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    Image of City_Dater City_Dater
    06/03/09

    In reply to Graydon Carter's Fool-Proof Plan to Save Newspapers
    Someone needs to show that delusional old poop a computer soon... Even if whoever finally does it ends up getting fired for keeping this fascinating invention from him for all these years.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/03/09

    In reply to Graydon Carter's Fool-Proof Plan to Save Newspapers
    Build. More. Outhouses.
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    Image of Vic_Damocles Vic_Damocles
    06/03/09

    In reply to Graydon Carter's Fool-Proof Plan to Save Newspapers
    Sounds like GC has been spending a little too much time in the Conde bunker. The Times, like a lot of papers, breaks big stories all the time and they're still screwed. Those five '09 Pulitzers weren't for basket-weaving.


    Unless by "big stories," Graydon means monthly features on the Kennedys and Marilyn Monroe, and anything loathsome hack Dominick Dunne feels like writing.

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    Image of Kid Twist Kid Twist
    06/03/09

    @Vic_Damocles: I think he means stories about gay polyamorous electro-ejaculation murders.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/03/09

    @Kid Twist: really now, that's much more of a 'Post' sort of story, isn't it?
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    06/03/09

    In reply to Graydon Carter's Fool-Proof Plan to Save Newspapers
    You lose In-Touch-With-Reality Points when you start an article with "Goodness".
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    Image of Kid Twist Kid Twist
    06/03/09

    In reply to Graydon Carter's Fool-Proof Plan to Save Newspapers
    A.G. Sulzberger is already on it.
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    Image of Hamilton Nolan Hamilton Nolan
    06/03/09

    @Kid Twist: GOLD STAR.
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    Image of garbanzo314 garbanzo314
    11/26/08

    In reply to No Print Media Welfare -- Except For Me
    @BooWahBabe: Why does not the rest of the world see this? Jarvis simply has skimpy credentials in the new media space and the stuff he has done sucks. Those who can't, blog.


    The reason for his popularity is that he used to be a print guy, he's loud, and he spews ideas all the time, albeit with a low signal-to-noise ratio. No lack of that in the blogosphere.


    Should be BlatherMachine, not BuzzMachine.

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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    11/26/08

    @garbanzo314:

    It's sort of the same problem Lee Abrams has. Anyone can spout off a bunch of "new" ideas. Actually making them work is what takes talent.


    That's why some credit is due to the people throwing money at Politico, HuffPost, Daily Beast, etc. At least they're willing to try a new model for journalism that doesn't involve piggybacking on the work of print reporters, which is what 99.9999999% of new media/blogs do now.

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    Image of oopsidoo oopsidoo
    11/26/08

    In reply to No Print Media Welfare -- Except For Me
    Oh come on, that's the quid pro quo in interviews. You give an interview, they mention your book. It's not print welfare - he's giving something to get something. If all media executives his age had his philosophy, they'd be a lot further along in the media world. And I wouldn't have to explain to my boss what an ad impression is for the 10th time.
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    Image of Weegee's bored Weegee's bored
    11/26/08

    In reply to No Print Media Welfare -- Except For Me
    Who care about dead trees? I've cut down half the Rain Forest printing my drivel. And I play to wipe out an endangered species hunting for lunch.


    Yes, I know the latter is a lift from "Real Men Don't Eat Quiche," which sold well enough to actually off a few oaks.

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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    11/26/08

    In reply to No Print Media Welfare -- Except For Me
    And a mention of his book in that article would have sold -- what? -- one book, maybe two, tops? Damn that offending journalist, who cost Jeff Jarvis a grand total of $5.80 in royalties!
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    Image of Weegee's bored Weegee's bored
    11/26/08

    @MrInBetween: And he'd only get that much if the two copies sold at list.
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