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    Image of Ogiri W Surie Ogiri W Surie
    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Face Appears on Blotter Acid
    "Yes we ca... OMFG the wallpaper is coming to kill me!"
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    12/02/09

    @Ogiri W Surie:
    Yes We Can (Hallucinate)!
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    Image of AzureTexan AzureTexan
    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Face Appears on Blotter Acid
    Come to think of it, one of the best nights of my life came courtesy of a Martin Van Buren Bong.
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    Image of Crooks Crooks
    12/02/09

    @AzureTexan: That's nothing. I bought a Rutherford B. Hayes bubbler that works like a charm. I assume its from the same set, though? "Lame Presidents" smoking paraphernalia.
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    Image of AzureTexan AzureTexan
    12/02/09

    @Crooks: Yep, and for the connoisseur of the milder buzz, there's the Herbert Hoover Hookah.
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    12/02/09

    @AzureTexan: Now all you need for the complete set is the Calvin Coolidge Crackpipe.
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    Image of AzureTexan AzureTexan
    12/02/09

    @atlasfugged: And the Franklin D. Rolling Papers.
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    Image of Kosar Söze Kosar Söze
    12:42 AM

    @AzureTexan: obviously, none of you have visited Mount Headrush*- Lincoln's top hat really hits smoothly.

    *an aborted ceramics project- couldn't figure out how to sneak it into the kiln.
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    raincoaster promoted this comment Kosar Söze was starred Kosar Söze was unstarred
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    01:15 AM

    @Kosar Söze: Umm....I live in Vancouver and know a glassblower who will happily take custom orders, in case any of you want to realize your twisted bong dreams. just sayin'
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    02:14 AM

    @Crooks: Sometimes I mix a little hash with my Taft and get some mean munchies.
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    Image of eatsshootsleaves eatsshootsleaves
    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Face Appears on Blotter Acid
    I've heard about this! You get all excited and you feel like you're a part of something important and you start imagining things that aren't there.

    The comedown takes a while.
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    Image of sweet_communist sweet_communist
    12/02/09

    @eatsshootsleaves: I was promised an end to DADT. :(
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    Image of eatsshootsleaves eatsshootsleaves
    12/02/09

    @sweet_communist: I was promised by the star-person that the walls would stop bending.

    CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN MY ASS.
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    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Face Appears on Blotter Acid
    DEA Microgram bulletin says a bunch of the Obama E pills are fake, usually a mix of meth, coke, ketamine, and aspirin. Just goes to show you, Obama isn't just a person, he's a brand.
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    12/02/09

    @LeeroySpitzer: Hold on, something with meth and coke is "fake"? Sounds all kinds of real and good to me...if I were into that kind of thing.
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    12:06 AM

    @Maloon-Rouge: My thoughts exactly! The only thing missing from the mix is the MDMA. That bean would cost a pretty penny! (And, you'd end up loving the shit out of that penny.)
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    02:09 AM

    @Maloon-Rouge: fake because it's being sold as E, and if they have any drugs of value in them, they are usually in trace amounts. Some of them have BZP and other dirty shitty drugs in them as well. Gonna dig up the link now.
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    02:10 AM

    @Dirty_Terry: [www.justice.gov] (PDF format, small file size) ECSTASY/PIPERAZINE COMBINATION TABLETS IN NEW YORK
    The DEA Northeast Laboratory received two off-white tablets (see Photo 9)
    depicting Barack Obama on a contoured tablet. Analysis of the tablets (total
    net mass 0.60 gram) by GC/MS, GC/FID and color test indicated
    N-benzylpiperazine (BZP), 1,3-trifloromethylphenylpiperazine (TFMPP),
    3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), procaine, and caffeine.
    This is the first known submission of the Obama logo tablets containing BZP
    to the laboratory.
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    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Face Appears on Blotter Acid
    He's a real trip...
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    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Face Appears on Blotter Acid
    O-bombastic-a ...
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    12/02/09

    In reply to How the Climate Change Summit Will Be Spun
    I'm still trying to figure out what the purpose of the "hoax" is supposed to be.

    Maybe I'm not lurking the right conspiracy sites, but the only thing I've been able to determine, based on a passing Alex Jones quote, is that environmentalism (as a whole?) is an attempt to steal your land. And then... I don't know.

    Can anyone explain to me why anyone could be so angrily against curbing pollution?

    That's what it really boils down to, as far as I can tell. Even if you don't believe that global warming/climate change is real, why would you choose to be against efforts to slow down/half pollution?
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    Image of ConAir34 ConAir34
    12/02/09

    @Voyou_Charmant: It's money and control. It's always money and control.

    The #1 backers for Cap and Trade originally were Goldman Sachs and Enron.

    It creates a whole new derivatives market in Carbon trading.
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    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: Sorry found some more for you

    "$94 billion that HSBC Bank estimates has been spent globally this year on what it calls "green stimulus"—largely ethanol and other alternative energy schemes—of the kind from which Al Gore and his partners at Kleiner Perkins hope to profit handsomely."

    That is from a WSJ article.

