I tried to explain 4chan to my boss one day -- he shrugged and tried to brush the whole idea off as "just a bunch of kids", so I went and got some of the tech team to back me up.
Once he had ten people in his office all telling him in deadly serious tones that 4chan was not a thing to mess with, he finally got the point.
I can just imagine that any and all nerds in the AT&T offices had the same conversation, but were overruled. I'm sorry that their lives are now going to suck.
LOL 4chan has a couple of distinct groups that are into this sort of thing. There are a few talented haxorz (maybe 100? they don't really like questionnaires) and then thousands of me-too teenage/college bandwagoneers.
Basically the talented peeps have to orchestrate a plan and then herd the me-toos to achieve specific goals.
It's much more difficult than outsiders make it sound. Go teach high school or a 100 level class for more info. Fortunately AT&T made it easy for them by inviting collective hate but if the me-toos get too terroristy the feds might kill the fun.
This should be interesting to see. AT&T is and has been, after all, the classic real-world antagonist of hackers for about as long as computer-to-computer communications has existed. If things go right, Bruce Sterling may be able to tack another chapter onto his brilliant non-fiction book, "The Hacker Crackdown."
They (and others) were also the originators of the Anonymous campaign against Scientology, which started off as 4chan being pissed that $cientology was trying to censor the Tom-Cruise=crazy video.
4chan isn't really an elite group of uber-hackers. It's just a really large group of people, a good percentage of whom Know What They're Doing when it comes to computers. And they're fanatical.
To make a boxing analogy, this isn't like picking a fight with the professional champions of each weight class.
This is like picking a fight with every amateur boxing club in America, all their instructors, members, and sympathizers, at once.
To give you an idea of how awesomely powerful this segment of the hacker community is, in 2005 they stole the password to Dick Cheney’s Club Penguin account and started making indecent comments about Rock Hopper under Cheney’s profile Dark Penguin. Disney and the Secret Service tried in vain for six months to stop them but failed. Finally the gov. used CIA funds to pay these hackers off and to close down the account. .
Yeah... If these guy's are timing up to fuck up AT&T, I'm really sure you guys should not be calling them "A Bunch of Web-Nerds" since they'll track you down and lend you the web version on a sodomy and you'll end up in hiding and having to change all of the shit information, including phone numbers, ISP's(Irony) and maybe even credit cards. So I suggest you don't mess with the smart bunch of advanced hackers seeing as they can really f*ck up people's lives
@Albert Samuel: I don't really think the 4chaners give a fuck about being called web-nerds. They have much bigger fish to fry. Besides, I'm pulling for them to do something especially dastardly in this case.
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Once he had ten people in his office all telling him in deadly serious tones that 4chan was not a thing to mess with, he finally got the point.
I can just imagine that any and all nerds in the AT&T offices had the same conversation, but were overruled. I'm sorry that their lives are now going to suck.
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Basically the talented peeps have to orchestrate a plan and then herd the me-toos to achieve specific goals.
It's much more difficult than outsiders make it sound. Go teach high school or a 100 level class for more info. Fortunately AT&T made it easy for them by inviting collective hate but if the me-toos get too terroristy the feds might kill the fun.
Yeah, this will be interesting to watch.
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I'm sure those guys not only agree, but wear that description like a badge of honor from my dealings with them at Otakon.
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It isn't nice for pots to be calling kettles black, man.
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To make a boxing analogy, this isn't like picking a fight with the professional champions of each weight class.
This is like picking a fight with every amateur boxing club in America, all their instructors, members, and sympathizers, at once.
Good luck with that.
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PS: This reminds me--what kind of sane editor/reader could ever buy that "Jukt Micronics" is the actual name of an actual company?
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I hope they do that Office Space thing where they empty their bank accounts.
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AT&T trying to take them on is up there with a small town local sheriff trying to take down all of the Colombian drug lords at once.
These people have nothing but time on their hands and are fairly well organized.
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