"Facebook's mission, he says, is to be used by everyone in the world to share information seamlessly."
Not every individual in the world is a petty, self-aggrandizing, self-conscience teenager. Some people work for their accomplishments and are too busy to be bothered by such trifling immaturity. Some people are humble.
Unlike the "I'm CEO Bitch" who thinks his website is the only way "Share information seamlessly". Congrats for discovering the internet. At this rate, even with VC, by the time you've learned enough to get by, you'll be bankrupt and forgotten.
"Facebook has also become a vehicle for broad-based activism ..." blah blah something about a protest.
As if scheduling books and chain mail haven't existed for the past century. Wow, why don't you go event RSVP?
Most facebook groups amount to little or no effort apart from clicking "Join". Perhaps 10% of them will make a half-hearted wallpost, then resume refreshing their profile (Not their news feed, people care about themselves more).
Worse yet, the groups suck, and the beliefs of college kids are usually 1.) Very opinionated 2.) Extremely naïve 3.) Self-conscience and paranoid as hell.
@Fabian S Norman: "He's damn right." I love the obnoxiousness with with Zuckercox's (heh) apologists launch their defenses. Ditto "retarded."
Of course it's not a democracy. No business is. But most businesses that disregard their customers find that people still vote with their feet (or, in this case, their mouse). Facebook now has an effective (if by no means permanent) monopoly on a universal-scale social network. (And we know that the value of a social network increases exponentially with its size.) People can't easily choose to leave, though it seems they will certainly spend less time on the site, since the most viral and interactive elements have been removed.
To say the problem is that users don't want to take the time to learn the new interface is, excuse the expression, retarded. We all know how to use it. We just don't like it, because the home page now spews a real-time stream of trivia from people of marginal interest, skewed toward the attention hogs rather than people we care about the most (as on the old home page).
See the quote in the NYT story from Cox, who "envisions users announcing where they are going to lunch as they leave their computers so friends can see the updates and join them." Gah! DO NOT WANT. I have a controlled list of friends on Foursquare with whom I may share location info, but I sure don't want all my FB friends showing up at my lunch and I don't think many people do
The Twitter-lusting FB team believes we want up-to-the-minute rather than relevant info, and lost sight of the fact that the filtering/curating function of the FB homepage was the key to its appeal. The old interface surfaced items, often days old, of interest; under the new interface, that information is lost.
But by arguing that people would rather bitch rather than educating themselves when that's completely beside the point -- it seems like you've just done that yourself.
I am glad for your comment. Yes. He is retreating into himself.
The stark reality... Imagine this:
Comparing the CEO of Oracle to the CEO of Facebook.
Who has more hot air? Facebook's attempt to grab investor is Zuck wearing a tie saying "2009 is an important year", and after a row over privacy violations, a "bill of rights" by the users. Now, after explicitly showing us he's too inept to offer fair privacy conditions himself, he's saying "I'm the leader".
This whole "Visionary" thing of viewing every valley CEO as a reincarnation of Christ has to die.
They need to be shitting themselves. Because people are incredibly quick to drop social networking services (see: Friendster, Myspace). I like my facebook account, but if it turns into a spam machine or basically becomes useless, I will probably move onto to another service, delete my personal info (which is a lengthy, annoying process in and of itself) and just move on to the next big service that will rise from facebook's ruins.
The only proper response to the hubbub is "What are you going to do about it?"
Seriously. People made a petition and "signed" it - a process that involves about 10 seconds of clicking. If people don't like it, what are they going to do? Flee Facebook? Yeah right. For what? MySpace? Twitter? Yeah right.
Someone should send Zuckerberg a nice wheel of Camembert for that surrender-monkey to chow down on.
And where's the content filter for bullshit quizzes? Yeah, yeah, that's the whole point of the new filters for application data that are coming in the next few weeks. Blah, blah, blah.
All I know, is before I didn't have to "filter" my content. I saw links. I saw videos. I saw uploaded or tagged photos. I saw who became friends with whom. I saw the result to the bullshit quizzes only if someone decided to publish that result. That's what I want back.
Also, next friend of mine that takes some quiz like "what kind of shoes are you" or "what pooh character are you" is getting defriended. This is on you Zuckerberg, because before I DID NOT SEE ALL THAT SHIT!
How'd you get ahold of my cat and what are you doing it her!?!?!
My grief with the site is the same as everyone else, and yes, my work productivity has increased only sightly, because now instead of spending mass amounts of time on FB I now come on here and bitch about the changes.
So...still no way to see in your feed when people add friends? That's the best way for people to randomly find and be found by people they haven't seen in years.
That is, to me, is one of the best things about FB (and if you don't want to reacquaint yourself with someone, it's easy to ignore the friend request or block them, so no harm done.)
@VoxPopuli: Me three. I've found far more people I might know with seeing who my friends added than the 'Who you might know' section which pulls up ridiculous matches while ignoring obvious ones.
@VoxPopuli: Also apparently no way to tell when someone drops off your friends list. An ex of mine finally got a clue and removed me from his friends, but I have no idea when to celebrate the blessed event because there was no update! Nice, right?
@Eleiren Bowen: I don't think Facebook has ever let people know when they've been de-friended. That's why they had such a problem with Burger King's "Whopper Sacrifice" app, since it told people that their friends dropped them for the burger.
