There is nothing complicated about "gender and sexuality"
Boys have a penis and Girls have a vagina. That is as complicated as it gets.
I don't care what kind of nutjob you are or what you call yourself. You can call your dog a cat all day if it makes you feel better but it is still a dog.
OK, I'm officially old and have turned into my grandmother: "You're getting married, bubbeleh, you could at least put on a dress? Feh with that schmatte on your head!"
@City_Dater: I know, sugar. A nice little suit with a peplum, a rhinestone pin at least! But I understand they are homeless and don't have much money. Still, the groom could have bought his bride a corsage.
You'll have to pull me kicking and screaming out of the 20th century, people! I double dare you!
the real thing to note in that article is the Post's super-bias against using the pronoun that "she" obviously wishes to use -- and the little barb at the bottom with the "I'm transsexual", he lied. Uh. Who is the Post to redefine what the fuck transsexual is? Someone who thinks they are the other sex and dresses/acts the part and refers to themselves as the other sex should be afforded the classification of "transsexual" .. I don't think all-out penis-removal is the actual litmus test..
@lobstr: Indeed. I am further dismayed by Gawker's misleading write-up. Kimah is NOT "gay"; since she is not a man who is attracted to other men. She is a transwoman who is attracted to men. This is only a "gay marriage" on paper, since Kimah is still legally Hakim, but if she were to change all her documents and classified (beauraucratically) as female, she and Jason would, I hope, be eligible for a garden-variety heterosexual marriage.
@Emma Bramley-Kuehnbaum: This gets into some very bizarre metaphysical opinion based crap. If a man loves a man and he loves men, but the man he loves believes he is supposed to be a woman, then is only the gay man who thinks hes a man gay? I think that using labels for love (or most things for that matter) is pretty pointless, if you love someone you should be with them. pronouns be damned lets just invent more neutral or just start calling them 'ska'.
@lobstr: Genetic makeup is the litmus test. I am white, but if I felt that deep down, I was black, and that I identified more with black people, it still wouldn't make me a black person. I don't care who marries whom in this world, so long as the marriage is between two consenting adults, but folks who get all up in arms because the rest of the world doesn't want to get onboard with self-assigned gender identities annoy me and strike me as self-indulgent and attention starved. Even more perplexing are the ones who want everyone to refer to them as a different gender, but have no intention of going through gender re-assignment surgery. How arbitrary is all of this supposed to be?
@pooks: Genetic makeup is not the test. When you trans from one sex to another, you are still genetically male or female--your DNA does not change. These people get up in arms because some people do not try to understand the difference between "gender" and "sex."
Many, many people who make the transition (especially female-to-male) do not have full reassignment surgery, i.e., they do not change the shape of their genitalia, for a variety of reasons. You can do better here, pooks.
i'm sure some people will argue, because of this line in the article:
"The 'newlyweds,' meanwhile, have already run into trouble. They took their new license to the Adult Family Intake Center in Manhattan hoping to qualify for couples' housing. But Nelson's name immediately drew suspicion."
That they did it for the housing benefits. Like heterosexual people in financial dire straits (Jason and Hakim live in a shelter) don't get married for the same reasons.
Hakim wants to call himself Kimah after he gets his gender reassignment surgery. Renaming himself after The Wire's coolest detective besides Bunk is but one way to win hearts and minds..
from the New York Post article: "By a fluke, Nelson's ID card has an "F" for female on it, because the official who issued it in April assumed from his appearance that he was a woman."
Nelson knew it was a mistake ("fluke") on the ID card and ran with to commit fraud.
I could post a wiki definition of fraud, but I suspect group think will trump law in this thread. Gawker style.
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Civil rights evolution is a matter of evolving social constructs. Right now things are not evolving fast enough.
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Boys have a penis and Girls have a vagina. That is as complicated as it gets.
I don't care what kind of nutjob you are or what you call yourself. You can call your dog a cat all day if it makes you feel better but it is still a dog.
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My first thought upon seeing the photo: "Oh honey, pretty up a little! I mean, beachwear? Even for a courthouse wedding..."
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You'll have to pull me kicking and screaming out of the 20th century, people! I double dare you!
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Many, many people who make the transition (especially female-to-male) do not have full reassignment surgery, i.e., they do not change the shape of their genitalia, for a variety of reasons. You can do better here, pooks.
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"The 'newlyweds,' meanwhile, have already run into trouble. They took their new license to the Adult Family Intake Center in Manhattan hoping to qualify for couples' housing. But Nelson's name immediately drew suspicion."
That they did it for the housing benefits. Like heterosexual people in financial dire straits (Jason and Hakim live in a shelter) don't get married for the same reasons.
I wish the couple the best.
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too bad though, it really is utterly stupid homosexuals cant suffer as much as heterosexuals do >.>
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from the New York Post article: "By a fluke, Nelson's ID card has an "F" for female on it, because the official who issued it in April assumed from his appearance that he was a woman."
Nelson knew it was a mistake ("fluke") on the ID card and ran with to commit fraud.
I could post a wiki definition of fraud, but I suspect group think will trump law in this thread. Gawker style.
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