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    Image of Bos'un's Mate Bos'un's Mate
    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    What does MARK KLEIN, M.D. have to say about any of this?
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    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    I don't normally like blogs like this, but Maira Kalman's blog is something that I'm adding to my list.

    I think one a month is enough. There is a lot there to digest.
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    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    No joke: The F1 blog is my favorite NYT blog. It would be a shame if they pulled the plug.
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    12/03/09

    @Maxichamp: You just saved it. The plug won't be pulled on any blog that at least one person considers "a favorite."
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    Image of Ryan Tate Ryan Tate
    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    Pogue's videos are awesome, one of the best uses of video on a newspaper website.

    That said his "I am not a journalist" thing is total bullshit.
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    Image of GreyGander GreyGander
    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    Dot Earth, being a shill for the AGW warmists, just has to stay, it just HAS to!
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    Image of Phyllis Nefler Phyllis Nefler
    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    If you ever want your heart to break, head over to the Times' migraine blog. It is called Migraine: Perspectives on a Headache. The comments section is consistently devastating.

    Also, remember when the Gawker tag "The New York Times is just a fancy blog" was like, a futuristic neg?
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    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    You don't think they'd cut the Gambit chess blog, do you? Do you?!
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    Image of sarrible sarrible
    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    They'll never kill Motherlode. That whiny bitchfest has legs.
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    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    I'm not old either, but the typos drive me fucking nuts. Nuts!

    - Calendar. Not calender.
    - Strunk and White wrote "The Elements of Style," not "Element of Styles."
    - Hillary Clinton is not a dude. Her first name has two Ls, not one.

    (+1 if you're trying to make people think Gawker has been outsourced to Mumbai. )
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    Image of Adrian Chen Adrian Chen
    12/03/09

    @flavorflav: thank you!
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    12/03/09

    @flavorflav: OK, fine. But did you ever think about the fine Mumbai-Americans whose ambitions to night-edit Gawker you've just crushed like Deep-Fried Tandori Chicken with your cruel reference?!
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    12/03/09

    In reply to Handicapping the Impending New York Times Blog Massacre
    I'm not old, but I want that cane. Who'd fuck with you when you were carrying that thing?

    Also, the CBC would probably buy the blog about hockey.
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Manhattan Media Elite Bravely Stand Up to Private School Where All Their Kids Go
    Practice. Preach. #dalton
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Manhattan Media Elite Bravely Stand Up to Private School Where All Their Kids Go
    Editors at The Daltonian were too coked up to comment, but did point out that their private tutors had basically written the story so why don't you go ask THEM and get out of their fucking FACES for ONCE because they didn't INVENT THE WORLD. #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @sanyucat: "sanyucat was starred" just about sums that up. #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @Astigmatism: Aww, sanks! #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @sanyucat: You sound awfully familiar. #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @raincoaster: I'm pretty sure I don't know you, but what's interesting is the paranoia I am now experiencing. Are you peeking in my bedroom window? Are you closer than that? ARE YOU MY DOG? #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @sanyucat: you just remind me of my co-blogger, Plumcake. #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @raincoaster: Oh, that is nice. #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @sanyucat: Well, it IS a compliment. #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @sanyucat: I see I screwed up the link. Here it is

    [manolobig.com] #dalton
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    11/12/09

    @raincoaster: It is a compliment for sure. #dalton
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    Image of brennanmceachran brennanmceachran
    11/02/09

    In reply to The Great Newspaper Firewall Is Coming. And?
    It'd be nice to see a online news paper really shake things up and not run itself like every other news blog. I mean, the hard truth is that the news will be online for free... So if the big guys hide behind pay-walls a large majority of surfers will be thrown to different websites. New big guys will pop up and become huge, if they can find a way of making money with online news. Be warned, there will be news pirates, aswell...

    But I mean why does the NYT have to run like a standard site? Radically change it up, maybe more like fastflip, maybe not. But something unique, with extremely relevant ads. It could work
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    11/03/09

    @brennanmceachran: I know a fellow trying this at Vancouverite.com but of course like everyone else, he's struggling with the model. He's the best investigative reporter on the west coast, though, so he DOES have an advantage. #newspapers
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    11/02/09

    In reply to The Great Newspaper Firewall Is Coming. And?
    It was Sulzberger, who may or may not be the heroic pilot who dumped into the Hudson, who nailed the dilemma square on. Only nobody caught it. He said the Titanic was not done in by icebergs, but rather by the Wright Brothers nine years before.

    He should know. He's the Captain Smith of this Titanic. #newspapers
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    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    11/02/09

    In reply to The Great Newspaper Firewall Is Coming. And?
    I've felt queasy reading about all the Times layoffs because I've been completely guilty of reading everything, refused to pay for Times Select, then I get to see the fallout of reporter blood-letting practically in real-time.

    If "crafty people" get news for free, then you will eventually just get crappy news. There isn't quality "free" reporting like, say, Watergate or even the recent Times Magazine on the hospital triage during Katrina.

    My friends in magazine and newspapers have lost a LOT, and it is because I and so many others just want it free.

    It was a huge error in judgement for newspapers to value "eyeballs" over "payment". The online ad thing doesn't pay for a huge newsroom. They might as well try pay firewalls and screw the "get the eyeballs and the ads will come and pay for most everything" failed methodology.

    If you own a business, you'll take a paying, small audience over large group of freeloaders any day. #newspapers
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    11/02/09

    @FormerEnglishMajor: Had a relevant discussion, which I remember because not many were. A certain author of best selling romance fiction said she had rather sell books than have them read. I asked, you have maybe thirty million books in print in several langauges; rather than six bux a throw, would you rather have thirty trillion readers for free?

    Her reply was quite clever, but you know writers.

    "No." #newspapers
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    11/02/09

    @FormerEnglishMajor: Beautifully put. The trouble with newspapers--and with magazine companies like Conde--is that the old guard had blinders on and never understood how big the web would be, or that it would be a rival to print; rather, they saw it as a way to promote the print version, and the print version, in their belief, would be the version uber alles. It was short-sighted and foolish, but then that is the way of newspapers. Unfortunately, we need them, because as you, Former, and others have pointed out, bloggers are great but they don't have the resources to dig deep and investigate the big stories. That takes money.

    And now, because you and I and others have had a free ride, the old media doesn't have the money to do what needs to be done. Foreign bureaus are closing, local staffs are cut, and major cities are threatened with not having a newspaper at all, let alone more than one so there can be different voices. If there is a no money to do what needs to be done journalistically, and no experienced people left to do it, the bad guys win. And that means the rest of lose. #newspapers
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