Grazie, I was looking for links that would validate the claim that Italian spies are incompetent. This could also be done with a movie about a viagra-popping Clouseau-like character, codenamed "Beppo De Gennaro." Is Marcello Mastroianni still around?
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This looks like more fun than Dante's Inferno, and a much quicker read. Any up for translating 9 pages of butt-gusting Italian?
Armando Spataro, the deputy public prosecutor in Milan, said in his closing argument Wednesday that it was "unthinkable" that the U.S. policy of extraordinary rendition should trump Italian law, which forbids kidnapping.
"Here, Italian law rules, not American law or any other law," he said.
Ok, "extraordinary rendition" does not trump the Italian law. What about "we are the land of freedom"? I'm pretty sure that one trumps all laws in all foreign countries. Not to mention all logic in the entire Universe too!
In all seriousness, what would the US do if a bunch of Italian secret agents kidnapped our CIA torturers? Complain? I don't see Obama invading Italy, even if he'd like to deck the Berlusconi. #italy
Even if his his waterboarding and ritual abuse program never yielded a scrap of intelligence that was of value, Cheney will claim that it did. And he'll have the idiots and morons in this country who believe torture is a good idea to back him up, simply because they're fucked up sadists.
This finding is yet another nail in the coffin of the pro-torture argument, which never really needed to go beyond: because it's illegal.
Whatever happened to truth serums? It was used with great effect on both agents 86 and 99, *and* the chief. We have what, like, half a trillion in unaccounted spying expenditure and we can't come up with something that works as well as beer and a blowjob?
I once lived in a completely crime- and mostly terrorism-free. Here's how it works: whenever something bad happens you round up as many people as you can. Let's say they're all just as likely to be guilty because of the things they say and the people they hang out with and the things they've done in the past. And you take this group of suspects and beat the living fuck out of them. You might even place them on a chair with a hole in the center of it and raise it into their anuses until they confess. Or someone confesses. But usually the bad thing stops happening because NO ONE LIKES HAVING RED HOT METAL SHOVED UP THEIR ASS. (Just as no one, apparently, likes being drowned.)
So, yeah, absolutely, torture works.
Thing is, countries that do this are like, I don't know, Syria. Here in the United States we don't do this. By law. By convention. By treaty. By motherfucking obligation. We. Don't. Torture.
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These 22 guys won't be able to travel to much of anywhere in Europe, since intra-European extradition is a breeze. #italy
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Links, please. #italy
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Grazie, I was looking for links that would validate the claim that Italian spies are incompetent. This could also be done with a movie about a viagra-popping Clouseau-like character, codenamed "Beppo De Gennaro." Is Marcello Mastroianni still around?
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This looks like more fun than Dante's Inferno, and a much quicker read. Any up for translating 9 pages of butt-gusting Italian?
[www.sicurezzanazionale.gov.it] #italy
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"Here, Italian law rules, not American law or any other law," he said.
Ok, "extraordinary rendition" does not trump the Italian law. What about "we are the land of freedom"? I'm pretty sure that one trumps all laws in all foreign countries. Not to mention all logic in the entire Universe too!
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@Niko Bellic: Chuck Norris trumps all laws in all foreign countries.
Chuck Norris is the law.
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In all seriousness, what would the US do if a bunch of Italian secret agents kidnapped our CIA torturers? Complain? I don't see Obama invading Italy, even if he'd like to deck the Berlusconi. #italy
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This finding is yet another nail in the coffin of the pro-torture argument, which never really needed to go beyond: because it's illegal.
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So, yeah, absolutely, torture works.
Thing is, countries that do this are like, I don't know, Syria. Here in the United States we don't do this. By law. By convention. By treaty. By motherfucking obligation. We. Don't. Torture.