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The Beatrice Inn Diaspora
Civetta Is Not the New Beatrice
The Smell of Death Lingers Over New York Hipster Clubs
A Brief History of New York Hot Spots
After Fashion's Night Out, An Open Letter to Mary-Kate Olsen
'Save The Beatrice Inn' Movement Not Very Successful
Saving The Beatrice Inn Is NYC's Most Pressing Issue
The Beatrice Thinks It's Coming Back
The Death of the Beatrice Inn
Beatrice Inn Shut Down, Skinny Cokeheads Left to Wander Streets

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A Message To Rudy
12/17/09

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Tell me they weren't dancing in that photo, because that semi-pointer finger would be too Travoltaish.
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transomist
12/17/09

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Bummed to hear this about White Slab. That place actually gets some great DJs (real DJs, not of the Alexandra Richards/Matt Levine/Sam Ronson ilk) to play its back room. Hopefully the Bea Fleas won't ruin that.
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She_of_the_Socks
12/17/09

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That I've never been to, much less heard about, any of these places makes me feel really good about myself.
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elinorwhyme
12/17/09

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Well the Civetta windows have been papered over for two weeks now, but I never see any workmen going in or out, and the plants outside are wilting and dying from not being watered. I guess Sevigny et al don't care about curb appeal for the time being. But the place next door on the corner of Mulberry and Kenmare--a dessert bar?--is about to open finally. Looks dark and cosy.
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elinorwhyme
12/17/09

@elinorwhyme: And then when I walked by a few hours ago men with a van were removing the planters outside. Maybe I've done my part for plant rescue?
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contradicto
12/17/09

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God, I hate feet.
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MeredithFMurphy
12/17/09

@contradicto: Agreed.

And I hate it even more when too-long toes hang over the fronts of sandals. Get shoes that fit, people.
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Miss Anita Manbadly
12/17/09

@MeredithFMurphy: Oh no, not hand-feet, where the toes curl over the front end of the shoe as if they were fingers. That is usually the sign of a ladyboy who shops at one of those shoe stores where the merchandise is all crafted from vinyl and cardboard.
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TheologicalSong
12/17/09

In reply to The Beatrice Inn Diaspora
the expression hipster should go the way of douchebag around these parts. similarly, have a Hipster of the Decade contest and be done with it. when the word starts to be used lazily, blandly, and without any regard to etymology or derivation, it's time to retire it.
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A Message To Rudy
12/17/09

@TheologicalSong: Give 'em a break. They only used the word "hipster" once in this article after vowing to wean themselves off of it. I think that's pretty darn commendable.
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Varnsen
12/17/09

@TheologicalSong: I don't understand the word-retiring movement. It reminds me of something I read in a student newspaper saying "scarves are out." They're not if you're cold and as long as there are hipsters, the word will have a purpose.
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TheologicalSong
12/17/09

@A Message To Rudy: my screed was directed at commenters as well.
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TheologicalSong
12/17/09

@Varnsen: see above.
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TheologicalSong
12/17/09

@TheologicalSong: ironic should be retired, too. or people should be expected to use the word with some rigor, and vigor.
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metoometoo
12/17/09

@Varnsen: Unlike the word "hipster," a scarf serves a practical function. "Hipster" and "douchebag" once described something specific, but now they are meaningless, and have become a crutch that allows the speaker/writer to comment without actually articulating anything.

@TheologicalSong: Although it is often misused, the word "irony" still has a concrete meaning, and thus, a practical application. But I do wish people would stop throwing it around incorrectly instead of figuring out what it is they are actually trying to say.
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TheologicalSong
12/17/09

@metoometoo: precisely.
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A Message To Rudy
12/17/09

@TheologicalSong: How can "ironic" be retired? You can quibble about "hipster", but if something is ironic, then it's ironic. There's usually no quibbling about it. Retire "sarcastic", then, while your at it.
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A Message To Rudy
12/17/09

@metoometoo: I don't think "hipster" ever described anything specific. Even in its very old origins, there was no prototypical hipster. For every person with a black turtleneck and black beret there was a Jack Kerouac. Then, as today, the term encompasses a variety of traits that when combined together in some form, denotes a "hipster". Just as there is no concrete "hip hopper", "yuppie", etc., there's no specific "hipster" but merely someone who has elements of that image. I guess people are just looking for an easy handle. At least I think so.
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TheologicalSong
12/17/09

@A Message To Rudy: ironic is often used to depict popcultural archness. stretches the meaning to the point of banality, and enervates the word's potency. people should employ words with a sense of respect to the etymology. that was my intended message to you, Rudy.
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A Message To Rudy
12/17/09