    It's always money and control.
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    Image of The Van Buren Boys The Van Buren Boys
    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: Last I checked, none of the organizations you cited actually do any research. Yes there are some opportunists but that doesn't change physics
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    12/02/09

    @The Van Buren Boys: But the only reason this business exists is due to tis research. Not to mention grants. From that same WSJ article.

    "Consider the case of Phil Jones, the director of the CRU and the man at the heart of climategate. According to one of the documents hacked from his center, between 2000 and 2006 Mr. Jones was the recipient (or co-recipient) of some $19 million worth of research grants, a sixfold increase over what he’d been awarded in the 1990s.

    Why did the money pour in so quickly? Because the climate alarm kept ringing so loudly: The louder the alarm, the greater the sums. And who better to ring it than people like Mr. Jones, one of its likeliest beneficiaries?"
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    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: cause only oil companies can profit handsomely right? Only carbon-based energy companies get all the "money and control"? Cause if you're a green company, you're trying to "force" me to consume something I'm not used to!?! Quelle horreur!

    If these energy companies are so scared of lost profits, maybe they should invest in "green" technologies too. It's not anyone else's problem but their own that they put all their eggs into a non-renewable resource.
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    Image of The Van Buren Boys The Van Buren Boys
    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: You're citing an editorial article in the Wall Street Journal. Not exactly a bastion of objectivity. MONEY DOESN'T CHANGE PHYSICS. Gravity doesn't exists because someone gave Isaac Newton money. Christ...
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    Image of ConAir34 ConAir34
    12/02/09

    @Helio: Enron was another big backer of earlier Cap and Trade legislation. Think on that for a minute.

    You seem to think it is more noble for "green" companies to make money based off of bad research than oil companies.

    "Green" technology will be embraced when it can produce cheaper and better energy. Technology still needs to catch up to that.
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    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: I should have said earlier that I wasn't pro-cap and trade, precisely for the reason you cited (that it creates yet another derivatives market) but where did I say anything about green companies being more noble? I just prefer there be more options available. What's wrong with diversifying the ways we power our lives?

    Furthermore, it seemed to me that you, or whoever your friends are that are concerned over "money and control," are not acknowledging that energy companies already have substantial "money and control" yet you (or they) defend them in spite of this new technology. Sure, it may be expensive/inefficient now, but the price of oil will only go up, and once it reaches $100, will I hear you bitching about windfall profits from Exxon Mobil?
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    Image of ConAir34 ConAir34
    12/02/09

    @Helio: I am not really trying to defend energy companies. I just don't want Cap and Trade type legislation to emerge and I am very tired of global warming talk.

    If oil goes up again Americans will respond as we did before and stop using as much. There are vast amounts of untapped oil and gas we would need to use up before this becomes a real worry.
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    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: I'm just hoping we'll discover some workable energy alternatives before we ruin the earth trying to wring out every last drop of crude.
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    12/02/09

    @Helio: I am sure we will. 100 years ago we had no idea what would provide a good amount of power (nuclear). 100 years from now imagine how different it will be.
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    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: You understand that this is what virtually every scientist in the country does, right? They are all competing for grant money in order to pay for their projects, so they write grant requests in order to make their cases. To argue that "ringing the alarm" (i.e. stating your case) implies that you are ginning it all up, simply because there's project money to be gotten for doing so, is specious at best. I mean, was this scientist pocketing the money and buying mansions with it? Where is the impropriety here?
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    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: Of course, part of finding and developing new energy sources is criticizing the unsuitability, or noting the winding down, of current ones. In order to understand that we need something new, we first have to understand how what we have right now is insufficient.
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    12/02/09

    @skt.smth: I have no problem with criticisms. I agree with many of them.

    I do have problems with made up fairy tale criticisms. That is the difference here.

    People are/will be trying to find affordable alternate energy sources because there is a ton of money in it.

    Currently wind/solar/geothermal etc.. just isn't up to snuff yet and this country has an uncommon fear of anything nuclear so that's out.

    Once again my only real problem here is that this science (or lack thereof) has been flawed but policy has been made and legislation written based off of these flawed conclusions.
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    12/02/09

    @ConAir34: What are the fairy tale criticisms? Set global warming entirely aside, even though it's quite real and is happening. Urban centers always have staggering asthma rates thanks to air pollution. With or without global warming, it's not safe for anybody to be breathing in massive amounts of this crap. It is a genuine health risk. That anybody would think, well global warming doesn't exist, therefore there are absolutely no problems with carbon emissions, is what really pisses me off. 1) Because it's not true. And 2) because it completely disregards all of the other non-global warming problems related to carbon emissions.
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    02:19 AM

    @skt.smth: You want to work on air quality issues then that is a different subject and requires a different discussion on it's own.

    They are arguing this legislation based on climate change. That is the fairy tale.
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    04:39 AM

    @ConAir34: But climate change isn't a fairy tale. So, uhh. You have no point.
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    10:21 AM

    @skt.smth: Then you can surely prove it right?

    No you can't. Which is the whole point here.

    Your belief in AGW right now is as factually correct as someone believing that Jesus did it.
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    10:25 AM

    @ConAir34: Is Enron lobbying for climate change legislation from beyond the corporate grave?

