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    11/11/09

    In reply to Another Botched Sales Job for Carly Fiorina
    Haha. How did I miss this piece of comedy gold earlier? Wow. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Announces Senate Candidacy, Immediately Highlights Political Ignorance
    Yet another brave Moron American steps forward to represent her fellow Moron Americans to the Senate. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    What?...does this mean I can call Carly "wench"? #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    Would Carly prefer to be called "sweetie" or "honey" if she wins? I'm sure if she winks during senate hearings a lot, she'll get the Rich Lowry vote, anyway. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    If someone said something offensive and disrespectful to me, I'd stand up for myself. Then again, I am not our nation's military leader. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    More to the point was that one of the few years Carly voted? #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    To be fair, she never asked *anyone* to address her as "Destroyer of HP"
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    From now on, I will only refer to Carly Fiorina by her official title: "One of the 20 Worst American CEOs of All Time." #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @crookedE:
    From MSNBC.COM- she's #19
    "A consummate self-promoter, Fiorina was busy pontificating on the lecture circuit and posing for magazine covers while her company floundered. She paid herself handsome bonuses and perks while laying off thousands of employees to cut costs. The merger Fiorina orchestrated with Compaq in 2002 was widely seen as a failure. She was ousted in 2005.

    THE STAT: HP stock lost half its value during Fiorina’s tenure. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    I expect at the end, the general says, "Yes, Senator," but it sounds awfully close to "Yessir." #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @Uh oh... Cleveland: Har har! Because only people with penises should expect respect. I get it! It's funny! #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @yvanehtnioj: For the record, "ma'am" is the term of respect in the military for a female commissioned officer of higher rank than the one doing the talking. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @Iconoclastodon: That in no way addresses Cleveland's bullshit "he probably called her a dude" comment. But thanks for the trivia. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @Iconoclastodon: Yes, but if she were speaking to him (or I was), wouldn't we call him "General" as a sign of respect? The way you call a priest "Father" or a doctor "Doctor," etc?

    And if the general were speaking to a male Senator, wouldn't he call him "Senator?"

    Just wondering -- #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @Bunsy: It's hard to say. It sounds awkward to my ear to call an officer by rank without a name after it. I didn't mean to suggest Boxer was being petty, by the way. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @yvanehtnioj: I don't think it's really trivial whether the general intended deliberate disrespect.

    I think I read your comment without paying much attention to Cleveland's. Was just trying to be helpful. I've got the impression there are few Gawker commenters with much direct experience of the military. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    I can't with these "true conservative" idiots. If any of this ludicrousness actually works in 2010, I'm going to hop on my Medicareless-grandma-powered, green technology autogyro and putter off to Kenya. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    wait, she needs donations of "$25, $50, $100, $250, or more" to help distribute this video? has she never heard of Youtube?! now wonder she's not at HP anymore......... #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    Yaaaay! She's just as incompetent as I expected her to be! You're in California, you idiot, not Texas. No one gives a hot damn about gratuitously ass-kissing the military here. This is going to be fun to watch. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: These kind of campaigns are hilarious because they hire political consultants that clearly don't know what they're doing. It reminds me of Liddy Dole's consultants in NC, who treated North Carolinians like they were from the deep south. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: My Californian friends say that kind of cracker shit is pretty salient outside the San Francisco-San Diego corridor (although usually outnumbered). Not true? I've never been there. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @BearDownCBears: Conservative, yes. Cracker, not so much. That kind of culture war BS plays in a few counties, but this is so silly I have a hard time imagining it would gain ground.

    I mean, asking to be called by your title? Big whoop. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @BearDownCBears: I think Cicada nailed it. Plus this looks to me to be about a very southern concern with manners and deference that I really don't see playing that well here -- I think relatively few people would find that exchange even faintly objectionable, not least because she clearly says "please" and her tone is perfectly friendly. It's very true that CA is nowhere near as blue a state as I wish it were, but I don't think it's the same kind of conservatism. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: I guess you haven't spent much time in Bakersfield. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @romulus: If you have, and know better, please elaborate. Again, I'm not saying that there aren't plenty of conservative people in California -- the passage of Prop. 8 makes that obvious. I'm saying that this video is not likely to generate the amount of outrage they're hoping for here. If I'm wrong, we'll see. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: I just went to California for two weeks and traveled everywhere. Outside of LA and San Francisco it is a backwoods super- conservative culture. But it kind of made me glad to be from a backwoods conservative midwest town. In my town, people in poverty are conservatives because they are ignorant that this party doesn't actually serve them, in California, I saw people being conservatives because they were quite aware that the republicans serve their selfish, white, wealthy interests. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: San Diego is pretty heavily military, but even so, I can't see this video raising much controversy. Not only is Senator Boxer respectful herself, she's simply asking for the respect of being addressed by her own title. I'd say the only people who would fuss are those who already don't like her and wouldn't vote for her anyways. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @banana_grabber: Please explain how people aside from the Beverly Hillbillies can be wealthy and backwoods at the same time. Those are two very different types of conservatism. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @lurkerbynature: Yup, that's my take as well. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @banana_grabber: Exactly. Being all about selfish, white, wealthy interests /= getting riled up over a Senator asking to be addressed as Senator. It's a different type of culture.

