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Why Is Bernie Madoff in a Southern Prison?

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b4nt4
07/16/09

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I recall reading in either NY Mag or the New Yorker that he is only at Butner temporarily. Can't find the article I thought I read that in though.
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b4nt4
07/16/09

@b4nt4: That same article stated that's also the prison where Charles Ponzi himself was imprisoned.
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Accidental Billionaire
07/16/09

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White collar criminals may not be at the joint with violent felons.

Could you imagine what would happen to Bernie if he got put in supermax? He'd be ripped to shreds.

You don't want that, do you?
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NigelAstydameia
07/16/09

@Accidental Billionaire: Actually not true. At Supermax, prisoners have little or no contact with other prisoners. You pretty much die of boredom in there.
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NigelAstydameia
07/16/09

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Wow, not one joke about a prison being called "Butner." Such a classy crowd today!
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HurtsSoGood
07/16/09

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We have one famous white-collar criminal at one of our lovely incarceration facilities in central New York (100-120 inches of lake effect snow annually, with below-zero temps very common in winter). Unfortunately for him, then-Attorney General Eliot Spitzer got hold of him before the feds did.
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scroll_lock
07/16/09

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Tutoring consisting of financial planning that rhymes with "Fonzie".
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Claire Buoyant
07/16/09

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If I ever get convicted, I'm going to plead with the feds never to send me to Hawaii.
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freedc
07/16/09

@Claire Buoyant: Sadly, many people from Hawaii get sent to serve time in prisons on the mainland. Since inmates are disproportionately poor, you can imagine they have little contact with loved ones because most can't afford trips - it'd be hard for the riches to afford trips from Hawaii, let alone the poors. Depending on certain things, the long-distance phone calls are either very high or too high to afford at all.

This is also a huge problem in D.C. because there are thousands of D.C. people in the custody of the BOP and they ship them all over the country.
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scroll_lock
07/16/09

@freedc: Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
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Niko Bellic
07/16/09

@Claire Buoyant: I am pretty sure I saw "except in Hawaii and Alaska" disclaimer in the US constitution.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
07/16/09

@Claire Buoyant: The one place I never want to go is back into the briar bush.
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Housebroken(mostly)
07/16/09

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Otisville?!? But Lex Luther hasn't blown up the San Andres yet!
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notsofresh
07/16/09

@Housebroken(mostly): Yes!
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Smitros
07/16/09

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Bureau of Prisons FTW!
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freedc
07/16/09

@Smitros: No, no, no! We can all be mad at Bernie but don't give the BOP any props! It is run with such secrecy and what seems to be little oversight or concern. It's really one step up from the gulag.
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freedc
07/16/09

@freedc: And that said, the BOP has nothing on most state systems.
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Smitros
07/16/09

@freedc:

Okay, I was being flippant.

But I guess I wouldn't take Madoff as the poster perp for prison reform (no doubt much needed) when lesser criminals suffer far worse.
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Weegee's bored
07/16/09

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North Carolina has the world's most peculiar barbeque (you get your meat with an ice cream scoop). So if he could get any he wouldn't like it.
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goetz
07/16/09

@Weegee's bored: I haven't spent much time in prison, but I'm pretty sure just about all the food is served from an ice cream scoop.
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Claire Buoyant
07/16/09

@goetz: Slate on prison food:

* Article

* Video
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goetz
07/16/09

@Claire Buoyant: I guess we gluten-free are out of luck in the jail-food department. I'd probably have worse problems, though. I'm very handsome, you see.
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HurtsSoGood
07/16/09

@Weegee's bored: I believe it's called pulled pork. In the other Carolina (the one with the philandering governor), it is usually served with a mustard and honey based barbecue sauce. Mmmmmmmmm (drool).
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