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    Image of SidAndFinancy SidAndFinancy
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Looks like Jack Cafferty is finally taking matters into his own hands.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    08/20/09

    @SidAndFinancy: I thought I hearted you before. Anyway, done now.
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    Image of Swordfish Swordfish
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Those guys in the newsroom photo touchup labs were true artists.
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    Swordfish was starred Swordfish was unstarred
    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @Swordfish: Even if some of the results were less Rembrandt and more Picasso.
    (Still nothing compared with the atrocities that go down now, pixel by manipulated pixel.)
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    naugahydeinplainsight was starred naugahydeinplainsight was unstarred
    Image of ligmasagbatch ligmasagbatch
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    When they Photoshop that machine gun from my cold dead hands...
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    naugahydeinplainsight promoted this comment ligmasagbatch was starred ligmasagbatch was unstarred
    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    08/20/09

    @ligmasagbatch: Can't we double-promote comments somehow?
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    MissNormaDesmond was starred MissNormaDesmond was unstarred
    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Ben Hurl
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    Claire Buoyant was starred Claire Buoyant was unstarred
    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @Claire Buoyant: Will Punny
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    Image of Glib and Bitchy Glib and Bitchy
    08/20/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Planet of the Japes
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    Image of John Eff Kennedy John Eff Kennedy
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Oh, sure, knock the graphics, but back then no one gave you shit about drinking at lunch.
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    BookishLookish promoted this comment John Eff Kennedy was starred John Eff Kennedy was unstarred
    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    08/20/09

    @John Eff Kennedy: Did someone say "drinking at lunch"? Well, hello there, big fella.
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    Image of Dr. Nick Dr. Nick
    08/20/09

    @BookishLookish: I think it was on the audio commentary for the 1964 version of The Killers that someone told a story about how Lee Marvin used to show up for work every day HAMMERED and would keep his mouth closed unless he absolutely had to speak (like, if he had lines). He confided in one of the cast members (I want to say it was Clu Gulager, but don't quote me on that) that he kept his mouth closed so that nobody could smell the booze on his breath. Clu didn't have the heart to tell him that they could smell it on his skin...
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    BookishLookish promoted this comment Dr. Nick was starred Dr. Nick was unstarred
    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    08/20/09

    @Dr. Nick: Hmm, that would explain a lot of the expressions that Angie Dickinson was making that wound up in "Point Blank."
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    BookishLatkeish was starred BookishLatkeish was unstarred
    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @Dr. Nick: I never realized he was doing such a bang-up Method performance in Cat Ballou.
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    Image of John Eff Kennedy John Eff Kennedy
    08/20/09

    @BookishLookish: Just back from lunch. How did you know I was big?
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    John Eff Kennedy was starred John Eff Kennedy was unstarred
    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    08/20/09

    @John Eff Kennedy: Just a hunch, Quasimodo.
     Reply
    Edited by BookishLatkeish at 08/20/09 7:01 PM BookishLatkeish was starred BookishLatkeish was unstarred
    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    x-acto knives and wax and rollers. good timz
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    If_I_Had_a_Poodle was starred If_I_Had_a_Poodle was unstarred
    Image of misslinda misslinda
    08/20/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: And non-repro blue pencils, that toxic stuff that removes rubber cement, and, oh my gosh, cello-tak.
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    misslinda was starred misslinda was unstarred
    Image of Queen of the Passive Aggressives Queen of the Passive Aggressives
    08/20/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: I date back to the days of onion skin and carbon paper.
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    naugahydeinplainsight promoted this comment Queen of the Passive Aggressives was starred Queen of the Passive Aggressives was unstarred
    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: In college we used safety razors, and the typesetters ran off a punch tape! After a long night in makeup, there were always strips of leftover border tape on the bottom of my shoes.
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    Image of freedc freedc
    08/20/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: We had too much fun with the wax rollers. Ahhh, I miss you, pagination by hand!
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    Image of afraidofauntieem afraidofauntieem
    08/20/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: Cutting and pasting that involved actual cutting and pasting

    and, real spikes on the copy desk
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    Flashman promoted this comment afraidofauntieem was starred afraidofauntieem was unstarred
    Image of DorothyBarker DorothyBarker
    08/20/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: after one super long night laying out my college magazine, i had a dream that something was in my eye and it was a huge line of...line. good times.
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    Flashman promoted this comment DorothyBarker was starred DorothyBarker was unstarred
    Image of misslinda misslinda
    08/20/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Yes but have any of you ever set metal type? I think it should be a requirement in every design program. Kids these days don't even know what "leading" is!
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    misslinda was starred misslinda was unstarred
    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Btw... when you click to enlarge, it just pops out the photo. Was this a trick?
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    Uncle_Billy_Slumming was starred Uncle_Billy_Slumming was unstarred
    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    08/20/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: The LAT link has a larger photo.
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    Claire Buoyant was starred Claire Buoyant was unstarred
    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    08/20/09