@TheologicalSong: So you're more peeved at the incorrect usage more than anything else. I can understand that.
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TheologicalSong
12/17/09

@A Message To Rudy: peeved might be a strong word! I'm hoping you caught my English Beat reference!
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FitnessMadeSimple
12/17/09

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Wait, what's wrong with Makers Mark? Did that become a hipster drink while I wasn't looking?? Please tell me that's not the case.
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hamburgerhotdog
12/17/09

@FitnessMadeSimple: Kinda sorta.
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Perhaps Not
12/17/09

@FitnessMadeSimple: Maker's Mark will always be OK. Kentucky and I promise you this.
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FitnessMadeSimple
12/17/09

@Perhaps Not: Thank you and bless your heart.
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
12/17/09

@FitnessMadeSimple: Isn't Makers Mark the top-selling brand of bourbon? To be truly hipster in your whiskey choice, you'd have to go with Rye.
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FitnessMadeSimple
12/17/09

@Botswana Meat Commission FC: I'm not sure...though I wouldn't be surprised. At any rate, bourbon just doesn't seem very hipster to me. I would think hipsters would go for Jameson. Though I don't have a good reason for thinking that.
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Perhaps Not
12/17/09

@FitnessMadeSimple: Fuck you, too. Wait, sorry, translator slipped: Jesus loves you.
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FitnessMadeSimple
12/17/09

@Perhaps Not: That totally went over my head.
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Perhaps Not
12/18/09

@FitnessMadeSimple: Oh, sorry. "Bless your heart" is so often something said after a cruel remark ("She's just ugly and stupid, bless her heart") that among us Southern expats it's become slang for "drop dead." Bless your heart, Sarah Palin!
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FitnessMadeSimple
12/18/09

@Perhaps Not: ooooh, no no. I didn't mean it that way. I meant it in the literal sense.
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raincoaster
12/17/09

In reply to The Beatrice Inn Diaspora
Are you sure that's a photo of the right place? I don't see any little baggies on the floor.
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richardmarxhatesmyhair
12/17/09

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Man, this photo should have a big red line through it. All these bad shoes and worse feet.
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momof3wildkids
12/17/09

@richardmarxhatesmyhair: Perhaps they should click on the annoying spam ad below about Uggs to buy something to cover those paws up.

I hate that ugg boot ad with every fiber in my being.
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Maura Johnston
12/17/09

@richardmarxhatesmyhair: Co-sign. I thought that was a picture of a club on Long Island at first...
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City_Dater
12/17/09

@richardmarxhatesmyhair:

And the dress that's really a blouse with those legs -- ack!

This photo should be captioned "no mirror, no friends..."
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richardmarxhatesmyhair
12/17/09

@City_Dater: and what is up with the guy and his cleary just came from his nose pointer finger. Gahhhhhhh!
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andheartss haz it
11/04/09

In reply to The Smell of Death Lingers Over New York Hipster Clubs
So..how long until the hipster hate trend goes away?

It's just as annoying.

In other news, I've been called a hipster a handful of times (by douches) and I've never stepped foot in the Beatrice Inn or Jane Hotel.

I prefer local smelly dives. And alleyways. #beatriceinn
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A Message To Rudy
11/04/09

@andheartss haz it: "I prefer local smelly dives."

And thus, the "hipster" tag, however unfair. #beatriceinn
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downwithdebbie
11/04/09

@A Message To Rudy: I don't get this. Liking cheap beer that is close to my apartment makes me a 'hipster'? #beatriceinn
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BicycleShed
11/04/09

@andheartss haz it: when Armond White uses "hipster" and "hipsterism" to condemn every movie and every director he doesn't like and when his usages of the words from one "review" to the next contradict one another, I think we can all agree it's high time for a moratorium on those words. Some may be loathe to admit it, but Madonna got it right when she told us that words go off, lose their meaning and don't function anymore. #beatriceinn
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A Message To Rudy
11/04/09

@downwithdebbie: No, it doesn't. That, combined with other factors, is how people determine a "hipster" (and why anyone would like a "smelly" bar is another issue. The quest for some sort of "authenticity"?). I like cheap beer and places that are close to me too, so I'm not opposed to going to an area sports/frat boy bar when they have drink specials. I don't necessarily like the crowd, but like you said, the beer is cheap so why not go there? Just speaking from personal experience here in Chicago, but it seems to be more about atmosphere than "cheap beer". It's cheaper to drink at home, but I understand wanting to commune with like-minded souls.

