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    Mark Penn Is Back, to Recruit Some Telecom Clients

    Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist

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    Image of markscottmusic markscottmusic
    09/09/09

    In reply to Mark Penn Is Back, to Recruit Some Telecom Clients
    What! People are ditching their land lines for cell phones?! This is BRAND NEW information!
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    09/09/09

    @markscottmusic:
    I hear great things about something called the internets.
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    09/09/09

    @markscottmusic: Remember, during the 2008 campaign, Penn was the idiot who didn't hear about the importance of caucus states for delegate-building until Hillary lost a half dozen of them.
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    Image of BlinkyMcChuck BlinkyMcChuck
    08/28/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    The bigger crime in all of this is the introduction of the word "glamping", which sounds like a word for bad sex.
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    08/28/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    This is the soft paternalism way of doing things of the GOP - "But he said he was going to take care of it!" - the same thinking behind deregulated markets.
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    Image of abettertomorrow abettertomorrow
    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    Well, what about Paul Krugman, who wrote all kinds of great things about Enron, then took $50k from them to be on a do-nothing board?

    What about the columnist who writes about topics that he thinks will earn him big speaking fees down the line?

    What about the columnist who writes about the same topic that her recently published book addresses?

    What about the reporter who writes about the topic that he knows his publisher has a personal deep interest in?

    Penn is what he his, so this is no defense - your complaint, however seems pretty, pretty vague...

    How, exactly, are "journalist" ethics any different than "concrete wholesaler" ethics?
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    Edited by abettertomorrow at 08/27/09 5:57 PM abettertomorrow was starred abettertomorrow was unstarred
    Image of Max Power Max Power
    08/27/09

    @abettertomorrow: Yeah except like that fuckstick Penn, Krugman actually defended himself (quite successfully) many times about his connection. [www.pkarchive.org]
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    abettertomorrow promoted this comment Max Power was starred Max Power was unstarred
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    08/27/09

    @Max Power: Yeah, Krugman says - I was a columnist, not a a journalist, when I wrote for national publications while getting an Enron paycheck - and - I didn't disclose that I was paid, but people should have assumed-. I fail to see how this is in any way different from Mark Penn. At least Mark Penn isn't promoting companies he does PR for in his column. Here are the actual quotes from Krugman's response link:

    "I did write monthly columns for two magazines in 1999, but I would not have described myself as a journalist - no more so than, say, Laura Tyson, Robert Barro, or or Gary Becker, respected economists who write monthly columns for Business Week. I wrote a monthly column for Fortune; that column was neither a major commitment of time nor a major source of income. I also wrote a monthly column, for very little money, for Slate. My main sources of income were teaching, consulting, and business speaking.

    5. Did I disclose my connection? Yes. I reported it the one time I mentioned Enron in Fortune, almost three years ago. I reported it again the first time I mentioned Enron in the New York Times, in a highly critical article more than a year ago. I didn't say that I was paid to serve on the board, but I thought that was obvious: who volunteers his services to for-profit corporations? "
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    08/27/09

    @abettertomorrow: here's the article Krugman wrote for Fortune:
    [web.archive.org]

    It's certainly ok to be wrong, and it makes it much more difficult to explain when you're taking $37,500 from the company you're so very, very wrong about.
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    Image of Mo MoDo Mo MoDo
    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    "Actually, we are giving him a raise because we admire that kind of entrepreneurial spirit here at WSJ. Perhaps we should ask for a finder's fee from future columns.
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    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    This ludicrous WSJ quote also applies to the newspaper's view of the big investment banks' looting of the U.S. Treasury: ""Clearly what was done is not something that we liked. But we're pretty sure that it's going to stop."
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    Image of Aaron Altman Aaron Altman
    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    Hamilton - shouldn't there be a photo of the WSJ with a FAIL instead?
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    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    I'm pretty sure there's nothing like cold, hard facts to back up journalism.
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    Image of Trulymadlyme Trulymadlyme
    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    I wonder what our wunderkid Hunter thinks of this? Because I always find the "ethics" of journalism to be a laughable thing.
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    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    "He does not have any glamping clients" is fantastic.
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    Image of Gabriel Snyder Gabriel Snyder
    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    What a proud day for the Wall Street Journal. I'm sure everyone in the newsroom is thrilled.
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    08/27/09

    @Gabriel Snyder:

    Best quote? "Clearly what was done is not something that we liked. But we're pretty sure that it's going to stop."

    We'll as long as they're pretty sure about it, I'm satisfied.
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    Image of Aaron Altman Aaron Altman
    08/27/09

    @Gabriel Snyder: It's around lunchtime right now, so you'll probably get a few phone calls to your tipline from some of them, now untethered from their Dow Jones phones, OR perhaps anonymous emails from an Internet cafe nearby, with journalistic gripes. At least we hope so.
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    Edited by Aaron Altman at 08/27/09 1:16 PM Aaron Altman was starred Aaron Altman was unstarred
    Image of tailpipebananna tailpipebananna
    08/27/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Unbelievably Keeping Mark Penn as Columnist
    the sad part is that no one will care. Really. Thanks Hamilton for policing this stuff, but people don't care anymore.
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    Novaload Welcomes the Returning Jezuits ! promoted this comment tailpipebananna was starred tailpipebananna was unstarred
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    08/27/09

    @tailpipebananna: I care. And don't forget, Ben Stein lost his gig for being a shill. There's hope.
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    Image of SidAndFinancy SidAndFinancy
    08/27/09

    @tailpipebananna: Sad but true. I for one, though, will take a stand and cancel my subscription. By which I mean I'll stop leafing through my neighbor's copy while waiting for the elevator. As long as someone's Times or Post is nearby.
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    08/27/09

    @tailpipebananna: I don't care. I wouldn't have expected anything less from Penn or most other op-ed/columnists with other gigs. This kind of behavior around news articles would be an issue, and also occurs, no doubt. Let's police that.
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    08/27/09

    In reply to Leak: How Mark Penn Converts His Wall Street Journal Column into P.R. Clients
    le ZING...
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    Image of Mo MoDo Mo MoDo
    08/26/09

    In reply to Leak: How Mark Penn Converts His Wall Street Journal Column into P.R. Clients
    Maybe Mark Penn and Ben Stein can get together and start their own newspaper. They can call it Conflicting Interests.
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Leak: How Mark Penn Converts His Wall Street Journal Column into P.R. Clients
    I'm looking at this piece with a Top Chef ad in the top corner, as in a show that you cover often and fawningly. (I don't actually read your coverage, but a live-blog and a recap on top of it are a bit much, no?)
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