    @Claire Buoyant:

    Walla...
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    Uncle_Billy_Slumming was starred Uncle_Billy_Slumming was unstarred
    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    "Take that stinking shirt off me, you damned dirty ape!"
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    naugahydeinplainsight was starred naugahydeinplainsight was unstarred
    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    I, for one, would rather see a poorly doctored photo than Moses's saggy, middle-aged manboobs.
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    Edited by Claire Buoyant at 08/20/09 4:00 PM Claire Buoyant was starred Claire Buoyant was unstarred
    Image of bytememehard bytememehard
    08/20/09

    @Claire Buoyant: Rather see his chesticles or his testicles?
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    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    08/20/09

    @bytememehard: Saggage is unacceptable in either.
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    Claire Buoyant was starred Claire Buoyant was unstarred
    Image of Greasy Thumb Guzik Greasy Thumb Guzik
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Roger Ebert used to make fun of the "Mad brassiere artist" or something like that who was always covering up womens chests in movie ads because someone at the paper though there was too much skin exposed. It was always so noticeable & you then went to find the original & discovered that there wasn't that much showing in the first place.
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    Claire Buoyant promoted this comment Greasy Thumb Guzik was starred Greasy Thumb Guzik was unstarred
    Image of irishflyesq irishflyesq
    08/20/09

    @Greasy Thumb Guzik: Was this before or after he became a porn financier?
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    irishflyesq was starred irishflyesq was unstarred
    Image of valet_of_the_dolls valet_of_the_dolls
    08/20/09

    @irishflyesq: Are you referring to "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls", or something really filthy? Enquiring (dirty) minds want to know.
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    valet_of_the_dolls was starred valet_of_the_dolls was unstarred
    Image of J. Frank Parnell J. Frank Parnell
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing

    In the category of Bad Photo Editing, here is the runner-up:
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    naugahydeinplainsight promoted this comment J. Frank Parnell was starred J. Frank Parnell was unstarred
    Image of NigelAstydameia NigelAstydameia
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    That stomach is very Will Ferrellish.
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    NigelAstydameia was starred NigelAstydameia was unstarred
    Image of misslinda misslinda
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    I'm kinda tearing up with nostalgia at the sight of a B&W print, grease pencil, and low budget retouching.
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    misslinda was starred misslinda was unstarred
    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    08/20/09

    @misslinda: I still use a grease pencil on mechanicals. Also have been known to rock the All Purpose Correction Fluid. (I also have one of those pens on a chain that Joan uses on "Mad Men.")
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    Image of wundersmack wundersmack
    08/20/09

    @misslinda: Right on... I still have a waxer and burnisher that had nothing to do with body hair, and everything to do with page layout.

    You can't make this up, people! Ask your old-timer journalism friends.
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    misslinda promoted this comment wundersmack was starred wundersmack was unstarred
    Image of misslinda misslinda
    08/20/09

    @wundersmack: A waxer and burnisher! I had one too! And a whole mess of non-repro blue pencils. *sigh* We are the olds.
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    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    08/20/09

    @misslinda: Letraset. Say it softly and it's almost like praying.
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    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @misslinda: Proportion wheels. And those German made slide-ruley things that worked even better than proportion wheels! Yes -- very old.
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    Edited by naugahydeinplainsight at 08/20/09 4:16 PM naugahydeinplainsight was starred naugahydeinplainsight was unstarred
    Image of Cynical Media Bitch Cynical Media Bitch
    08/20/09

    @misslinda: I have a pica pole and a type gauge kicking around in a desk drawer, just for grins.
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    08/20/09

    @BookishLookish: Mmmm...cello-tak. I still use my Schaedler Precision Rules on a regular basis. They used to hang by a unbent paper-clip from a red lamp above a drafting table with one of those slidey-straight edge wire contraptions. I miss the good ol days...
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    Image of Queen of the Passive Aggressives Queen of the Passive Aggressives
    08/20/09

