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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/29/09

    In reply to Saturday Night Special
    By the way, #SNL has some seriously horrendous hosts lined up for the next few weeks, so I expect lots of liveblogging in #SNS. Next week is Blake Lively, followed by Taylor Lautner(!!), followed by James Franco (who I respect for the whole soap thing, but seriously?), followed by Jay Baruchel, who I'm not sure has ever had more than four lines in any given movie. WTF?
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    Image of fatmonalisa fatmonalisa
    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: One thing to remember about SNL. It's not about the quality but the PR. SNL is the equivalent to an appearance on The Rachel Ray Show now.
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/29/09

    @fatmonalisa: I think you're undervaluing it immensely, actually. I've never seen as many articles about Taylor Swift as I did after she hosted SNL, not even after she swept award show after award show. Not to mention how popular and even arguably influential it was during campaign season. People talk about how irrelevant it is, and yet they managed to get Obama, McCain and his wife, Clinton, and Palin all on air. That's a hop, skip, and enormous jump away from Rachael Ray.
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    Image of jasonelias jasonelias
    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: James Franco, heh, his GH stint is surreal. He'll probably be good on SNL. Why Taylor Lautner was even asked to host SNL is embarrassing. Jay Baruchel?
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    Image of JohntheCraptist JohntheCraptist
    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: Since you opened up the topic, can we briefly discuss the fact that the SNL rerun tonight with Gerard Butler (which is definitely from the current season since those two new women are in this episode) contained a sketch about '300', which came out close to three years ago? WTeffingF is going on with this show? Seriously. (I'm also fairly agog about Baruchel. Whoever manages him is either a very intimidating mafioso type, or, like, a warlock. [Oh my God, now there's a sketch on about 'Braveheart'. I CAN'T.])
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/29/09

    @JohntheCraptist: Yeah, basically Butler will be living off 300 forever because it's the only remotely memorable thing he's done. And I say this having never even seen it, but assuming it must be because otherwise I can neither justify this SNL appearance nor his cover feature in Esquire. I actually thought his episode was OK, especially in a particularly bad season, but I wouldn't like to see him host again.

    As for Baruchel, I'd put twenty bucks on the warlock. Just the fact that his name looks familiar to me is astonishing and clearly the work of the devil and some potion featuring eye of newt. The truth is, he may have comedic chops and therefore not be so bad at SNL, but I find the show a lot less enjoyable when I'm not familiar with the host's work.
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    11/29/09

    @jasonelias: Have you been watching it? I keep forgetting to check it out but I'm dying to see it. Taylor Lautner is the most embarrassing of all, but yeah, Franco will probably be OK, plus I'm pretty sure he's done it before.
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    Image of croush1211 croush1211
    11/29/09

    @jasonelias: Yeah... I don't want to be "that guy", but I honestly have no idea who Jay Baruchel is, even after looking him up on Wikipedia.
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    Image of fatmonalisa fatmonalisa
    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: See, I think Taylor Swift has been on the PR campaign for a long while now and since the IMMA LET YOU FINISH thing. Also, she was totally set up with Taylor Lautner. Everyone knows that kid is gay like Zac Efron
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/29/09

    @fatmonalisa: You're right. It's as if SNL has abandoned any attempt to be funny and is now simply about the "gets", as if the mere presence of a novel or high-profile guest host or a cameo by a politico makes the show good. Last night I watched an episode from the second season. In Update, Jane Curtin made a vicious comment about the Tonight Show with Carson being dead after 15 years on the air. Well, SNL has become that Tonight Show.
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    Image of Helio Helio
    11/29/09

    @croush1211: don't feel bad I am pretty anal about knowing who's who in the films i watch, and I usually win games of 6 degrees amongst my friends, but I didn't know who this kid was either. At least he's a comedic actor, maybe he'll have the best show yet.

