When I first read this, I laughed and laughed. Until I realized that the letter came from the governor of a state whose economy is one of the largest in the world. A state that is in dire economic straits right now. And then I felt really sad.
Between this and the knife incident, I think we New Yorkers can safely say to you Californians that your governor is a bigger goddamned fool than ours. And trust me, Paterson has set that bar pretty high. #arnoldschwarzenegger
Truly as a resident of California, Arnie's message to all of us since his election has been "Fuck you!" And it hasn't seemed like much of a secret. From his special cigar smoking tent that caused water to leak into the Capitol building to the state workers' 10% or more pay cuts and his wife's inability to use a hands free device for her cell phone when she's driving, his entire metier as guv has been one big ass reaming.
@unclevanya: Well, there you can be crass and boorish about it to which no one will take you seriously, or your could show some cleverness guile that while not only gets the point across, insinuates a certain tone of "I am smarter than you are"
I give him points for being cordial and coy while remaining blunt and demonstrating some wit.
@WFROSE: This was 'wit'? This stunt wasn't all that clever; 13-year-olds do this kind of thing while bored in class. Also, it was crass (and just plain stupid) of Ahnold to crash a Democratic fundraiser. He deserved the beating he took, and to respond so much later in this Alfred E. Newman way just shows what a joke he is. #arnoldschwarzenegger
Whatever, at this point, I'd like to personally say "Fuck you" to every single person in the state assembly, the state senate, the... well, the entire state gov't, at this point. Way to not work together - AT ALL. I'm glad I packed up and left the east coast for this shitshow. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Conchie Birdie: After 22 years in SF, I have realized that Kentucky looks pretty good in comparison.
But when you are bitching about how awful the politicians are, make sure that you place a healthy share of the blame on the voting population of California.
*The unworkable budget and tax situations can't be fixed because voters would freak.
*The state keeps adding spending mandates because the voters want them.
*The state can't raise revenue to pay for the spending mandates because the voters won't stand for it.
*The only reason that Arnie's in a position to make this gesture is because the voters recalled his predecessor, for the heinous crime of returning automobile registration fees to their previous level.
As Kent Brockman said, "Sometimes, democracy just doesn't work." #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Cynical Media Bitch: Here's the problem I have with the whole voting situation in California - we vote into office those who are supposed to make educated decisions about the most pressing issues for the state, yet they, in turn, turn around and have the voters make the decisions via a whole slew of propositions.
Um, aren't these elected officials supposed to represent us when it comes down to decision-making time?
I apologize for any redundancy... it just feels like a whole idiotic mess. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Conchie Birdie: It is an idiotic mess. But I'm afraid that you're using material from your high school civics class to interpret the political reality here.
We vote into office people who excel at fundraising and manipulating their local political machines. (You might have noticed the slate cards in last year's elections, their endorsements, and the amount of time politicians spend pandering to the competing Democratic clubs of SF. That is an industry in itself, trust me.)
The people we elect are supposed to make educated decisions about the most pressing issues, but instead, they spend their time building up their campaign funds and pandering to their political bases, in preparation for the next level of office. That's because term limits (which I sincerely regret supporting) don't allow them time to learn the issues or develop coalitions that transcend party lines.
The initiative process in California is a very low barrier to putting whackadoodle ideas on the ballot, or to enacting them; witness the Prop 8 debacle. It is easily manipulated by people with the money to pay for signatures, which is how we wound up with Arnold as governor.
It has become easier for the Legislature to put items onto the ballot than it is for it to enact them on its own, in part because of the dysfunctional budgeting process.
The only thing that scares me more than the current state of affairs is the lunacy that we could get up to in the process of writing a new constitution for the state.
In short, our legislative branch has reduced itself to a talking-shop, and if there are terrorists armed with nukes, I hope that they set one off in Sacramento while the Legislature is in session. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Conchie Birdie: wait - you are complaining that the voters get to make decisions rather than special interest biased politicians? #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Conchie Birdie: It's not always the politicians' fault, considering that you need a supermajority to pass or revise any new tax law - including revising the stupid law that has frozen property taxes at unsustainably low levels. We need a constitutional convention that would allow the Legislature to pass revenue bills with a simple majority - it wouldn't be a cure-all, but it would sure as hell help. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Cynical Media Bitch: I know that came off quite naive as to the reality of the political situation in the state, but I meant it in its simplest form. As someone who spent time on a few campaigns while getting to know this delightful city, I was able to witness the reality of it all and this whole "election-day" process that is, no matter what party you're a part of, completely screwy.
What I want to know is why there is such a low barrier for the initiative process? Was the entire concept (not citing specifics, just the general origin of props) created from money-filled special interest groups or was there a real, legit reason at first (like, you know, the reason for the democratic process in its most raw form)?