    @misslinda: I can use a telex! Ticker tape messages via telephone - genius!
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    BookishLookish promoted this comment Queen of the Passive Aggressives was starred Queen of the Passive Aggressives was unstarred
    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    08/20/09

    @Queen of the Passive Aggressives: Shorthand. Selectric II with carbons. Baby, I go waaaay back....
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    Edited by BookishLatkeish at 08/20/09 7:03 PM BookishLatkeish was starred BookishLatkeish was unstarred
    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @BookishLookish: I was briefly an actual copy boy (I guess they call them "clerks" these days) at a NYC tab when they still were using 6-books and you delivered takes to the editing desks one by one as the writer finished. Very Hollywood, ca. 1940s.
    (They also sold beer in the cafeteria, but that's a different issue.)
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    Edited by naugahydeinplainsight at 08/20/09 7:25 PM naugahydeinplainsight was starred naugahydeinplainsight was unstarred
    Image of baconismyaesthetic baconismyaesthetic
    08/20/09

    @misslinda: One of my first jobs was working for a small trade magazine down in the fur district. The editor laid the entire issue out by hand on large boards. Later, I worked for an art university where my boss taught students typography by hand. While I worked on a Selectric and smoked in the office. This was the 80's, not the 40's, but boy it seems a century ago.
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    MissNormaDesmond promoted this comment baconismyaesthetic was starred baconismyaesthetic was unstarred
    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    08/21/09

    @BookishLookish: OMG LETRASET. This thread is giving me a nostalgia headrush.
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    Image of bytememehard bytememehard
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Do I detect a hint of peen bulge in his sweatpants?
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    bytememehard was starred bytememehard was unstarred
    Image of skahammer skahammer
    08/20/09

    @bytememehard: "Hint of Peen" -- that's just got to be the next big winner in the perfume industry. Get on it, byte.
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    skahammer was starred skahammer was unstarred
    Image of bytememehard bytememehard
    08/20/09

    @skahammer: Whiff of Wang? Scosh of Scrote?
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    bytememehard was starred bytememehard was unstarred
    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    08/20/09

    @bytememehard:

    "Click to enlarge" had me chortling.
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    Uncle_Billy_Slumming was starred Uncle_Billy_Slumming was unstarred
    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    08/20/09

    @skahammer:

    Ball Peen Hammer. Ay ya yay!
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    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @bytememehard: Touch of Taint?
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    Edited by naugahydeinplainsight at 08/20/09 4:06 PM naugahydeinplainsight was starred naugahydeinplainsight was unstarred
    Image of bytememehard bytememehard
    08/20/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Sweet Smell of Smegma
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    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    08/20/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Eau de Boilette?
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    Edited by BookishLatkeish at 08/20/09 4:12 PM BookishLatkeish was starred BookishLatkeish was unstarred
    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @bytememehard: Glimmer of Glans
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    naugahydeinplainsight was starred naugahydeinplainsight was unstarred
    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    08/20/09

    @BookishLookish:

    Musque of Baguette
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    Uncle_Billy_Slumming was starred Uncle_Billy_Slumming was unstarred
    Image of hilikusopus hilikusopus
    08/20/09

    In reply to The Horror of Pre-Photoshop Editing
    Someone apparently involved in the newspaper industry pointed out that the red lines indicate that the photo was probably to be used as a headshot, and that a headshot with a naked man chest exposed might confuse the viewer as to what exactly they were supposed to be looking at. Hence, the bad colar job.

    Then again, didn't the LA Times have a real staff artist, for chrissakes? And what could be more confusing than the expression on Heston's face, here?
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    homoviper promoted this comment Edited by hilikusopus at 08/20/09 3:36 PM hilikusopus was starred hilikusopus was unstarred
    Image of homoviper homoviper
    08/20/09

    @hilikusopus: Uh, yeah. With that expression on his face, I'd think a headshot would be the last possible use for this photo. Looks like he's trying to pinch a loaf.
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    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    08/20/09

    @hilikusopus: Follow the link to get a sense for how the pic was actually used -- in this case with a review of the movie, so even in 1-column the "dramatic" expression makes sense.
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    Image of hilikusopus hilikusopus
    08/20/09

    @homoviper: True. But this may be a case of subliminal persuasion. Look to the left of Heston's head, and see the sign hung in the background.
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