn
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    10/16/09

    @quotidian: The problem is that, in America, we tend to fall into this line of thinking where, if one fact is out of place, the whole argument falls. If one allegation of Rush making a racist statement is bogus, then it doesn't matter how many other legitimate claims you find, Rush is simply not a racist.

    So I think it's a perfectly fine reaction to have, that sure, this one quote was bogus, but the others were legit, so maybe we can downplay the apology bit and reiterate that Rush is, in fact, still a racist. #cnn
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    Image of quotidian quotidian
    10/17/09

    @skt.smth: I understand what you are saying, but an important point here is that this is far from the first time that the bogus quotes have been trotted out and objected to as being false. So when folks trot them out again in the face of the fact that they have publicly been shown to be false, they should understand that their argument is weakened. #cnn
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    10/17/09

    @quotidian: But not weakened in any significant measure when the bulk of the evidence still proves the point. That's the problem. We tend to act as though any shred of falseness negates the overall point. Okay, so this one quote is bogus. The others aren't. We were wrong to front a bogus quote, but Rush is still a racist goon. Unfortunately, Sanchez didn't make the point in that way. #cnn
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    10/17/09

    @skt.smth: I will certainly concede that you are correct that a shred of falseness, meaning the phony quotes, does not negate the point. But as I said, the falseness of the quotes had been brought to light emphatically in the past, so I think CNN should have been quick to point out the problem, and it did not seem to care about accuracy of the record until pressured. Otherwise, the appearance is that CNN just doesn't care. I will also concede that I don't perceive Rush to be the racist that he is portrayed to be (which automatically makes me an insane idiot to many who read this site), but I have no problem with hearing arguments based on what he actually has said that would dispute my point of view. I am more interested in this in journalistic terms, in seeing how media outlets deal with issues of accountability. As I said, the Washington Post was pilloried on this site for allowing George Will to forward a falsehood; I wish for accountability for all. #cnn
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    10/19/09

    @quotidian: Can you please stop using the word "quotes" and use the correct word, "quote," instead? "Quote." As in the singular. Please feel free to listen to every other quote brought up by CNN, which were 100% factual, for your argument "based on what he actually has said."

    Disingenuous arguers are disingenuous on this site all the time so why am I bothering? Your repeated insistence on referencing some random "pillorying" of George Will coupled with the "Rush Limbaugh actually isn't as racist as he is portrayed to be" by his own quotes pretty much already tells us what we need to know. #cnn
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    What a drama queen. He made such a huge, over-enunciated deal of it. The quote wasn't a lie, he just couldn't get a 17th source for it. He could have buried this non-apology in a quick sentence in between stories, but he turns it into a 2-minute on-air wrist slashing. Sanchez, get a dick. #cnn
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    Image of God God
    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    Ask not when Rush Limbaugh will apologize to you. Ask when you will apologize to Rush Limbaugh. #cnn
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    Image of Niko Bellic Niko Bellic
    10/16/09

    In reply to CNN Apologizes to Rush Limbaugh
    It comes from Wikipedia, which cites a book that got it from Wikipedia.

    Wikipedia is the shit. #cnn
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    Image of Airvault Airvault
    10/16/09

    @Niko Bellic: It's so much more reliable than its predecessor, Shrugipedia. #cnn
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    Image of TRexstasy TRexstasy
    10/05/09

    In reply to New Republic Finally Gets Around to Calling Betsy McCaughey a Crazy Person
    "Henry Kissinger's brains and Jessica Rabbit's body."

    And Seabiscuit's teeth!
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    Image of onebadclam onebadclam
    10/05/09

    In reply to New Republic Finally Gets Around to Calling Betsy McCaughey a Crazy Person

    Something tells me Republicans are willing to drop the Kissinger's brain requirement when confronted with the Jessica Rabbit body.
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    Image of PaisleyPajamas PaisleyPajamas
    10/05/09

    In reply to New Republic Finally Gets Around to Calling Betsy McCaughey a Crazy Person
    Interesting they would compare her to Jessica Rabbit rather than Francis The Talking Mule.
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    Image of Jupiter8 Jupiter8
    10/05/09

    @PaisleyPajamas: He ex-husband's name was Wilbur, so maybe Mr. Ed would be a better comparison.

    My favorite moment when she was Lt. Gov in NY was when she stood up during Gov. Pataki's ENTIRE inauguration speech. Anyone who didn't think she was nuts after that was kidding themselves.
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    Image of lil red lil red
    10/05/09

    In reply to New Republic Finally Gets Around to Calling Betsy McCaughey a Crazy Person
    McCaughey episode is available on The Daily Show website:
    [www.thedailyshow.com]

    [www.thedailyshow.com]

    Unfortunately the extended version (off air portion) was taken down.
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    Image of phlox✔ phlox✔
    10/05/09

    @lil red: Thanks! I saw this when it aired and couldn't believe the blatant stupidity.
    Jon was extraordinarily patient with this nincompoop.
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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    10/05/09

    In reply to New Republic Finally Gets Around to Calling Betsy McCaughey a Crazy Person
    Now if only those New Republic shitheads would apologize for giving The Bell Curve their cover real estate.
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    10/05/09

    In reply to New Republic Finally Gets Around to Calling Betsy McCaughey a Crazy Person
    [www.huffingtonpost.com]

    Still gloriously preserved on HuffPo.
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