@Conchie Birdie: Actually, the introduction of the initiative (along with recall and referendum) was meant to offset the role of money-filled special interest groups in California politics in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the Southern Pacific Railroad being the classic example. Initiative, referendum and recall were cornerstones of the Progressive-era reforms championed by Hiram Johnson and others.
To address why the barrier is so low, my only explanation is that people a hundred years ago assumed that the electorate would be increasingly better-educated and civic-minded, thereby being in a position to evaluate laws on their merits.
@SodaPop2007: No, read what @Cynical Media Bitch wrote about such "voters". Not just your innocent, educated-about-the-issues people voting. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Cynical Media Bitch: To be fair to the ghost of Hiram Johnson, he didn't expect legions of paid signature gatherers, nor a state with as many citizens.
The idea is a good one, but there has to be some change to crush the advent of political hit men (both commercial and political) using paid sig gatherers to get things on the ballot. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Trai_Dep: Even with my longstanding and oft-proven conviction that the masses are asses, I was raised to believe that initiative, referendum, and recall are important parts of our political structure.
You're right that Johnson probably didn't expect that there would be paid signature gatherers, but given the explosion in the state's population over the ten years preceding his governorship, I don't think it takes much of a leap to assume that he expected the state to keep on growing by leaps and bounds. What I'm sure he didn't count on is the extension of citizenship (and thus, the franchise) to the degree that has happened.
I would be happy to see paid signature gathering outlawed, but I don't know if that would survive the inevitable challenges in both state and federal courts. #arnoldschwarzenegger
The thing that's crazy is even the most government-hating hardcore Libertarian would agree government is needed for basic infrastructure like building up ports and shipping facilities. And spending now makes up for the drop in corporate and personal spending, which is negligible.
Way to screw an entire state over pique, Arnold. Adult. Real adult. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Trai_Dep: Update from the 2nd linked article's author, Tim Redmond, who got a reply from the Governor's press secretary: tim redmond:
UPDATE: Aaron McLear from the governor's press office just called. When I asked him if the Fuck You message was intentional, all he would say was "what a strange coincidence." He was clearly being sarcastic.
Tweedle, that pretty much confirms it -- these guys knew exactly what they were doing.
What. An. Ass. Fantastic that a bunch of Frat Asshats and their serial-molesting boss have the time to craft such nonsense while the state is burning (not literally, as of this moment - phew!), while screwing a major city and county of CA. That's leadership! #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Trai_Dep: His little tantrum also ignores the role of state government in developing the Port of San Francisco, which was controlled by a state board from the Civil War until the late 1960s. The port was only turned over to the City when it became clear that all the action had gone to LA/Long Beach, and what was left for the Bay Area had moved to Oakland, as containerized shipping replaced breakbulk.
In short, the state handed SF a mess of rotting piers, warehouses and seawalls, and told the City to have fun. Local government contributes nothing to the Port's operations (even if it had the money, which it doesn't), so the decay has continued, with the notable exceptions of the Ferry Building and Phone Company Park. Sure, Herb Caen Way... is pretty, but most of the piers are just a sneeze away from collapsing into the bay. #arnoldschwarzenegger
I'm not really sure we should expect anything less of Arnold. I mean, the man has his Conan sword in his office. Spectacular. And I could totally see him ripping off the tie and standing in front of Ammiano and saying, "Remember, Tom, when I promised to kill you last? I Lied. Arrrgguaaahhh!" #arnoldschwarzenegger
Sorry, but this is just another case of
unwarranted gossip creation by the so-
called "editors" at Gawker. This is the
kind of thing that demeans all blogs.
It's sad, but it is increasingly apparent
that this is the new standard here.
As a reader and California native, it
really saddens me to see all of the
new, innovative ideas our Gov. has
introduced to help our state grow and
excel be lost under your faux-scandals. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Sonar Jose: Oh, please, gossip is this site's reason for existence (look at the title bar for Gawker.com) and this story was all over SFGate last night and in this morning's paper. If it weren't for the emergency closing of the Bay Bridge, it would be at the top of the page.
What exactly has Der Governator accomplished in the last six years? I can't think of a single thing. That said, Ammiano is a toad who got where he is because of identity politics, and he got what he deserved. #arnoldschwarzenegger
@Sonar Jose: Seriously, your comment was cute, but going from "Kiss my gay ass" to "Fuck you" was an escalation.
"Suck it Arnie" didn't escalate matters, and I suspect he is doing other things with his time than reading Gawker, like Sudoku or Jumble, or shopping for a Bluetooth headset for Maria. #arnoldschwarzenegger
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UGH! whydontyoujustleavemealone!?
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#tips
#whydontyoujustleavemealone!?
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#tips
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Between this and the knife incident, I think we New Yorkers can safely say to you Californians that your governor is a bigger goddamned fool than ours. And trust me, Paterson has set that bar pretty high. #arnoldschwarzenegger
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I can hardly wait to see who buys the office next. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
Ironic that the one who wasn't "man" enough to speak his mind was the Terminator.
