Man, my bank account is low. I may have to "go Jewish" for the next few days. This isn't mean to be racist. This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Jewish-American—a friendly banker in New York, say, or a producer in Hollywood—discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his religion in an act of extreme stinginess.
I got this new album that totally rocks. I'm going to "go Negro" and drive around blasting it. This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated African-American—a friendly welfare recipient in New York, say, or a racy comedian—discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his race in an act of antisocial aural assault against his fellow Americans.
I'm totally ready for that physics test. I'm going to "go Chinese" all over it. This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Chinese-American—a friendly dry cleaner in New York, say, or an office worker in middle America—discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his motherland in an act of excellence at science, ruining the curve for his fellow Americans.
I feel so depressed. I might just "go Jap" and kill myself. This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Nipponese-American—a friendly sushi chef in New York, say, or Pat Morita—discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his Axis history in an act of samurai violence against his fellow Americans.
I would have voted for Pat because of his utter shameless hypocritical pandering (or as I think of it, the usual), but the south Asian dude won my heart by clarifying that, when Scott Roeder played the part of Christian warrior by going into a church and murdering George Tiller, he actually wasn't Going Christian, he was Going Muslim.
Still...Pat Robertson has much more to lose by the focus staying on religion period, as he is one of its main pervertors in the U.S.--and a lovely cash cow it is for him.
Pat, I'd like to treat certain fascist sects of Christianity, especially all you self-piteous, righteous, philandering, child-molesting, doctor killing, rifle-toting, condemning all religions and everyone else who doesn't follow your tenants because life should just be about intolerance and moonshine...like the group of mental patients you really are. #religion
I like Tunku Varadarajan's point. There are a lot of Muslims around who seem to be integrated into America's gentle, peaceful, gun-hating way of life--but probably they're just secret maniacs in disguise. #religion
For a man named 'Tunku', this guy has some balls. Hey Tunku, thanks for importing your very special Hindu fundamentalist brahminic pride into this issue. Nothing like a little upper-caste Hindu resentment against Muslims disguised as factual analysis to clarify this whole thing and cut through the bullshit. Oh and the next time a crazy right-winger (redundant!) decides you're Middle-Eastern and calls you a turrist, be sure to alert the media, won't you? I'm sure your xenophobic, conservative American buddies on the right will be only too glad to help and will no doubt speak out against the outrage. #religion
@Wrapitup: You’re assuming an awful lot based on his name. There’s no need to drag his heritage into the discussion or threaten him. In fact, he has written against fascist Hindu elements:
"What we are witnessing in India is the growth of a sort of Hindu Taliban movement. Although it is difficult to gauge the numbers accurately, the various extremist groups are believed to have tens of thousands of supporters. In recent years, Muslims have been their principal victims."
Nidal Hasan was a mild-mannered Army psychologist. Then, one day, he was exposed to a dangerous amount of the Qu'ran. Unable to control the turmoil raging within, when he bows towards Mecca five times daily, he turns into
THE ISLAMIC HULK!
"RAWR! HULK MAD! HULK ADOPT RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM AND TAKE VIOLENT STANCE AGAINST THE SYMBOLS OF WESTERN EXCESS! HULK SMASH AMERICA BECAUSE OF INVOLVEMENT IN MIDDLE EAST AFFAIRS! HULK SMASH WOMEN WHO NOT WEAR BURQA!" #religion
According to NPR and the WashPo, discussions at Walter Reed about terminating his fellowship for poor performance and things like trying to convert at least one patient, hit the brick wall of: "Can we afford to fire one of the few Muslims we have?"
So will it be a "backlash" when poor performers are terminated, regardless of their previously 'special' status? #religion
@Novaload: Wait, when they said, "can we afford to fire one of the few Muslims we have," was it because they were afraid of firing Muslims despite their poor performance? Because I think that "poor performance" is the one thing you're always allowed to fire people for.
Or was it, "can we afford to fire on the of the few Muslims we have" in the sense that, "Because this guy is a Muslim psychologist, he is able to bring certain useful skills to the table, such as a perspective for dealing with other Muslim patients, which obviate his poor performance"? Because it it's that one, it's a judgment call on Walter Reed's behalf, and I don't see any reason why other institutions would feel that a largely unrelated case would have any bearing. #religion
@braak: No, it was the former. NPR had a lengthy report on this. There was a strong sentiment that it would "look bad" to fire a Muslim, even though they had largely decided he should not carry the Walter Reed name. He was an unsatisfactory performer in many respects and over a long period of time. (The WashPo even has the slide show he presented at Grand Rounds on Jihad.)
So their political correctness phobia led to the deaths and injuries of innocent people. #religion
@Novaload: They should re-evaluate their position on what "looks bad" then. Or, maybe do what they're paid to do, and prioritize the safety and well-being of the Army above their reputation.
