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    10/31/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Biden was the most inscrutable choice, ever, for VP. Instead of "change" Obama brought out an old hack, who had trouble with both truth telling, even during the campaign, and with inserting his foot into his mouth. Oh, to know what kind of negotiation that was, to get him on the ticket---except, perhaps to allay terrified old white guys who feared a woman and a (half)black man on the ticket would bring on the apocalypse. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    apparently I am in the minority, but I love Joe Biden! I think he's like the lovable Steve Urkel of the White House. He comes in, says stupid stuff, knocks shit over, and is like "Did I do that?" Oh Joe. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Joe Biden is everything thats wrong and fucked up with congress. This dope won his seat in the Senate when he was 29 and has never had another job until being VP. He has learned about as much about how the country works from his perch in DC as Palin learned about Russia from staring at it. He is walking proof we need term limits.

    And he doesn't drink. I don't trust people who don't drink, unless they've already been alcoholics. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Why is it that I feel compelled to defend Gawker's subject matter against the editors/writers at least once a day lately?

    Either this new crop of staff writers is utterly fucked, or the editorial direction has taken a nosedive, or both.

    Is there some negative correlation between the quality of stories and the quality of AJAX/CSS? #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: From where I'm standing, it would appear to be a positive correlation. It's a good day when I get tripped up by fewer than five unresponsive scripts, infinite waits for comments to load or what have you. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @romulus: The site gets prettier, and the content gets lamer. Just callin it as I see it. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: Oh yeah, I didn't mean to quibble. I agree that the site gets fancier all the time, but features seem to break often. I should have added before that it could well be my OS and browser causing headaches most readers don't experience. And in all fairness, I haven't been reading long enough to judge contemporary content against the past. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Not sure what point you're trying to make, Amrita... that you think Cheney's worldview makes some sense? That Cheney was initially popular, before everything he did brought his popularity rating to a low of 28%? I love it that Biden is willing to call a moron a moron. This is a ridiculous post. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Oh, and if you're trying to poke fun at Vice Prez Biden for weeping during the debate when he spoke about his first wife and baby daughter who died, well then, that's just messed up. #joebiden
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    10/31/09

    @Conchie Birdie: One might argue that it was the worst kind of political hackdom for him to bring them up expressly to show his "empathy" side and try to squeeze a tear out of his plastic-surgeryized eye slots. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    I'm absolutely NOT a supporter of ANYTHING Dick says... but, Good Lawwd, Biden, Bin Laden will always BE a part of the issue. I'm sorry, I guess if you had the prez saying this I could understand... but, uh, Joe? Nope.

    That being said, why are we posting crap from Fox News anyway - I thought we weren't supposed to take this stuff seriously?
    #joebiden
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    08/24/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    Some fact checker should have flagged the "96 percent of the Penney’s inventory is made of polyester" line as perhaps a tad exaggerated. Maybe Alessandra Stanley can loan out hers.
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    08/24/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    You can say whatever you want, about whomever you want, but you need to make it funny, and this wasn't. That's my main complaint. This was really better sent as an email to a friend, or as a too-long anecdote over brunch when everyone else is dying to get a word in edgewise and change the fucking subject.

    People are defending her out of hometown pride or hating her out of her prejudice, but I want to change the subject: I found the piece to be clumsy. It's overwrought. Her phrases just don't make sense to me, like "imperturbably clunky," and they're ugly. It's maybe high school newspaper level, but not what I would want from this level of paper.

    If you take her dangerous edge away, is she really a writer? I don't know; if this is a representative sample of her work, I don't want to read anything else.

    How do writers like Wilson (and Alessandra Stanley) get and stay in the NY Times? Because I'm sure there are better people who can write funny, assholish columns hating fatties and loving Manhattan who will defend them with panache and no remorse.
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    08/24/09

    @booge: not mention her audience is only, as she admits herself, about 1,300 people. and most of them live in CT. HOW DOES SHE HAVE A JOB?
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    08/24/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    Penneys has an advertising budget of around $1.4b and a stated goal to increase their expenditures online, while "Hipster Boutique" has a homeless dude distributing flyers printed on a home computer.

    The NYTimes spends a lot of money every day to promote home delivery on cable television throughout the country. You can buy a same day copy of the Times in every medium-sized city and it has one of the most popular websites in the world.

    Penneys is considered an American institution. Their stores are throughout the country and though they may have some off-years, pretty much everyone shops in Penneys from time to time.

    Ironic hipsters in New York City might decide to overpay for colored tees, but they don't generally read theTimes, if they read at all and if a columnist were to insult one of their favorite boutiques, they might not even know its name.