He can still kiss my gay ass. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
I give him points for being cordial and coy while remaining blunt and demonstrating some wit.
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But when you are bitching about how awful the politicians are, make sure that you place a healthy share of the blame on the voting population of California.
*The unworkable budget and tax situations can't be fixed because voters would freak.
*The state keeps adding spending mandates because the voters want them.
*The state can't raise revenue to pay for the spending mandates because the voters won't stand for it.
*The only reason that Arnie's in a position to make this gesture is because the voters recalled his predecessor, for the heinous crime of returning automobile registration fees to their previous level.
As Kent Brockman said, "Sometimes, democracy just doesn't work." #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
Um, aren't these elected officials supposed to represent us when it comes down to decision-making time?
I apologize for any redundancy... it just feels like a whole idiotic mess.
#arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
We vote into office people who excel at fundraising and manipulating their local political machines. (You might have noticed the slate cards in last year's elections, their endorsements, and the amount of time politicians spend pandering to the competing Democratic clubs of SF. That is an industry in itself, trust me.)
The people we elect are supposed to make educated decisions about the most pressing issues, but instead, they spend their time building up their campaign funds and pandering to their political bases, in preparation for the next level of office. That's because term limits (which I sincerely regret supporting) don't allow them time to learn the issues or develop coalitions that transcend party lines.
The initiative process in California is a very low barrier to putting whackadoodle ideas on the ballot, or to enacting them; witness the Prop 8 debacle. It is easily manipulated by people with the money to pay for signatures, which is how we wound up with Arnold as governor.
It has become easier for the Legislature to put items onto the ballot than it is for it to enact them on its own, in part because of the dysfunctional budgeting process.
The only thing that scares me more than the current state of affairs is the lunacy that we could get up to in the process of writing a new constitution for the state.
In short, our legislative branch has reduced itself to a talking-shop, and if there are terrorists armed with nukes, I hope that they set one off in Sacramento while the Legislature is in session. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
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10/28/09
What I want to know is why there is such a low barrier for the initiative process? Was the entire concept (not citing specifics, just the general origin of props) created from money-filled special interest groups or was there a real, legit reason at first (like, you know, the reason for the democratic process in its most raw form)?
Oh, and it isn't like they'd be interrupting much.
#arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
To address why the barrier is so low, my only explanation is that people a hundred years ago assumed that the electorate would be increasingly better-educated and civic-minded, thereby being in a position to evaluate laws on their merits.
As you might have noticed, this is not how things turned out. #arnoldschwarzenegger
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The idea is a good one, but there has to be some change to crush the advent of political hit men (both commercial and political) using paid sig gatherers to get things on the ballot. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
You're right that Johnson probably didn't expect that there would be paid signature gatherers, but given the explosion in the state's population over the ten years preceding his governorship, I don't think it takes much of a leap to assume that he expected the state to keep on growing by leaps and bounds. What I'm sure he didn't count on is the extension of citizenship (and thus, the franchise) to the degree that has happened.
I would be happy to see paid signature gathering outlawed, but I don't know if that would survive the inevitable challenges in both state and federal courts. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
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10/28/09
Way to screw an entire state over pique, Arnold. Adult. Real adult. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
tim redmond:
UPDATE: Aaron McLear from the governor's press office just called. When I asked him if the Fuck You message was intentional, all he would say was "what a strange coincidence." He was clearly being sarcastic.
Tweedle, that pretty much confirms it -- these guys knew exactly what they were doing.
What. An. Ass. Fantastic that a bunch of Frat Asshats and their serial-molesting boss have the time to craft such nonsense while the state is burning (not literally, as of this moment - phew!), while screwing a major city and county of CA.
That's leadership! #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
In short, the state handed SF a mess of rotting piers, warehouses and seawalls, and told the City to have fun. Local government contributes nothing to the Port's operations (even if it had the money, which it doesn't), so the decay has continued, with the notable exceptions of the Ferry Building and Phone Company Park. Sure, Herb Caen Way... is pretty, but most of the piers are just a sneeze away from collapsing into the bay. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
10/28/09
unwarranted gossip creation by the so-
called "editors" at Gawker. This is the
kind of thing that demeans all blogs.
It's sad, but it is increasingly apparent
that this is the new standard here.
As a reader and California native, it
really saddens me to see all of the
new, innovative ideas our Gov. has
introduced to help our state grow and
excel be lost under your faux-scandals. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
10/28/09
What exactly has Der Governator accomplished in the last six years? I can't think of a single thing. That said, Ammiano is a toad who got where he is because of identity politics, and he got what he deserved. #arnoldschwarzenegger
10/28/09
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10/28/09
"Suck it Arnie" didn't escalate matters, and I suspect he is doing other things with his time than reading Gawker, like Sudoku or Jumble, or shopping for a Bluetooth headset for Maria. #arnoldschwarzenegger