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    How the Nazis Stole Christmas

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    Image of formergr formergr
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    So is Godwin just automatically invoked for this thread? Does that mean the thread no longer exists? It's all very existential for a Wednesday lunch hour...
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    Image of se7a7n7 se7a7n7
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    Here's a link to the page translated into English...

    [foxyurl.com]
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    Image of BookishLookish BookishLookish
    11/18/09

    In reply to For Christmas, Condé Nast Will Party at a Restaurant Now-Defunct Gourmet Magazine Once Heralded
    I have never been able to get around the name of this place: "a radiant light around the head" has never made me feel the least bit peckish. Also makes me think of lady nips; ditto.
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    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    it lost me at the "tried to turn it into a pagan holiday" part.

    CHRISTMAS IS A PAGAN HOLIDAY! The Christians STOLE it to convert the pagans. This ISNT bullshit being made up by "non-believers" even the catholic church admits this fact they converted pagan holidays like solstice into holidays celebrating Christ to ease the pagans into converting!
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/18/09

    @Jim Topoleski: Christmas is not a pagan holiday. YULE is a pagan holiday. Christmas just leveraged the Yulethusiasm of the season and took over. That doesn't mean it's a pagan holiday.
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    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/19/09

    @raincoaster: Christmas keeps just about all of the pagan trappings and adds the christ story to the mix.

    Yule log? Christmas Tree? The giving of presents? Caroling (ie singing)? The gathering of family? Spiced wine and even eggnog? Santa Clause? Even the "12 days" of christmas where ALL part of the pagan celebration in one form or another before the Christ part was added.

    The only thing "Christ" like about Christmas was the nativity, thats it. Everything else is pagan.
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    11/19/09

    @Jim Topoleski: I never said we didn't steal the clothes. What I said was, we got away with it.
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    Image of Mike Jahn Mike Jahn
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    A year or so ago I was covering something that also drew a bunch of German reporters. They assumed that I speak their charming language because I have a German last name. I told them, "I only know three words in German -- 'arbeit macht frei.'" They didn't speak to me again.
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    Image of Mike Jahn Mike Jahn
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    "Rudolph with your nose so bright, help me bomb the towns tonight."
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    Image of limber limber
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    Children lay tucked up in their beds, vaguely terrified by the thought of one of Sleipnir's eight hooves stomping through the roof, and hoping they could just fall asleep before Odin the scary one-eyed hobo crawled out of the fireplace.
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    Image of BookishLookish BookishLookish
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    "Surprisingly, German churches put up little opposition to the Nazification of Christmas. 'You would have expected them to protest loudly and insist that it was a Christian festival,' said Breuer. 'But instead they largely kept quiet, out of fear.' "

    Wow, that's a shocker.
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    Image of Awesome X Awesome X
    11/18/09

    @BookishLookish: What excuse do churches use for not loudly protesting the corporatization of Christmas? Fear of not getting an Xbox 360?
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    Image of BookishLookish BookishLookish
    11/18/09

    @Awesome X: Now, now, some churches down south put up "Jesus is the reason for the season" on their notice boards.
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    Image of Awesome X Awesome X
    11/18/09

    @BookishLookish: Right, I forgot about those. And some write stern letters to editors that are read and well-liked by other pastors and God-fearers. Oh, oh. And Bill O'Reilly defending Christmas in the War Against Christmas! Duh. I'm so dumb. I should add, I love corporate Christmas. Love it. I love lights and red decor and gift-shopping and huge feasts based mostly on Emeril and Rachael Ray recipes and peppermint mochas from Starbucks.
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    11/18/09

    @Awesome X: Meh, "Corpmas," I can take it or leave it. I'm a Jew who married into a Southern Methodist family. My mother-in-law showers me with gifts (mostly for pushing out a rugrat six years ago), and it gets me into a slightly warmer climate for a week, but the downside? I truly despise the Tyranny of the Christmas Sweater, which I find visually offensive.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    11/18/09

    @BookishLookish: Love feasts!

    ""The term "Methodism" was a pejorative term given to a small society of students at Oxford who met together between 1729 and 1735 for the purpose of mutual improvement. They were accustomed to receiving communion every week, fasting regularly, and abstaining from most forms of amusement and luxury. They also frequently visited the sick and the poor, as well as prisoners.
    The early Methodists acted against perceived apathy in the Church of England, preaching in the open air and establishing Methodist societies wherever they went. These societies were divided into groups called classes — intimate meetings where individuals were encouraged to confess their sins to one another and to build each other up. They also took part in love feasts which allowed for the sharing of testimony, a key feature of early Methodists."
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    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    There's a chestnuts roasting on an open fire joke opportunity here that I am simply not going to take.
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    11/18/09

    @contradicto: Ha! back atcha!
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    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    "I'm... dreaming... of a whiiiiiiite Christmas..."
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    11/18/09

    @Perhaps Not: Ha!
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/18/09

    In reply to For Christmas, Condé Nast Will Party at a Restaurant Now-Defunct Gourmet Magazine Once Heralded
    are all the laid off folks invited too? If not I think they should all show up and press their faces against those "big windows looking out on 42nd street"
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    Image of Mike Jahn Mike Jahn
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    The ultimate solution to the Santa problem.
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    Image of Mike Jahn Mike Jahn
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    "Deck the halls with waves of bombers."
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    Image of Sergio Hernandez Sergio Hernandez
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    I'm kind of amazed that, given the context of Nazis and December holidays here, no one's made a single reference to Hanukkah yet.

    Although I guess I just did, then.
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    Image of Mike Jahn Mike Jahn
    11/18/09

    In reply to How the Nazis Stole Christmas
    "Have yourself a merry little blitzkreig."
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