    Penneys is a national insititution and pretty much everyone outside of the largest cities has something in their closet from the store, so the consumer backlash can be understood. Penneys also has a huge advertising budget and though it might be "cool" to let some unknown feature writer say whatever they please, the Times really can't alienate the purse.
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    08/23/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    you know what? the nyt is -- and ought to be -- an elitist instituion. it's what they do. now the mannequin line may have been more suitable for the gawker comments section than for the newspaper of record, i'll admit, but the lady did write some pretty respectable things about the store, its employees, and its customers.

    and whats with the apologizing? pandering to the lowest common denominator of american culture is not going to save their sinking ship. that crowd hates the nyt and the 'liberal east coast media' anyway -- and it's a safe bet this will be all over fox and friends tomorrow ('nyt not in touch with real americans, elitist snobs!'). and maybe some of us are! shoot, i ought to be shopping at penney's but dammit if i don't aspire to bloomingdales!

    nyt, rein in the cheap shots, but never stop calling a spade a spade. if i want to read fluff, i'll read the usa today or some other crap.
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    08/24/09

    @maddoxhair: I am a liberal east coaster and reader of the Times. I was not aware that such a label required me to be a freaking size 0-2. Please tell me the chapter of the Liberal East Coaster handbook that little tidbit of yours resides in.
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    08/23/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    there's this: it is what a lot of us were thinking. but that doesn't mean print it in the nyt.
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    08/23/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    Wilson's lucky to be employed, much less at the NYT. I wonder who actually goes to the stores for her.
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    08/23/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    Big box hipster superstores like American Apparel and Urban Outfitters are as culturally distasteful as JCPenny but for even more insidious reasons.

    At least the people shopping at JCPenny are trying to make a living on their own money.
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    08/23/09

    @Soup: God, those American Apparel stores are so fucking bright I'm sure they're visible from space. Is that really necessary? Somehow I'm thinking no.
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    08/23/09

    @Soup: Sure! So are Abercrombie and Fitches. And American Eagles. Etc, etc. And yes, we've all heard the Hipsters Are Trust Fund Babies generalization repeatedly. But to pigeonhole all JC Penny shoppers as blue collar is kind of, I don't know, gauche?
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    08/23/09

    @Foster Kamer: Far less gauche than calling them fat.

    They're honorable, working class people! Sure, maybe their taste in fashion is lacking but earning an honest living is a quality I find more admirable than trendy and douchey.
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    08/23/09

    @Soup: Oh, come on. Again: an obvious, populist play! Not everyone who shops at JC Penneys are working class or earn an honest living. Let's move past the "heart of America" bullshit.
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    08/23/09

    @Soup: Hooray! So by definition, living in a major metropolitan city means that, whatever you do, your money is earned dishonestly!
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    08/23/09

    In reply to Fat-Hating, Midwesterner-Mocking New York Times Writer Taken to Task
    Cintra, I feel your hatred of the evil corporation, JC Penny's. Their horrible fashions ruined my life. My Dad ran off when I was teen. Took all the cash but left his JC Penny's charge card. I had to buy all my clothes there since we were destitute and also so he would know we still existed by way of the bill. I then took a job in the Junior's department so I could get a discount on the crappy clothing for our family, and bonus, listen to Rick Astley and Debbie Gibson on loop! I had tarted up the clothing I purchased because I figured slutty was better than dorky, this led to dating older men with mullets who drove Firebird's and ingesting copious amounts of booze and drugs with said men. I left school with a G.E.D and bad grammar. I also left behind my dreams of moving to New York and settled into a working class life. I come to this site as well as other New York centric sites to read the writing and witty comments and to beat myself up for not pursuing my dreams. But every so often I come upon articles like this, about people like you, and I realize I could have turned out much worse.
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    08/23/09

    @SouthernComfort: Perfection.
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    08/23/09

    @SouthernComfort: This comment was absolutely fantastic. Huzzah.
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    08/23/09

    @SouthernComfort: hearted. i'm from nyc, born and raised, and i hate the dumbass transplants who call themselves nyers and act like hicks with the heat of 1k white hot suns. also.
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    08/23/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: You must REALLY hate those NYU kids.
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    08/23/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: Like you, I was born and raised here. In my Brooklyn neighborhood, there are tons of asshats who just got off the plane who believe themselves to be the most down New Yorkers you'll ever meet! And they have the fucking gall to look at me wondering just what the hell I'm doing there.
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    08/23/09

    @SouthernComfort: Yup. Firebird + Thunderbird + Wonderbread = Inbred.
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    08/23/09

    @SouthernComfort: What a fantastic rant. Brava, brava!
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    08/24/09

    @SouthernComfort: I don’t know whether that was autobiography or wholesale fiction, but, whatever the case, it was dazzling.
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    08/24/09

    @Mister K: especially. yes. also.
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    08/24/09

    @OrneryBabe: many of them will be gone in1-3 years. i remember the tech bust of 2000 (not long before 9.11) and that cleared out a lot of the poseurs
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    08/24/09

    @SouthernComfort: maybe you could be a penny's spokesperson as the ideal target customer. revenge/justice sort of like maybe
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