    [www.imdb.com]
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: Yeah I've been catching off and on. Franco's character is insane and bordering on creepy. Most of his scenes are with Maxie and the last I saw they were having sex. Poor Spinelli!
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    11/29/09

    @croush1211: I had to do some surfing on him myself. Still don't know why he was asked to host SNL.
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/29/09

    @fatmonalisa: Oh, she's definitely on the PR campaign; my point is that I think SNL is actually a great PR get. Of course, the next few weeks are making me rethink that whole stance...
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: Why you hating on my desire to top James Franco while watching 300?
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    11/29/09

    @KA_editor: I assure you, there's no way you'll find me hating on that anywhere in my comments.
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: They could all come to my house. I'd put out the good plates.
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    Image of spotted-dog spotted-dog
    06/06/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    gawd, you guys are so dense. this is a brilliant cartoon.


    the message here is that obama used the race card in nominating sotomayor. notice that none of the republicans is using the stick (honest debate will be perceived as striking a hispanic woman/pinata with racism/a stick) to strike the pinata, because none of them will because she's hispanic. it turns conventional wisdom about which party is racist on its head, and it may very well be correct because, yeah, the debate will, in the end, be very light.


    does she deserve to be confirmed? absolutely. will the debate on her merits ever prove that? absolutely not. republicans will not risk alienating the hispanic vote and the public's ire by beating up on a pinata.

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    06/06/09

    @spotted-dog: Yes, but by depicting Obama's "race card pulling" by conflating Newyorquen~os with Mexicans is racist. Bok couldn't figure out how to depict Obama's race-card-pulling any other way than tossing a sombrero on his head, because Bok is a fucking uncreative idiot that knows his readership doesn't distinguish between Boricuas and Mexicans. Which is true. In Oklahoma a Puerto Rican would be considered Mexican because Oklahoma is a big red state filled with white social conservatives that never go anywhere and don't know anything about Hispanic identity. (Except, of course, for the 10% of the OKC population that is in fact Mexican, but The Oklahoman doens't write to that readership.) Racist or ignorant, it's not good either way.
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    Image of E. H. Cotton E. H. Cotton
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    Stay classy, state-where-I-was-born
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    If there's no marzipan or bodega lychee candy in that piñata, than I call a fake. Everybody knows you gotta have the racist candy to make it all work.
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    Image of gawkimo gawkimo
    06/05/09

    @Spirit Fingers: I grew up sucking tamarindo paste from a package that looked like a Fisher Price syringe -- so I am offended by your racist candy remark!
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    Image of 92BuickLeSabre 92BuickLeSabre
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    Love the joke in the first line.


    You know, the one about The Oklahoman being a newspaper.

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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    @92BuickLeSabre: *chortle
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    Image of VanessaAkon VanessaAkon
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    Christ you people are IDIOTS.
    This is not racist.
    Here is how you numbskulls read the cartoon:
    Cartoonist shows Hispanic woman characterised as pinata = Racist. Stop any further thought or reflection.
    Here is how thinking people read the cartoon:
    Obama smugly daring the republicans to publically come out and show their stripes in front of the cameras, daring them to blather on about La Raza and all the other bullshit stereotypical stuff (SYMBOLIZED as a Soto Pinata) associated with Mexican Americans.
    BTW, I am Mexican American, I take ZERO offense to this.
    And an note to all you gentle readers.... Bad taste does not automatically equal racism.
    I swear "Racist" is the least understood but most overused word is the English language.
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    Image of allyzay allyzay
    06/05/09

    @VanessaAkon: i love people who give this kind of mental autonomy to grown men who make their careers out of drawing ridiculous charicatures of people they are barely even familiar with, for print publication, in dying newspapers. it is sweet.
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    Image of gawkimo gawkimo
    06/05/09

    @VanessaAkon: HINT: Sotomayor isn't Mexican, but to the eyes of fat angry white people in the federal welfare state of Oklahoma: if it looks like a beaner . . .


    Hope that clears it up for ya!

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    Image of T.S._delegate T.S._delegate
    06/05/09

    @gawkimo: But... I think that's the point? Isn't the implication that Republicans are conflating Mexican stereotypes with Puerto Ricans? Hence, the sombrero and the pinata?


    I'm not defending the quality of the cartoon- it obviously isn't very clear. But I THINK it's actually poking fun at racism, and not using racism to be funny.

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    Image of Niko Bellic Niko Bellic
    06/05/09

    @VanessaAkon: Lumping all people with Hispanic heritage into "Mexicans" and running with that is pretty damn racist to me.


    And that's in addition to being horribly ignorant of current events.


    And that's just talking about you, never mind the idiot who drew this crap.