Never in my fifteen years of UI hustling have I ever seen such a horribly laid-out site, especially on one where people (including lots of oldes, lulz) have gotten accustomed to certain basic items where they should expect them. All of a sudden, basic tenets of the site (i.e., GROUPS, EVENTS) are not just shuffled onscreen, they're just plain missing.. as in, where the hell did they go? Upon searching forums that discuss this stuff, people have suggested going to this menu and hitting that tab and looking near the bottom.. so unnecessary.
A classic "if it ain't broke.." .. but unlike New Coke, I don't think this was a publicity stunt at all.. I'm sure Zuckerberg is scratching his head..
03/29/09
03/29/09
Not every individual in the world is a petty, self-aggrandizing, self-conscience teenager. Some people work for their accomplishments and are too busy to be bothered by such trifling immaturity. Some people are humble.
Unlike the "I'm CEO Bitch" who thinks his website is the only way "Share information seamlessly". Congrats for discovering the internet. At this rate, even with VC, by the time you've learned enough to get by, you'll be bankrupt and forgotten.
03/29/09
As if scheduling books and chain mail haven't existed for the past century. Wow, why don't you go event RSVP?
Most facebook groups amount to little or no effort apart from clicking "Join". Perhaps 10% of them will make a half-hearted wallpost, then resume refreshing their profile (Not their news feed, people care about themselves more).
Worse yet, the groups suck, and the beliefs of college kids are usually 1.) Very opinionated 2.) Extremely naïve 3.) Self-conscience and paranoid as hell.
03/29/09
Yes.
Personal = 90% Acquaintances who hardly know you
Business = Nobodies, wannabes, fakes, frauds
Networking = Loose connections which amount to nothing
Tool = E-mail and cell phone
If you want to get a job, stick to working hard and making a CV. Wallposts and favorite music aren't going to get you on the board of Yahoo.
03/28/09
Of course it's not a democracy. No business is. But most businesses that disregard their customers find that people still vote with their feet (or, in this case, their mouse). Facebook now has an effective (if by no means permanent) monopoly on a universal-scale social network. (And we know that the value of a social network increases exponentially with its size.) People can't easily choose to leave, though it seems they will certainly spend less time on the site, since the most viral and interactive elements have been removed.
To say the problem is that users don't want to take the time to learn the new interface is, excuse the expression, retarded. We all know how to use it. We just don't like it, because the home page now spews a real-time stream of trivia from people of marginal interest, skewed toward the attention hogs rather than people we care about the most (as on the old home page).
See the quote in the NYT story from Cox, who "envisions users announcing where they are going to lunch as they leave their computers so friends can see the updates and join them." Gah! DO NOT WANT. I have a controlled list of friends on Foursquare with whom I may share location info, but I sure don't want all my FB friends showing up at my lunch and I don't think many people do
The Twitter-lusting FB team believes we want up-to-the-minute rather than relevant info, and lost sight of the fact that the filtering/curating function of the FB homepage was the key to its appeal. The old interface surfaced items, often days old, of interest; under the new interface, that information is lost.
But by arguing that people would rather bitch rather than educating themselves when that's completely beside the point -- it seems like you've just done that yourself.
03/29/09
How out-of-touch and crazy is that? Your vision sucks, Cox. Heh. Sucks, Cox.
03/29/09
Why do you need to call it stupid. Just quote it. People will figure it out.
03/29/09
I am glad for your comment. Yes. He is retreating into himself.
The stark reality... Imagine this:
Comparing the CEO of Oracle to the CEO of Facebook.
Who has more hot air? Facebook's attempt to grab investor is Zuck wearing a tie saying "2009 is an important year", and after a row over privacy violations, a "bill of rights" by the users. Now, after explicitly showing us he's too inept to offer fair privacy conditions himself, he's saying "I'm the leader".
This whole "Visionary" thing of viewing every valley CEO as a reincarnation of Christ has to die.
03/28/09
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03/25/09
Seriously. People made a petition and "signed" it - a process that involves about 10 seconds of clicking. If people don't like it, what are they going to do? Flee Facebook? Yeah right. For what? MySpace? Twitter? Yeah right.
Someone should send Zuckerberg a nice wheel of Camembert for that surrender-monkey to chow down on.
03/25/09
This is why every website like this eventually dies down. The wealthy ones:
1.) Sell out
2.) Are nescessary market nexus (Amazon, eBay)
(Widgets market nexus)
Hasn't history tought these cocky tards anything?
Us humans believe that "Here and now" will last forever. Not true. Never true.
03/25/09
All I know, is before I didn't have to "filter" my content. I saw links. I saw videos. I saw uploaded or tagged photos. I saw who became friends with whom. I saw the result to the bullshit quizzes only if someone decided to publish that result. That's what I want back.
Also, next friend of mine that takes some quiz like "what kind of shoes are you" or "what pooh character are you" is getting defriended. This is on you Zuckerberg, because before I DID NOT SEE ALL THAT SHIT!
Hating it.
03/25/09
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My grief with the site is the same as everyone else, and yes, my work productivity has increased only sightly, because now instead of spending mass amounts of time on FB I now come on here and bitch about the changes.
03/24/09
That is, to me, is one of the best things about FB (and if you don't want to reacquaint yourself with someone, it's easy to ignore the friend request or block them, so no harm done.)
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03/24/09
You think they actually know anything about usability?
03/24/09
A classic "if it ain't broke.." .. but unlike New Coke, I don't think this was a publicity stunt at all.. I'm sure Zuckerberg is scratching his head..
03/25/09