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Trai_Dep
11/05/09

In reply to Mickey Mouse's 'Naughty' Makeover Promises to be Disturbing
For The Olds, Warren Spector is something - well, that's not quite correct, he's the personification - of a god* in game-design circles. Very creative, well-respected and accomplished.
Hate the mouse. Love the Spector.

* Damn. How do you embed links with the new Gawker commenting system?
Sigh. Pretend this was cunningly embedded: [www.en.wikipedia.org]
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MissNormaDesmond
11/05/09

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You're basing all this on the presence of the word "naughty"? Seriously? Then, using the same principle of massive extrapolation from absurdly thin evidence, I'm going to assume that if the only context in which you think of the word is a sexual one, it's because of how much porn you watch, and how little of anything else you read. #mickeymouse
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westward ho
11/05/09

@MissNormaDesmond: I thought she was just being funny. (Or should I say "goofy," a-hilk a-hilk!)

It was almost 3 a.m., after all... #mickeymouse
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Alexis
11/05/09

@MissNormaDesmond: The whole article is based on a weird generalization that only he seems to see. I'm just curious how this is considered appropriate for Gawker. This blog usually touches a variety of subjects, but I really don't get it here. I never like to accuse a writer of making an article for the sake of sensationalism (this is Gawker, after all) but what else could this possibly be? It cherrypicks two quotes, one of which is a complete stretch to condemn a game on. I don't wanna bash this guy for not being a gamer, but I will however point out that he should consider doing a little more research before rallying the troops against a game that has a (long) while before a release date. #mickeymouse
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MissNormaDesmond
11/05/09

@westward ho: You may be right, although whether she succeeded at being funny might be something we differ about. It's still kind of a slender reed, either way.
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Alexis
11/05/09

@MissNormaDesmond: Now, I'm really curious if this was supposed to be satire...but, it sort of falls flat. #mickeymouse
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MissNormaDesmond
11/05/09

@Alexis: Well, it's certainly chock-full of tired stereotypes about gamers, anyway. I say this as someone who isn't a gamer by any stretch of the imagination (my daughter blackmails me with threats to post my one attempt at Wii Boxing on Youtube) , just a hater of tired stereotypes wherever they might be found. It's lazy thinking and writing. #mickeymouse
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Alexis
11/05/09

@MissNormaDesmond: As a young, African American, female gamer, your sentiment is much appreciated. #mickeymouse
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Poop Cooper
11/05/09

@MissNormaDesmond: This.

Also, I imagine the worst thing "Naughty Mickey" to do is not wash his hands walking out of the bathroom.

"Make Mickey jaywalk in real time!"

I never would have made the leap to, "See Mickey in our special Hot Coffee edition!"
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quickqueenof
11/05/09

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If "naughty" always has a sexual overtone to you, then that is your issue, not the poor, innocent word's. #mickeymouse
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Lincolnsbeard33
11/05/09

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I don't want to sound rude or mean but perhaps it is best if you stick to subjects you have knowledge about. You completely missed the mark on this one.

It is like Fox news talking about well... anything. #mickeymouse
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Yahweh Took My Prepuce
11/05/09

In reply to Mickey Mouse's 'Naughty' Makeover Promises to be Disturbing
The Kotaku/Gawker crossover here is almost weirder than when io9 and Gawker cross paths.

I think though that effete Manhattanites have the same nerdy sensibilities as fiction-consuming fanboys and gamers, somewhere deep down. But they (i.e., the effete Manhattanites) instead focused the full power of their teenage self-loathing and English/Philosophy/History BA's into getting over it* and developing a Wildean wit.

(I think they're/we're just as broken-- they/we just don't have fun, flashy worlds to hide in. Unless you count 30 Rock. And I do.) #mickeymouse
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eXo
11/05/09

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Ironically, over in the video game world of Kotaku there is a lot of excitement over this game. Past Disney games have never been anything to get excited about, so i don't see the problem with them trying something new. You seem you have focused more on Specter's use of the single word "naughty" than any of the amazing concept art or other information about this potentially interesting game that have been released.