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    Image of BonMorte BonMorte
    06/05/09

    @Niko Bellic: Racism: To believe one race superior to another. Where the fuck does this cartoon do that? Really, learn english and apply the proper term.
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    Image of Niko Bellic Niko Bellic
    06/06/09

    @BonMorte: You know what? Talk to Parenee, bitch. He called it racist first in those big bold words at the top. I'm not paid to explain cartoons to every damn fool that Gawker allowed to register.
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    Image of gawkimo gawkimo
    06/06/09

    @T.S._delegate: One problem is that Sotopmayor isn't depicted as a pin~ata. It's juts her, hanging from a rope. BTW: you aren't going to win any points indicating that The Oklahoman is actually running a liberal cartoon. Have you read their fucking editorials?
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    Image of T.S._delegate T.S._delegate
    06/08/09

    @gawkimo: No, I haven't. I was just guessing at what it might mean. It's entirely possible that I'm wrong. But it seemed like there was a possibility, at least, that the cartoonist isn't a blatant racist.


    Apologies for the blasted late reply.

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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    I laugh when people use the term 'coded racism.' I've seen no evidence of it, it's all pretty blatant to me in most cases.
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    Image of Kid Twist Kid Twist
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    Years ago, Columbia Journalism Review ran a multi-part series on why The Daily Oklahoman was the worst newspaper in America. Looks like things haven't changed.


    Also, I think it's actually in Idaho. Or one of those other square states.

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    Image of City_Dater City_Dater
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    Is it that people whose awareness of Hispanic culture begins and ends at the Chi-Chi's in the local mall can't come up with anything but piñatas and sombreros, or do they truly believe Ms. Sotomayor is Mexican?
    Like "Obama is really a Senagalese Muslim"?
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    @City_Dater: One of the tenets of racism is a lack of subtle distinction, methinks.
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    Image of Dave J. Dave J.
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    Honestly, I don't think that's as bad as Delonas. Delonas was saying "black people are monkeys," whereas this could be read as a lampoon of Republicans who are using coded racial language, and who kind of view her as a piñata, in the sense that they are about to start swinging at her. Does it use a clumsy ethnic stereotype? Yeah. Is it worse than Delonas? No way.
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    06/05/09

    @Dave J.: Except, of course, the cartoonist failed to draw Sotomayor as a piñata. You see, for the metaphor to work, she should be depicted as a . . . oh, never mind. You're right: this is what passes for a progressive point of view in AMERICA'S WORST NEWSPAPER:


    [www.amazon.com]

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    Image of miss_msry miss_msry
    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    I thought they were making fun of Republicans. My bad for failing to see the obvious smack at minorities ( who aren't).
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    06/05/09

    In reply to New York Falling Behind in Racist Cartoon Race
    I take offense to the cartoonist's assertion that Puerto Ricans can't fly without the aid of rope.
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    06/05/09

    @Richard Lawson: Yet it is redeemed by the uncanny portrayal of the leadership of the GOP.
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    Image of Kid Twist Kid Twist
    06/05/09

    @Richard Lawson: Yeah, why is J-Lo hanging from a rope?
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    Image of ms.conniving ms.conniving
    06/05/09

    @Kid Twist: Because it's too soon to depict David Carradine.
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    Image of BookishLookish BookishLookish
    06/05/09

    @ms.conniving: Ouch.
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    Image of mmstk101 mmstk101
    04/29/09

    In reply to The (Crazy) People Respond to Mikey Weinstein's Military Religious Freedom Foundation
    That letter is one of the best things I have ever read.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to The (Crazy) People Respond to Mikey Weinstein's Military Religious Freedom Foundation
    I had no idea the ranks of our military veterans included such skilled purveyors of snark. My appreciation for our men and women in uniform has now increased tenfold.
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    Image of maggiethecat maggiethecat
    04/29/09

    In reply to The (Crazy) People Respond to Mikey Weinstein's Military Religious Freedom Foundation
    There's an awesome article about Weinstein v. the religious nutjobs in the military in Harper's Magazine. Thank the dinosaurs that someone is fighting the "earth is 5,ooo y.o. nutjobs, iraq war is taking jesus to the heathens" freaks.
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    04/29/09

    @maggiethecat: Yes. The first sentence of this post links to that article.
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