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fileunder
01/07/09

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Maureen Dowd's Insane Love Letter
Yeah, Torricelli was kind of a dick, but I wouldn't put him in the same pantheon as Helms and Thurmond.

No way, Mo.
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hansuymaristela
01/07/09

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Maureen Dowd's Insane Love Letter
Maureen Dowd is a FLUFFER for her friends (and people she thinks are of her level and share her screwed-up view of the world) and the harshest critic to people she disliked. I have never quite forgotten her repeated put-downs of then-Vice President Al Gore during the 2000 elections. And let's not even talk about what she did to Hillary; she drank the Kool-Aid even before the pitcher came out of the kitchen!
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Mo MoDo
01/07/09

@Hans Uy Maristela: Talk about the bitters holding a grudge. Anybody think that maybe Gore really was a stiff, fabricating omnitron? Don't shoot the messenger for pointing out that the emperor's new earth-tone clothes weren't all they were said to be.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
01/07/09

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Maureen Dowd's Insane Love Letter
1. dowd is an old, tired act and should go away
2. kennedy is a blank slate, publicly
3. i don't much care for either of them, personally
4. that said, "Harvard and Columbia Law School grad" kennedy vs 6 colleges barely graduateed palin, well, there's pretty much no comparison, so false analogies there on every count
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braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
01/07/09

@if_i_only_had_a_heart: Yeah, I mean...all other things being equal, the education is a pretty big deal.

Of course, Kennedy isn't being chosen (or not) over Palin so, I don't even know.

I don't know anything. The coffee maker is broken at work. I know that.
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BxgrlJeri
01/07/09

@if_i_only_had_a_heart: I've also never seen a picture of Caroline gleefully gloating over a dying Moose. That image of Palin is, unfortunately, burned into my brain and won't leave no matter how much mescaline I ingest.
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Cord
01/07/09

@if_i_only_had_a_heart: Well Palin was not lucky enough to have a last name that could get her into any school. Caroline has never practiced law or written a brief so I can't judge her on her legal merits but she has a nice education, no doubt.
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braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
01/07/09

@Cord: Yeah, six colleges in four years--one of which was the Idaho State University--that's not because she didn't have the name recognition.

I mean, if she just went to Idaho State. Or if she started at a state school and ended up at somewhere reasonably respectable, like Chicago or even Iowa or Missouri, that'd be something else.
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Cord
01/07/09

@braak: But do we know the nature of the transfers? I'm trying to find the article (may have been the NY Times) but it said that it wasn't unusual for Alaskans to transfer colleges (prob didn't apply to amount of transfers of Palin did).
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Hydroceph
01/07/09

@Jlyn: How about dead wolves draped over the struts of an airplane? Or that lovely scene of the turkey "pardon" while piles of them were being fed into a wood chipper?
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braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
01/07/09

@Cord: No, that's true. Still, there are a lot of people who go to places like Columbia and aren't named Kennedy. While it might be fair to say that Caroline Kennedy was lucky, I don't think it'd be fair to say that Sarah Palin was just unlucky. Which I know that you technically didn't say that, but I was addressing the implication just in case.

Not that any of this is pertinent; I was just saying, all other things being equal, I'm more likely to lean towards a person with a Harvard/Columbia education than a University of Idaho education.
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BxgrlJeri
01/07/09

@Hydroceph: is that yer friend in tha woodchippa?
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Aaron Altman
01/07/09

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Maureen Dowd's Insane Love Letter
Worth noting that yesterday, the Times took a look at other wannabe appointees, including Congressman Steve Israel, Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney and others - and the Times was even decent enough to cycle through pictures of them so people would know who the hell they were talking about!

[www.nytimes.com]

How gracious of the Gray Lady to do a piece that somewhat focuses on these potential replacements, none of whom are named Kennedy or Cuomo. And it's only January fucking 6th!
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Mo MoDo
01/07/09

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Maureen Dowd's Insane Love Letter
Making the argument that there are for worse dynasties **cough**Bushes**cought** out there is pretty faint praise.

But I do love how she shoe-horned "profiles in courage" into the column. Nobody does the easy allusion like the Dowdster.
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Cord
01/07/09

@Mo MoDo: There aren't that many major & recent dynasties to choose from...it's basically the Bush family or the Kennedys.
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Mo MoDo
01/07/09

@Cord: In her column, Dowd names Udall (two of them), Begich, Casey, Dodd, and Rockefeller as current congressman with political patriarchs. And I count the Clinton co-regency as a lateral dynasty.
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SinisterRouge
01/07/09

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Maureen Dowd's Insane Love Letter
She's smart, cultivated, serious and unpretentious."

This coming from Maureen Dowd: Queen of the idiotic columnists, a total joke of a "journalist" and utterly pretentious.

