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    Image of blix blix
    10/02/09

    In reply to Bloggers: Higher Learning's Saviors, or Destroyers?
    Blathering bloggons of blogetivity.
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    Image of Cicada Cicada
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    Remember when Sean Hannity was defending Mark Foley because the incriminating emails were "suspicious" in their origin.
    And hey, now Mark "I want to fuck underage pages" Foley is getting his own conservative radio talk show! [www.politicsdaily.com]

    So, just to be clear. Republicans get very upset if you tell a conflicted kid to wear a condom , but actually trying to fuck underage kids makes you a conservative media personality. Not to mention a respected member of Congress.

    Nope, nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    I think the problem that we're facing is, "why do you think conservatives care about gay kids?"

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the relative danger or lack thereof that that student was placed in.
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    Image of Atilla the Bun Atilla the Bun
    10/01/09

    @braak: Absolutely. These wingnuts are the same people that get up-in-arms if a hot female teacher is arrested for having sex with one of her 15 or 16 year-old students. In those situations, they just think its "boys being boys," with the strength of their outrage directly correlating to how good-looking the teacher is. It's only when its boys-being-boys with other boys or men that the wingnuts get their hackles up.
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    Image of katastic katastic
    10/01/09

    @braak: When are conservatives ever genuinely concerned about the welfare of the human beings they claim to be defending? Look at their efforts to outlaw abortion. They fight to ensure the woman has to have the child, but cut funds to medical programs for unwed and underprivileged mothers. They also gut programs designed to provide health care and education for the children that they INSISTED be born. So what's new? They just want to get their cheap political points.
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    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    Let's leave "gay" & "truck stop" out of this equation for a moment and use 16-yr-old girl and public restroom instead. Sounds like a daily occurrence in the NYC public school system. Maybe telling the person to use a condom isn't ideal advice but wanting to save someone's life first before judging them isn't the worst place to be coming from either.
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    Image of The Blob The Blob
    10/01/09

    @once: agreed. I knew Jennings not long after this incident occurred, when I was a gay kid who benefited from his openness as a teacher. He's an absolutely decent guy who deserves his position. The Obama team simply needs better, more vigilant PR to combat media idiocy.
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    The Dems have GOT to stop giving into these whining, closet cases and date rapists. It's not like they'll ever be satisfied, and scattering drops of blood on the water only makes them hungrier.
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    Image of glitteratigroovejet glitteratigroovejet
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    and that "older man" turned out to be "wide legged stance" Larry Craig . . . and the circle of life is complete.
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    Image of BaldwinPeriphetes BaldwinPeriphetes
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    Soft target. If the kid was a footballer screwing older women in the bathrooms this wouldn't have even come up. We all know it's because he's gay and Jennings is gay and so it's the easiest thing in the world to incite fear about.


    Legally as long as the kid was above the age of consent Jennings is fine. Morally, a teacher giving any kind of encouragement to a student to have sex (even safe sex) outside marriage is going to stir some people; gay sex moreso, gay sex with older men in bathrooms especially so.


    I think Obama needs to hire some new vetters.
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    Image of theysaidwhat theysaidwhat
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    He did have a legal obligation to report it, because the age of consent was 16 and the boy was 15.

    Do I understand why he didn't? Of course! It would have outed the boy and outed Jennings (why else would Jennings have been the confidant?). You think things are bad now for the GLBT community, well, then you'd be shocked at 1988. Reporting it may or may not have been the best thing he could have done for this child, and I understand that.

    But he had a legal duty, unfortunately, so the right wing radicals may win this battle. Yes, I know that Beck and Hannity and freerepublic and the rest are really only going after Jennings because he is gay. That is PAINFULLY obvious. But they may be able to make it stick because Jennings didn't meet his legal obligation(which may have differed from his moral one in this case).
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    note: approximately half the students in any given high school are over 16, which is the age of consent in many states. Do we have ANY information about how old this student actually was?

    edit: ah, yes. from the mediamatters link:
    "...Jennings' attorney wrote in a 2004 letter that the student was 16 years old, which is -- and was at the time -- the legal age of consent in Massachusetts."

    so, basically, the student had the right to have sex with this "older man" and Jennings had no right to stop it. "use a condom" was about the best advice he could give.
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    theysaidwhat promoted this comment Edited by lostarchitect at 10/01/09 12:35 AM lostarchitect was starred lostarchitect was unstarred
    Image of theysaidwhat theysaidwhat
    10/01/09

    @lostarchitect: Queerty had it at 15. The age will make all the difference in this matter, but those righties don't deal in facts.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    10/01/09

    @theysaidwhat: Does it say how much older the man was? I'm given to understand that there's a kind of margin if one person is below the age of consent.

    My high school always had it at five years, but now that we're on the subject--why the hell didn't anyone at my high school actually know what the law was?

    Jennings point is probably equally valid--he's got this job precisely because teachers don't have the training to correctly handle situations like this.
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    Image of adiam7 adiam7
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    They are so predictable. I wish Vegas or at least my bookie took bets on the GOP. I could make some serious cash betting on idiotic statements from Steele, Palin and all of Fox news. Although I doubt the odds would be that great in terms of payout.
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    Image of ThePantaloon.com ThePantaloon.com
    10/01/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    If only Hannity would come out of the closet, Fox would be much more chilax.

    [www.thepantaloon.com]
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    Image of lionboy lionboy
    09/30/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    This is so, so, so awfully painfully for a gay man such as myself to have to say, but they have a legitimate point. Were the tables turned and the guy worked for Bush, Olberman would be all over this for at least a week. For the love of god, didn't somebody at the White House read the book first?
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    10/01/09

    @lionboy: 20 years ago? Nah.
    Unless the hypocrisy issue came up, which isn't so in this case.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    10/01/09

    @lionboy: Keith Olbermann might. My mom might. But I don't think I'd be that upset about it. I'd like to think I'd be relieved that a conservative took a student's practical best interests into consideration, rather than feverishly devoting themselves to some prudish ideology.
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    09/30/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    Quick everyone! Grab your pitchforks and torches. This monster is trying to create homosexuals!! OMG, teh gays will destroy our precious, precious children.

    /ralph
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    09/30/09

    In reply to Seizing "Statutory Rape" Zeitgeist, Right Hones Latest, Gayest Czar Attack
    *sigh*

    But when is Fox News going to report on the allegations that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990?
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    09/18/09

    In reply to Teachers and Cocaine: The Best of Friends
    In her defense, she did call it "doing lines of Shakespeare."
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