    I grew up in a small town in northern CA, full of true-red Republicans and the issues that got them riled were taxes and immigration, not stuff like this. Also, Californians are freaked about their state's economy right now. Culture war BS is the farthest thing from their minds. I'm thinking this is just a way to drum up money from the folks who would never vote for Boxer anyway. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: ranchers - not saying they're all "backwoods and wealthy" but a lot of them are - and I say this as someone from the San Joaquin Valley who spent a lot of time in the foothills and up in Butte County, where most of them live. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @chiquitabanana: and in addition, Boxer is pretty much despised up and over there, not saying it's right, but it's a fact and sadly I think this kind of thing will play well with the people I grew up with. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @chiquitabanana: When I think of "backwoods", I think in terms of, well, back woods -- remote, sparsely populated areas with little or no intercourse, you should excuse the expression, with the outside world, such as parts of Appalachia or the Ozarks. Backwoods isn't just rural, it's uber-rural. You'll know better than I about where you grew up, but it really sounds more like farm country than back woods. I myself grew up on what had been a working farm up until a few years before I was born, and across the road from another one, but I'd never call the area backwoods.

    It's one thing to say the ad will play well with people who already despise her. Anything that disparages her will play well with people who already despise her. Since she's an incumbent Senator, she's obviously managed to prevail in the past despite their animosity. What they're looking for, or should be looking for, is something that will motivate people who don't already despise her to do so. I continue to doubt that this is it. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: yes, it's farm and ranch country but a lot of the people here have roots in Oklahoma and Arkansas, and even if it's a few generations back, and they're a heck of a lot wealthier now, they are still proud of their roots and cling on to the accent, the culture, the image, etc - attend one of our county fairs or rodeos and you'll see and meet a lot of people with quite a lot of money who look and sound like they come from the hills of Tennessee...
    on your last point I totally agree - but I don't this particular ad is necessarily to reach out to people who might be on the fence - but more to consolidate her base #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    I imagine her strategists have come up with a campaign plan that involves winning without needing the vote of anyone who's ever tried using HP customer service? #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    Hey Carly, how's about we call you LOSER? #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Carly Fiorina Bravely Attacks Uppity Woman Senator
    I remember when this happened, and my friends and I applauded Boxer for demanding the same respect that men in politics already easily get. If only I'd realized that correcting someone is far more offensive than gender discrimination (accidental or intentional)! Oy, where is Miss Manners when I need her? #carlyfiorina
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    @thisisthepanopticon: You mean, no Senator ever, ever gets called "sir"? Puh-lease. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @thisisthepanopticon: "Gender discrimination". Give me a fuckin' break. It's not like he addressed her as "bitch". In the military you are taught to address people as "sir" or "ma'am" as a term of respect. This woman from HP is definitely a loser, but you people are defending Barbara Boxer?? That's like Ma Kettle calling Pa Kettle black.
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    @no I said no I won't no: No, that's not what I mean. I can summarize what I said: men in politics get more respect than women. When women demand it, they get attacked. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @fuckingoldman: Oh come on. I entirely agree with you that the soldier was calling her ma'am out of habit (and in fact that's how he would address a woman who outranked him), but Sen. Boxer is perfectly entitled to tell him how she prefers to be addressed. #carlyfiorina
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    @fuckingoldman: The protocol for an any soldier addressing a Senator is to use the title. The use of "sir" or "ma'am" is the default for those who do not carry one. I've heard my father address elected officials with their respective title at all times. The general was at fault and he knows it. #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @no I said no I won't no: Military protocol advises officers to use 'sir' or 'ma'am' when addressing anyone higher than them on the chain of command. You would only refer to an individual by their "rank" if they are beneath you.

    So, Boxer was right all along.

    Military protocol aside, ma'am is hardly rude. She reminded me of dipshit PhD's insisting on being referred to as 'doctor.' #carlyfiorina
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    11/10/09

    @momof3wildkids: Yeah, screw those people who have more accomplishments than me! They suck!
    -Everyone on the Internet, Ever. #carlyfiorina
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    @momof3wildkids: Oh please. She's a senator, she should be referred to as senator, and asking to be so addressed is "hardly rude." #carlyfiorina
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    @momof3wildkids: i had a female english teacher in HS who had a PhD and asked us to call her Dr. Some of the students would get all up in arms that they had a address a HS teacher, (of all things!) in this manner. I called them out on their nonsense. She went to school and got hers. Now she wants you to recognize. When you get a doctorate, you can let people ignore your accomplishments all you want. In the meantime, stfu. #carlyfiorina
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    @Helio: Then how come people get all uppity when I ask them to respect my MS degree and call me "Master"? #carlyfiorina
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    @Anthony_Underscore: Haha. This is the one drawback to having an M.S. Nobody ever calls me by my title.
    Except the slaves in my dungeon, but that's different. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @Colonel Mustard: It was the manner in which she "asked." Of course, she has a right to ask to be called whatever. What Boxer was insinuating was that the Brig General was being rude or sexist by calling her ma'am. Bottom line: he was not. #carlyfiorina
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    @momof3wildkids: Well, now, it depends. Did he address male senators as "Senator" or "Sir?" If he addressed them as "Sir" then it wasn't rude or sexist to address her as "Ma'am." If he called them "Senator" then he should address her as "Senator." It depends on how he treated others and since the video here doesn't show that, it's hard to judge. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @momof3wildkids: Bottom line is that this is an entirely ridiculous non-issue at its very foundation. Whether you think she was especially polite about how she requested to be addressed by her hard-earned title in one isolated and context-free instance is immaterial, and has fuck-all to do with how she functions as a senator. #carlyfiorina
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    11/11/09

    @Colonel Mustard: Don't call me momof3wildkids. I would like to be called by my hard earned title: Managing Director and Chief Operating Officer of my family. I've earned it. #carlyfiorina
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    11/12/09

    @Managing Director and Chief Operating Officer of your family: Fine. You've earned it. #carlyfiorina
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