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Perhaps Not
06/29/09

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Video has been taken down. Can somebody repost?
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Joe Mitchell's Secret
06/29/09

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He probably made sure he was paid for this interview too. Fucking old bastard. He's responsible for those three kids now? As if their emotional doom is not overdetermined enough.
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Novaload
06/29/09

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A genuinely insane man. I would hate to be standing between him and the money to be made from Michael's death and legacy.
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shortskid
06/29/09

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I cant even bear to watch that clip.

I remember watching a Jackson family bio pic on ABC when I was a kid and at the time thanking God for not having my dad in my life. Because if he was anything remotely close to Joe Jackson it was clearly not worth having him in my life in the first place.
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jasonelias
06/29/09

@shortskid: I was watching that today, I've seen it a good 7 or 8 times. Joe was worse than that--and that was bad.
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jasonelias
06/29/09

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Oh god. It just occurred to me that a sick and out of it Michael Jackson was a cash liability and having him gone means he's a hot property again. Yuck. Saw the same thing with Elvis. He was a big sweaty thing, forgetting his lyrics declining by the minute. Once he was gone, he took off again.

That's probably why Joe is smiling.
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intime
06/29/09

@jasonelias: Oh, God....you are right. I hadn't thought of that. That evil man has outlived him and will now try to profit off of his death. Keep those children away from him!
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jasonelias
06/30/09

@intime: Oh yeah definitely. We don't need another generation of kids broken by Joe and Katherine. Good lord, could you imagine?
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boozeshaman
06/29/09

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The autopsy should reveal that this man turned his son into a castrato at a young age, which explains the "childlike" nature of MJ, the asexuality and, of course, the voice, which is what it was all about in the first place.

Honestly, I heard the rumor of MJ's childhood castration a few years ago, and it still carries loads of explanatory power.
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Schm
06/29/09

@boozeshaman: Whoa. Interesting theory. That would also explain why Liza Minelli said "all hell is going to break loose when the autopsy results come back." I thought that was sort of a strange thing to say, seeing how a drug overdose isn't the most atypical or controversial way to go out.
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Lazy Susan
06/28/09

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Well here's the scary bit - he wants custody of the fortune...
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andheartss haz it
06/29/09

@Lazy Susan: He's got Blue Ray technology to peddle, man!
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Lazy Susan
06/29/09

@andheartss haz it: And who better than two little Princes and a less remarkable girl child to do it.
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maude_flanders
06/28/09

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Is there any dispute Joe Jackson beat the hell out of his sons? (Why didn't Katherine stop it? Did she know? Was she scared of Joe too? Or was it that she didn't want to split up the family?)

Considering that MJ's kids are going to live with the grandparents, why should Jackson's children be around this man? (Or are the kids just going to Katherine, who, while flawed, did NOT abuse her kids?)

What a sad, wasted, twisted life that angelic-voiced kid ended up having. I don't think Joe ever disputed the abuse either...well, I guess you can give Joe credit for THAT, not laying on bullshit trying to cover up what he did. Maybe not much credit, if he doesn't see it as "abuse" or amiss parenting, something to be ashamed of.
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Steverino Begins
06/28/09

@maude_flanders: Agreed, I'm really worrid about those kids being under Joe's care. He's a monster. People thought MJ was the monster, but I think the details that will emerge will show how protective he was of them (sometimes in his own misguided way, like those crazy masks and veils).

It's telling that MJ's will apparently leaves the children to Katherine, no mention of Joe.
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Muggs Bigglesworth
06/28/09

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I'm not sure any one of us would know what it feels like to lose a son, much less, a man as troubled and complicated as Michael Jackson. I mean, judge not, right?
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Lazy Susan
06/28/09

@Muggs Bigglesworth: Well where's the fun in that?
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Muggs Bigglesworth
06/29/09

@Lazy Susan: I would imagine they have a strange, tortured relationship. Without his push, Michael may never have found comfort in the stage. So, I don't know, it's so fucking sad, losing someone so influential because he had clearly lost control of himself. I have a theory, that the younger you reach fame, the closer you get to the white hot light of the public eye, and the faster it warps you. Michael set the standard for this, although Britney had a similar, if not altogether different, experience later on.

It's just so fucking sad. The fact that he made him do music at such a young age, the fact that he died, and the fact that this.
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Lazy Susan
06/29/09

@Muggs Bigglesworth: I was, of course, being facetious about 'judgement' - probably because I think Joe Jackson is a fully fledged evil prick; a vain, malicious, talentless tyrant who should never be allowed anywhere near children. This has nothing to do with Michael's talent, or the stardom he found early... the Osmond's survived the same brilliant glare - the big difference (as it is with a number of child stars including Britney) is the quality of the parenting they received.
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VoxPopuli
06/28/09

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Oh, Don, you should have been wearing a vest. You could have used an all-day hug after that interview.

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Gawkchalk
06/28/09

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If I go before my parents, I hope my parents can express themselves through a publicist to my friends and fans. Oh and YOU can bet there will be my fans there.
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BookishLookish
06/29/09

@Gawkchalk: "I'll Be There"
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uncivilly obedient
06/28/09

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He is doing great and his family is doing reaaly well!

He just lost the a star not his son!

He needs a stranger to tell everyone his feelings while he is standing right there!

He wishes Michael was around to heat his own eulogies!

He went to an award show with an attorney!

He doesn't want to heat about his son when he's got records to promote!

What a great dad!
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uncivilly obedient
06/28/09

@uncivily obedient: (Sorry for all the typos. Forgot to proofread)
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Wrapitup
06/28/09

@uncivily obedient: No, your anger is understandable. This is such shitty parenting.
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VoxPopuli
06/28/09

@uncivily obedient: An attorney AND a publicist, too. I'd chalk it up to shock or senility if it weren't for the shilling and calling the lawyer to his side, etc.
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BookishLookish
06/28/09

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Don Lemon is foin.
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VoxPopuli
06/28/09

@BookishLookish: Yup. I have definitely noticed that before.

And composed - I would never try to play cards against that guy. Straight face the whole time during that interview when he must have been thinking "WTF is wrong this guy...but hey, this is actually a more telling interview than if this guy just answered my damn questions."
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mimilove
06/28/09

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Did anyone else find it odd that when Lemon asked him about his son's death, his very first response wasn't about how he and the family were devastated, but that the world had lost the biggest star. He wasn't a son to Joe--he was a commodity. Oh, what the world of pop has lost, rather than what his family has lost. I've always felt gradients of sadness for Michael Jackson, but now I see that his story is a devastating tragedy.
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jasonelias
06/28/09

@mimilove: Joe's a sick man, he always has been. He's narcissistic, sadistic, whatever "isitic" that's really weird? That's Joe
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The Cajun Boy
06/28/09

@mimilove: No, I caught the same thing and actually wrote about it in the post, only to delete thinking that maybe I was being too hard on him. That really jumped out at me though. Should have followed my instinct on that one.
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unclevanya
06/28/09

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I missed this moment -- I was flipping around, and caught Don Lemon telling Chaka Khan that she duetted with MJ (actually, DJs had done a mashup of her remake of a J5 song, as she corrected him), after which he coaxed her to start singing it live on the red carpet. She nervously obliged, probably fearing a backlash on live TV. Shuddery.
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