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Could this be because they were afraid of getting a little unwanted attention from the Secret Service? Bawk bawk bawk.
11/20/09
The equivalent of kicking a guy out of your party and he retorts, "Whatever dude, I was leaving anyway."
11/20/09
Psalm 109-
1 O God, whom I praise,
do not remain silent,
2 for wicked and deceitful men
have opened their mouths against me;
they have spoken against me with lying tongues.
3 With words of hatred they surround me;
they attack me without cause.
4 In return for my friendship they accuse me,
but I am a man of prayer.
[...]
16 For he never thought of doing a kindness,
but hounded to death the poor
and the needy and the brokenhearted.
It's like the dickward that got the "man shall not lie with another man" verse tattooed on his body without noting that the very next verse is "man shall make no mark upon his body".
Douches all.
11/20/09
On the one hand, I think there are several reasons this Psalm 109:8 meme is inappropriate and reckless, but not because it's some obviously coded threat against the President. As far as we know, it isn't.
If it said, "Pray for Obama — Psalm 109:8-9," then yeah, but it doesn't say that, and it seems a little premature to make generalizations and condemnations of whole groups of people over a line they 1.) probably don't all interpret the same way, and 2.) does not actually, on its own, necessarily suggest anything sinister.
I also worry whether this kind of media attention doesn't actually worsen the "Someone's Going To Try And Kill Barack Obama" hysteria.
I'm sure CafePress yanked it for business/PR reasons, which I can understand, but censorship — even of the most questionable things — leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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I'm more concerned about the lynch mob demanding for anyone sporting a Psalm 109:8 t-shirt, bumper sticker, etc. to get thrown in jail.
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John linked to it rather glibly, and unless readers clicked through and read the original article, it wasn't immediately apparent that even legal experts are saying, "Wait a minute, don't jump to conclusions here just yet."
11/21/09
...Talking to you is like talking to an Etch-A-Sketch, it seems.
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and i agree that cafepress was in the right, as a private company, to remove anything they want. i'm sure the folks that want to sell/give away those items will just find another way
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@Lysergic Asset: How about this shirt? A little more direct then the Psalm 109 shirt, don't you think? CafePress sold ths one for a while but discontinued it, as they should have. Google is a wonderful thing.
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#tips
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Douchebags.
11/20/09
[www.law.cornell.edu]
Freedom of speech is not absolute. [en.wikipedia.org]
11/19/09
Cafe Press lets anyone create images and sell them to people too lazy to waddle on down to the local swap meet.
So, it's more a situation where a wingnut frothed himself into a tizzy, then went crazy(ier) with Cafe Press' template function.
Because true patriots try exploiting for gain the assassination of the President of the United States.
This is supported by the fact that the last RedState denizen who did the same thing had his items disappear, presumably by Cafe Press. Watch the same one happen here, then poor Cafe Press having to create some sort of macro to play Whack-a-Wingnut automatically.
Can't wait until Thankgiving break begins, because once all these guys get back home, cloistered together with their kin, they'll do what they do best: incest.
11/19/09
Yes. Yes. Oh GODS YES!
(Comment about Thanksgiving still stands, though)
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What you said.
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#tips
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@Mediahohoho:
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I never wanted Bush to die. But I would have reveled in his impeachment. He's someone's dad, someone's husband and son...I just didn't want him in charge of the country. He had no blessed clue what he was doing, and he made deadly, deadly mistakes.
11/19/09
G'head, I'll give you a cookie if you can.
11/19/09
This time I'd like sugar cookies with extra weed.
11/20/09
11/20/09
These false equivalencies are common. But, as others have noted in this thread, several attention-seeking, unaffiliated protesters don't come anywhere close to what's happening now. I could rehash (if you genuinely don't know what I'm referring to, I'll be glad to add more), but others have said it better than I.
But I'll bake you a cookie either way, since we're having a nice conversation here. :)
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This all aside from the whole, Let's Lynch Them Uppity People thing.
Context, my friend. Context. They're barely passingly comparable, taken in context.
11/20/09
You make very good points, but I still think I have a valid point in that both sides play stupid games.