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NigelAstydameia
10/05/09

In reply to The Seinfeld Reunion Will Spell the Death of Meta
I REALLY hope there's some reference to Michael Richards' n-word rant. I can't imagine LD would leave that alone. "It's gold, Jerry--Gold!"
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bytememehard
10/05/09

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The New Adventures of Old Elaine, anyone?
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mharker
10/05/09

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I thought it was well-handled, to be honest. At first I didn't like the commercials that billed it as some kind of sappy reunion show that you knew it wouldn't be, but in retrospect, they worked because on Curb, they were never actually on the Seinfeld set. It did make sure this kind super-meta kind of episode couldn't be replicated, but all in all, it wasn't a bad episode.

Apparently there were peope clamoring for a Seinfeld reunion show (though I don't know any), so they did the closest thing that would still fit the character of both shows. Meta isn't always bad, hipsters.
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The Sneak
10/05/09

@mharker: Except it's not over. This plotline is going to run through the entire season of Curb.
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mharker
10/05/09

@The Sneak: Seriously? Meh, I still trust that they'll do at least a decent job with it.
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thatgirlinnewyork
10/05/09

@mharker: what would a "decent job" of a seinfeld reunion look like?

this is why missing an episode "curb" is becoming a non-issue. if i wanted a whole season of the seinfeld characters' whining, i'd buy a DVD of seinfeld. love me some larry, but no thanks.
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mharker
10/05/09

@thatgirlinnewyork: A decent job would be like the way the last episode was done---very meta, yes, but if you look at the Larry David of Curb as a fictional character with his own world, however much it is based on his real life, it's not as bad as the article above makes it out to be. The last episode dealt more with Larry's desperation to get Cheryl back, even if it meant casting her in a reunion episode, which was always an idea he hated. With the rest of the season, if they emphasize that Larry's basically "selling out" to get his wife back and if it's less about a Seinfeld reunion, I'd consider that decent.
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se7a7n7
10/05/09

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In the not-too-distant future, when NBC is scrounging for new show ideas, Seinfeld will be remade with new actors.
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dado
10/05/09

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Oddly enough, I love "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and loathe "Seinfeld." Viscerally. Kramer is never funny. At all.
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CaptainFantastic
10/05/09

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He was the man in a cape. replaces: It's a turtle without its shell.
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TriedandTrue
10/05/09

@CaptainFantastic: It's a sloth, dammit
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Matt Cherette
10/05/09

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For what it's worth:

According to IMDB (and this is probably incomplete, as I only quickly glanced over his credits for Seinfeld), Larry appeared on the show five times in a non-voice only form:

1. On "The Heart Attack" in 1991 as "Screaming B-movie Actor,"

2. on "The Trip: Part 2" in 1992 as "Man in Hallway,"

3. on "The Pilot" in 1993 as "John F. Kennedy, Jr." and "Main in Raft #1,"

4. on "The Chinese Woman" in 1994 as "Man with Cape,"

5. and on "The Gum" in 1995 as "Newsstand Owner."

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Looks like he appeared on about 30 additional episodes in voice-only format.
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terrible
10/05/09

@mattchew03: The majority of that voice work must be as Steinbrenner, right?
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psybab
10/05/09

@mattchew03: He was always the voice of Steinbrenner.
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Brian Moylan
10/05/09

@mattchew03: As opposed to the other four who were in every episode! I have since amended the offending sentence.

And the first person who says that Elaine wasn't in the pilot gets a knuckle sandwich.
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Matt Cherette
10/05/09

@psybab: Where did I say he wasn't?
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Matt Cherette
10/05/09

@Brian Moylan: I know, I know... I didn't mean to be a nitpick. Apologies!
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Matt Cherette
10/05/09

@terrible: Yep. Looks like he voiced Steinbrenner in 13 episodes, voiced other random characters in 19 episodes, and appeared as an uncredited actor in five more.
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NigelAstydameia
10/05/09

@mattchew03: I think he was also the dog in the early episode when Jerry gets stuck with a drunk's dog (which we never see). Woof!
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NigelAstydameia
10/05/09

@mattchew03: And I forgot--he was the man in the cape! Frank Costanza's lawyer.
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MrInBetween
10/05/09

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If I ever own a racehorse, its name will be Faux Jason Alexander.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
10/05/09

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don't want. awful people yelling. ugh.
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blix
10/05/09

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I finally get my head wrapped around "Victor/Victoria" and this happens.
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Artie Fufkin
10/05/09

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Are there really restaurants in CA with pictures of boobs, etc. on the walls? I want to go there.
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bytememehard
10/05/09

@Artie Fufkin: Too bad Cafe des Artistes closed.
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Matt Cherette
10/05/09

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"But Larry David was never on Seinfeld"

Lies! He played George Steinbrenner.
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grrad
10/05/09

@mattchew03:
Technically speaking Brian Moylan is correct: Larry David supplied the voice for George Steinbrenner, he never physically appeared on the show---another dude by the name of Lee Bear was the on-camera actor.

I HATE knowing this, btw.
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graceless
10/05/09

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huh!
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graceless
10/05/09

@graceless: huh?
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Accidental Billionaire
01/23/09

In reply to Why Reality Will Bury Digg's Profit Dreams
Did Digg cause the depression?

1.) Mana pool - Powered by pure venture capitalist gullibility.

2.) Big spender - How many programmers does a topsite script need? Fully-insured, Bonded, American coders? They blow through more cash a year than wikipedia! Where the hell did all this money go? They could have outsourced to India, instead they hired friends in the valley.

3.) Top secret business strategy - Real business's grow incrementally, while others don't. They don't get venture, they grow because they're solid. Instead, let's just inject $10M into that shit.

4.) Userbase - Defective gene pool - The parents of the children that inhabit the site are likely subprime mortgage "Bailout" people.

I feel a resurgence in free market principles coming on. People want to see natural selection have their way. . . You've taken psychology before, you know what defense mechanisms are, all you're going to get is denial.
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Accidental Billionaire
01/23/09

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Christ. Let's be terse.

These worthless seeds swindled gullible venture capitalist to what amounts to giving PHP developers a sandbox.

Digg is nothing. Essentially a PHP version of what we would call a "top site" script in the web 1.0 days. People would click links and "vote" for their favorite sites.

Good idea? Clean website? No one gives a shit. That's not capital. I would have thought people of learned their lesson back in 2000-01.

Web 2.0 taught us all another lesson - users have very little of value contribute other than circus acts and a lot to talk about.
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