    Honestly, at best your argument is that it's better to side with Exxon Mobil and Shell instead of finance firms who stand to profit by investing in new markets/fields/products.

    You're talking gibberish.

    The WSJ is hardly a bastion of unbias information and so what if people who back alternative energy stand to profit? Once again, all you're saying it's its better for the oil industry to profit than those on the side of alternative/renewable energy.
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    10:48 AM

    @ConAir34: They were an energy company. You can try and paint the alternative energy movement as evil because of people who took an interest in it, but it's, as is everything you're asserting, nonsense.

    Enron was run by crooks who did everything to make/steal as much money as possible. If this means investing in emerging markets and products, so be it, they also helped get Davis kicked out of office by manipulating the energy supply to California, they tried to find ways to invest in the weather.

    Saying something like "Enron was supported it so..... it must be corrupt" It's like saying "Mark Foley is a Republican so..." does that mean all Republicans want to fuck teenage boys? No, obviously not.

    So far your whole argument is some murky concept of control and money based on guilt by loose association.

    This may be your best quote as it illustrates your utter lack of understanding: ""Green" technology will be embraced when it can produce cheaper and better energy. Technology still needs to catch up to that. "

    How do you think the technology catches up? I'll help: It's through investment and research.
    Do you think technology is just an organism that evolves (shit, do you deny evolution too?) over time all on it's own and doesn't cost anything? It's something that requires thousands and millions and billions of dollars of research over time.

    You sound absolutely ridiculous.
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    10:52 AM

    @ConAir34: And just to add insult to injury; this headline: Group promoting climate skepticism has extensive ties to Exxon-Mobil

    [rawstory.com]
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    12/02/09

    In reply to How the Climate Change Summit Will Be Spun
    Climate change is real. Deniers are either delusional or paid by the people who are causing the problem.
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    12/02/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: I absolutely agree but the message can get lost on those who need to heed it most when those delivering it are shown to talk the talk, but not walk the walk, as the Times article shows.
    Christ, I am having cabbage for dinner.
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    12/02/09

    @Buttafooco: The proof of the bad intentions of the deniers is this: if some portion of global warming is part of a natural cycle, shouldn't that make us redouble our efforts to keep from adding to it?
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    12/02/09

    @Buttafooco: The proof of the bad intentions of the deniers is this: if some portion of global warming is part of a natural cycle, shouldn't that make us redouble our efforts to keep from adding to it?
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    12/02/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: apparently, many don't share the notion that we should sometimes nip things in the bud......rather, they prefer to wait until the point of no return. Unfortunately, having read some of the cap and trade proposals, there are way too many loopholes for exploitation by corporations.
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    12/02/09

    In reply to How the Climate Change Summit Will Be Spun
    The Times actually has an interesting article about this, and the characters featured come out looking quite bad.

    [women.timesonline.co.uk]
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    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Afghanistan Speech: More Poetry, Less Terror
     
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    12/02/09

    In reply to Obama's Afghanistan Speech: More Poetry, Less Terror
    How about bringing back the draft? Since we are so concerned about fighting terrorists perhaps we should all pitch in, no? Nothing swifter to start an antiwar movement.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Obama's Afghanistan Speech: More Poetry, Less Terror
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    12/01/09

    @#c17235242:
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Obama's Afghanistan Speech: More Poetry, Less Terror
    I'm always fascinated by how they fold the US coat of arms flag during these landmark presidential speeches.

    Since that flag symbolizes the United States' theoretically equanimous stance toward war and peace, displaying it a certain way is very symbolic. Note how the olive branches are herewith displayed higher than the arrows; furthermore, in the televised tight closeup of Obama, only the olive branches are visible. Despite the proposed surge in troops, the mise en scène subliminally reinforces a message of peace.
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    12/02/09

    @snugbug: Excellent reading of the scene. It reminds me of that time when Colin Powell gave that speech before the UN about Iraq and they covered Picasso's Guernica because it would have otherwise made the scene so cinematically horrific that everyone would have run for the doors. The worst part is how Colin Powell later realized that he delivered an impassioned speech based on a tissue of lies. I remember how everyone serious back then listened to that speech to make up their minds. The international studies director of my university at the time had the speech on while I was in her office. Oh, such deluded people not to intuit that everything the Bush administration said was utter bullshit.
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    Image of NorthernLite NorthernLite
    12/01/09

    In reply to Obama's Afghanistan Speech: More Poetry, Less Terror
    So, to sum up: We'll probably have no government healthcare insurance, I see steps being taken toward tighter controls on a woman's right to choose, no improvement on the same-sex marriage front and an endless war in Mesopotamia.

    I'm so glad the Republicans aren't in power anymore.

    Oh well, at least in a few more years I can add: "Younguns, I remember a time when we weren't at war in the Middle East" to my "I'm So Old That ..." list.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Hates Jesus, Christmas, and Charlie Brown
    Oh, c'mon. "The Presidential Address To Extend Mideast War Another Year" is a perennial favorite at our house. The kids love it!
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