The evolution of a divey hipster bar: 1) Old man bar with a few elderly neighborhood patrons and one scratchy TV in the corner is "discovered" by passing "hipsters" one day; 2) they tell a few friends, post on their blog, etc. about the "cool old jukebox" with Johnny Cash and the cheap old school beer (Schlitz, PBR, etc.); 3) "hipster" crowd becomes weekend late night regulars - old patrons still frequent the establishment in the day time but now are gone by 8 p.m. since their regular stools are starting to get occupied earlier and earlier; 4) bar owner notices trend, hires young woman with moderate to extensive tattoos to work the weekend late night shift; 5) one of the new "regulars" convinces the bar owner - whom he now calls by his or her first name - to let his band play there one Saturday night; 6) former regulars can't stand the noise and stop coming; 7: full-blown hipster bar.

Like I said, just personal observation. #beatriceinn
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A Message To Rudy
11/04/09

@BicycleShed: It's just a "tag", like hiphopper, Deadhead, metalhead, etc. Madonna is wrong (and I think taking linguistic advice from Madonna is wrong too): Words ALWAYS function. It's just that the function sometimes changes. #beatriceinn
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shostakobitch
11/04/09

@andheartss haz it: Totally feel your pain. i prefer the bushes around the periphery of interstate rest stops and people keep calling me a hipster too. goddamn douches. #beatriceinn
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BicycleShed
11/04/09

@A Message To Rudy: I guess one person's "tag" is another's Madonna example word that's gone off and lost its meaning. Such is life I suppose. Anyway, strike a pose!

Wait...actually. Don't strike a pose. Instead I wish you a violently happy day because I think that linguistic advice may have been sung by Madonna, but was written by Bjork.
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muppet_baby
11/04/09

@BicycleShed: And the video is just ten different kinds of fucked up. #beatriceinn
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BicycleShed
11/04/09

@muppet_baby: ten different kinds of fucked up AND a fucking sunflower, which was required in seemingly every video made at the time. Or maybe the sunflower is included in the ten? #beatriceinn
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Parah_Salin
11/04/09

@shostakobitch: When I'm sippin' my soothin' syrup, I prefer sitting around a garbage can with an open fire going, singing hobo songs with my tramp friends. I've been called a hipster grifter hobo, but I have a thick, calloused skin, so it don't sting a bit. Occasionally, I'm also called a tramp, and that hurts, but only because it's true. #beatriceinn
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shostakobitch
11/04/09

@Parah_Salin:
@andheartss haz it:
2 hours of pushin broom gets a
8 by 12 four bit room
i'm a
man of means by no means

king of the road #beatriceinn
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Parah_Salin
11/05/09

@A Message To Rudy: One of the best bars I ever went to was an old Irish bar on the Upper West Side around 1985. I thought it was the strangest mix of people I'd ever seen in my life, ole timey Irish drunks, some college kids, working people, stoners etc...There was an ancient black man serving the drinks and whenever we wanted a drink someone would scream "MMMMAAAAAAAXXXX" like in that old Carol Burnett skit where she's playing Gloria Swanson in Sunset Boulevard, and he'd amble over and take our drink order. I mentioned to the table that I hadn't smoked any good hash in 10 years, and that it was a shame people weren't willing to go to Turkey and face long jail sentences for trafficking in hash anymore (lazy hippies). This one guy at the table says "I have something I'd like to show you, could you follow me? That phrase rarely ends well for me, but I followed him through a kitchen, into another building, down some dark stairs and into a basement with a few stoners smoking hash and listening to Led Zeppelin. There was even a pool table and a bar in the basement. Next time I find an opium den masquerading as an ole timey Irish bar I'll try to remember to get the name of the place. #beatriceinn
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DevilsAvocadoRedux
11/04/09

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Old hipsters invariably need replacing. #beatriceinn
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Parah_Salin
11/04/09

@DevilsAvocadoRedux: I wish you kids would stay off my lawn AND out of my closet. Come up with your own damn trends. #beatriceinn
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DevilsAvocadoRedux
11/04/09

@Parah_Salin: C'mon - vintage is the only thing that keeps the crusties relevant. #beatriceinn
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SuperBien
10/17/09

In reply to A Brief History of New York Hot Spots
Polly Esther's On First Ave . . . #bungalow8
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SarahHeartburn
10/17/09

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Hurrah? (yes I am old). #bungalow8
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SarahHeartburn
10/17/09

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Sigh for Danceteria. BUT....tears of yearning for Downtown Beirut and King Tut's Wah-Wah Hut. #bungalow8
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Carol Gardens
10/17/09

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For me, Peppermint Lounge (the first one). Also, Area has been turned into condos, I believe. #bungalow8
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