(Oh yeah she's also batshit crazy drunky!)
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Cord
01/07/09

@SinisterRouge: I think it's the bond of Irish Catholic Women.
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Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
01/07/09

@SinisterRouge: 'Cause like, you know? She's a friend of mine.
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SinisterRouge
01/07/09

@oyvehisyou: Basically right? Like, cuz she's rich and white and Irish. Just like me! She's just as qualified. Blergh.
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Mo MoDo
01/07/09

@Cord: Or at least bottle red-heads.
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mmstk101
01/07/09

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Maureen Dowd's Insane Love Letter
Maureen Dowd should be fired. Out of a cannon. Into a snowbank.
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Hydroceph
01/07/09

@mmstk101: I like Maureen Dowd. She's makes Evil Nastiness, just like Mother used to make.
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naugahydeinplainsight
12/31/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: She's Kind of a Snob
Someone at the Times seems desperate to keep the Palin-Kennedy thing going. Nothing Bidenish about the moment described, since Palin's debate overture was a transparent attempt to come off as a friendly equal, while Kennedy merely parroted the Buffalo mayor's line, perhaps in an attempt to seem less snobbish. They are both women, though, so maybe that's enough.
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Sigerson
12/31/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: She's Kind of a Snob
i sense a backlash to the backlash coming
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lobstr
12/31/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: She's Kind of a Snob
"...the only ways I know how to make it better is to go out there and do it every day"

Hah. So THAT's what Bush is doing with that retarded Nu-Cu-Lar shit... it's all a big elaborate rouse ...on us!
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SinisterRouge
12/31/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: She's Kind of a Snob
He also echoed Ms. Kennedy's own comments that she would always be held to a higher standard because of her boldface name.

Oh yeah. Hilarious. Especially the part where she said she had to work twice as hard! HA! I mean, I get the whole dead family thing. And I do love the Kennedys in general. But fuck me how clueless do you have to be to say that Caroline Kennedy has had to work twice as hard as "anyone else." BLERGH. I'm glad her shit-candidacy is in the shitter so fucking quickly. Seriously, what a tool she is.

Ya KNOW?!
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LOCI
12/31/08

@SinisterRouge:

What exactly has she worked "twice as hard" at? Best as anyone can tell, she's never held a real job, never taken a strong public stand on anything as RFK has done with the environment or Rory Kennedy has done with human rights. She's never held elective office before, and by all accounts, her work with the public school fundraising gig amounted to 2 hours a week of actual work. The only thing she's done is trade in on her family name by working with her daddy's library and handing out awards named after a book her dad didn't even write (Profiles in Courage was notably ghostwritten.)

CK is a useless Park Avenue matron with an over the top sense of entitlement and no obvious talent.
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FormerEnglishMajor
12/31/08

@LOCI: This is exactly how I feel, and have been getting lambasted for saying. NY deserves a smart, hard-working Senator with no baggage, period.
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Weegee's bored
12/31/08

@SinisterRouge: you betcha!
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SinisterRouge
12/31/08

@LOCI: Exactly. And I like her family. But she's ruining it with this nonsense. And so declasse to have Bloomberg making waves. She wants to be senator of NY not of NYC and Bloomberg can suck it.
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Baroness
12/31/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: She's Kind of a Snob
..officials ushered her eagerly into a conference area known as the Kennedy Room, decorated with pictures of her father, her mother, her younger brother, and Ms. Kennedy herself as a little girl. Ms. Kennedy, while polite, did not appear particularly moved. "She never responded to the pictures," recalled Robert Duffy, the mayor of Rochester and the meeting's host. "She looked and perhaps nodded. She never said a word about it."

Heartless woman! Common courtesy dictates that she should have genuflected and burst into tears. Who does she think she is?
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Dagrolord
12/31/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: She's Kind of a Snob
Deprived of the deifying early demise, recent Kennedys have not worn well upon America. The suspicious absence of psychotic political assassins here over the last four decades suggests that any successful candidacy by Caroline Kennedy for major political office would only lead to successive incumbency and further attenuation of the Kennedy Legacy.
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oneinsixbillion
12/31/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: She's Kind of a Snob
Haha, sweet Caroline. She's not getting it. Between her flopping and Bobby Rush's comments yesterday about there not being a single black Senator, especially if Burris is barred, Governor Patterson may end up deciding to fill the void himself. Carl McCall would be a great choice, and given his age and retirement, it would leave the seat open for 2010. If he wants to show he's got some cajones, he'd appoint someone like Kevin Parker.
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Weegee's bored
12/31/08

@oneinsixbillion: Seconded on Kevin Parker. I would second that even if I weren't a Flatbush alum.
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The One
12/31/08

@oneinsixbillion: Nah, real cajones would require that he appoint Charles "Slappy" Barron.
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FormerEnglishMajor
12/31/08

@oneinsixbillion:

No way Carl McCall. Wasn't he the guy who smilingly approved Dick Grasso's $200 mil NYSE "retirement"? He is a nice guy and may be great at making friends, but he is not all that good at digging into numbers, which is what we need right now.
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dylanhendrix
12/24/08

In reply to The Caroline Times File: Everyone Resents Her Today
This is like that scene in Mean Girls when Damian says, "She doesn't even go here."

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PandoraSpocks
12/24/08

@dylanhendrix: I love that scene!
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