Though causal relationships are always difficult to show. Lot's of things led to the deaths and injuries of innocent people there; Hassan being a lousy psychologist doesn't necessarily equate to him being a secret maniac. #religion
@braak: It wasn't just "lousy" but the kind of discipline and appropriateness in behavior and conduct that should, along with other things, have been a huge red flag. Yeah, if they thought it would have "looked bad" to fire him, how much worse does it look now? #religion
@Novaload: oooh, ooh: I have something to say. A few years back uniformed officers at the Air Force Academy were trying to convert students to eangelical chrstianity -- and there were videotapes of officers in Iraq contemplating/discussing the same thing with Muslims they came into contact with. So Hasan was just doing his thing, with the converting. Time honored. #religion
@the_woog: I heard about that, as well as other instances in the Army. There's only one report of Hasan doing this, and that was rather a drop in the bucket with the rest of his performance issues. #religion
@Novaload: I don't know that it's necessarily political correctness that leads to things like this. More like fear of lawsuits. At my last job, if you weren't a white male under 40 it was nearly impossible to get fired unless they set fire to the building and stole the weekly payroll because our boss was afraid of a discrimination lawsuit. He said that even if there was documentation of "poor performance" it would cost a lot of money to fight a lawsuit because the worker would just claim it was a pretext. #religion
@Beau Nerd: Shh. We are infiltrating the cheerleading squads of your American football teams even now. This year, it will truly be a Super Bowl to remember. #religion
I would like to remind these men that the Oklahoma Bombing was not a Muslim plot, yet was much more deadly. The Greensboro Massacre was not a Muslim plot, but one perpetrated by KKK and the Nazi sympathizers. Ugly comes in all forms; generalizing based on religion is not productive. Attempting to further your agenda based upon the action of one deranged person gets you nowhere, except further into the bowels of hatred. #religion
@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: The problem is that you don't have Tunku Vadarajan's perspective. If we had know then what we know now, we'd realize that Timothy McVeigh was actually going Muslim. #religion
So you are dealing with not a religion. You're dealing with a political system. And I think we should treat it as such and treat its adherences as such as we would members of the Communist Party or members of some fascist group.
Agreed. We should offer them constitutionally-protected free speech, the right to vote and peaceably assemble, to petition the government for redress of grievances, and to worship or not in the peaceful manner they choose. #religion
@Swifter: I can't help but wonder how Pat would react if someone suggested that Evangelists should also be treated as members of a political group, and not a religion. Same argument, different target. Ball's in your court, Robertson. #religion
@Swifter: I think what Pat is getting at here is that he would like to see them lose their religious tax exemption. As would I. And I would also like for Pat to lose his tax exemption as well. Let's face it. At this point, they're all political parties/businesses. #religion
@iplaudius: If only! He's actually at NYU's Stern Business School and Stanford's Hoover Institute, so he's more likely to ensnare you in a ponzi scheme and then carpet-bomb your house. Only liberal pantywaists and terrorists actually engage in hand-to-hand combat anymore, dontchaknow? #religion
@flossy: Ah, the WSJ biography is out-of-date. And he was only an adjunct professor at Columbia, which probably just means no closed-fist punching, just light bitch slaps and hair-pulling. #religion
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I got this new album that totally rocks. I'm going to "go Negro" and drive around blasting it. This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated African-American—a friendly welfare recipient in New York, say, or a racy comedian—discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his race in an act of antisocial aural assault against his fellow Americans.
I'm totally ready for that physics test. I'm going to "go Chinese" all over it. This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Chinese-American—a friendly dry cleaner in New York, say, or an office worker in middle America—discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his motherland in an act of excellence at science, ruining the curve for his fellow Americans.
I feel so depressed. I might just "go Jap" and kill myself. This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Nipponese-American—a friendly sushi chef in New York, say, or Pat Morita—discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his Axis history in an act of samurai violence against his fellow Americans.
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Still...Pat Robertson has much more to lose by the focus staying on religion period, as he is one of its main pervertors in the U.S.--and a lovely cash cow it is for him.
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"What we are witnessing in India is the growth of a sort of Hindu Taliban movement. Although it is difficult to gauge the numbers accurately, the various extremist groups are believed to have tens of thousands of supporters. In recent years, Muslims have been their principal victims."
[www.nytimes.com] #religion
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You say Islam is a political ideology, not a religion.
SO WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST THIRTY YEARS?
Sincerely,
Everyone #religion
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He makes it sound like the Hulk.
Nidal Hasan was a mild-mannered Army psychologist. Then, one day, he was exposed to a dangerous amount of the Qu'ran. Unable to control the turmoil raging within, when he bows towards Mecca five times daily, he turns into
THE ISLAMIC HULK!
"RAWR! HULK MAD! HULK ADOPT RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM AND TAKE VIOLENT STANCE AGAINST THE SYMBOLS OF WESTERN EXCESS! HULK SMASH AMERICA BECAUSE OF INVOLVEMENT IN MIDDLE EAST AFFAIRS! HULK SMASH WOMEN WHO NOT WEAR BURQA!" #religion
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So will it be a "backlash" when poor performers are terminated, regardless of their previously 'special' status? #religion
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Or was it, "can we afford to fire on the of the few Muslims we have" in the sense that, "Because this guy is a Muslim psychologist, he is able to bring certain useful skills to the table, such as a perspective for dealing with other Muslim patients, which obviate his poor performance"? Because it it's that one, it's a judgment call on Walter Reed's behalf, and I don't see any reason why other institutions would feel that a largely unrelated case would have any bearing. #religion
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So their political correctness phobia led to the deaths and injuries of innocent people. #religion
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Though causal relationships are always difficult to show. Lot's of things led to the deaths and injuries of innocent people there; Hassan being a lousy psychologist doesn't necessarily equate to him being a secret maniac. #religion
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(Obviously doesn't refute your point, just sayin...) #religion
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Did I miss the story about a donut vendor shooting up Times Square or something recently? #religion
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So, strippers. Watch out for terrorist strippers. #religion
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Agreed. We should offer them constitutionally-protected free speech, the right to vote and peaceably assemble, to petition the government for redress of grievances, and to worship or not in the peaceful manner they choose. #religion
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