Regardng who came up with the idea, I'm not seeing a lot of creativity coming from the "power players" right not. Movies are generally all reboots/remakes while games are generally all sequels.

Not the best environment to get high and mighty about who is coming up with ideas at the moment. #mickeymouse
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Bristol Cities
11/05/09

And according to wiki: Kotaku is consistently listed in the top 40 pokemon with big boobs of Technorati's Top 100.

And that's all I need to know. #mickeymouse
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eXo
11/05/09

@Bristol Cities: This is very confusing to me. Your saying that Kotaku is a big boobed pokeman that made a top 100 list?

Kotaku is a very intelligent (sister) site, and one of the few on the web that isn't over run by fanboys constantly and pay-per-review advertising.

Whether you agree with their format/opinions or not however has no basis on the rest of my comment which deals directly with Azaria's post. #mickeymouse
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Bristol Cities
11/05/09

@eXo: I meant it as a good thing. To me it is anyway. #mickeymouse
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Perhaps Not
11/05/09

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As creeped out as I am by all this, I will say that I fucking love Warren Spector and will play pretty much anything he puts out there. He's one of a handful of really great designers like Peter Molyneaux and Sid Meier who pioneered a certain kind of in-depth game and I'll be really interested to see what he comes up with (anyone ever play "Deus Ex?" Or "Thief?" Or am I the only uberdweeb here?).
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Asmo
11/05/09

@Perhaps Not: Deus Ex was a masterpiece of a videogame.
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Jackie Yoshi
11/05/09

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Have you heard of Helwein Gottfried? He's done some disturbing images of Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.

It's a long story, but in short it's about how he read Disney comics as an escape from the horrors of WW2 going on around him in Germany. So the good and evil, got jumbled up together somehow.

His picture of Mickey Mouse is creepy. This seems like, Mickey Mouse being mischevious like Bart Simpson. #mickeymouse
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Bristol Cities
11/05/09

@Jackie Yoshi: Everybody knows this guy, consciously or not, from the classic Scorps' record cover for Blackout! #mickeymouse
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Jackie Yoshi
11/19/09

@Bristol Cities: I see, the Scorpions were before my time, I'm 27.
#tips
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unclevanya
11/05/09

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This is Disney. All it means is that Mickey will fart.

He has Sonic's eyes in the pic above. #disney
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hilikusopus
11/05/09

@unclevanya: Seriously. He might even do a 'cat call' (no pun intended). #mickeymouse
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Dr. Nick
11/05/09

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Cue the influx of Kotaku commenters! #disney
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Alexis
11/05/09

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"But the clearest sign of Epic Mickey's rapidly approaching failure is was a bad idea is the fact that it was "dreamed up" by "a group of interns" in 2004."

Because hit games have never come out of "interns" or students. Portal, much?

And the whole video gamers are sweaty, pale sexless nerds thing is played out. You don't want to make a generalization--but there it is in practically the same breath. If you want to hate on this IP at least come up with a good reason (like the fact that a Wii exclusive release could mean potential failure).

Perhaps you should read an actual publication on this game, because thus far, it sounds promising. If you want to hate on an unnecessary "sexy/updated" version of a childhood franchise pick Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland instead. #disney
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lionel-mandrake
11/05/09

@Alexis: Nerd. #disney
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Alexis
11/05/09

@lionel-mandrake: Jock! #mickeymouse
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lionel-mandrake
11/05/09

@Alexis: You better watch out, I'll get you after school. #mickeymouse
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Alexis
11/05/09

@lionel-mandrake: **Breathes into inhaler** #mickeymouse
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lionel-mandrake
11/05/09

@Alexis: Well played. #mickeymouse
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Airvault
11/05/09

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A truly naughty Mickey would use something other than his hands to tell the time on those Disney watches. #disney
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