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Trai_Dep
08/04/09

In reply to FBI Agent Thinks the Green Party Is a Terrorist Group With Nukes
"Of particular interest to to the agent was a Green Party members' [sic] writings on 'marijuana reform, reparations, civil unions, repeal of the Patriot Act, and homosexual issues.'"
Uh oh. Next week, the FBI declares the state of California an unlawful enemy combatant.
Although, really, some perspective, Mr FBI: Teh Gays only have "issues" with mullets and subpar remixes of Lady GaGa.
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Cam/ron
08/04/09

In reply to FBI Agent Thinks the Green Party Is a Terrorist Group With Nukes
Strange, the Greens usually plot to disarm the West's nukes so that the Heartland can be easy pickins for the Ruskies. Oh wait, I have to stop watching "Red Dawn" and "Amerika."
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JacquesPaysan
08/04/09

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This is the same agency that, for the last eight years, has been ignoring every heavily-armed right wing extremist group inside the country, while vigorously pursuing environmental groups who have (thus far) only done property damage. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe it has something to do with our former asshat in chief?
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@JacquesPaysan: They are not ignored, they are monitored intensively. The FBI has to monitor within the law, you understand, unless you'd like another Ruby Ridge scenario?
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JacquesPaysan
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: Eh, really? Why, then, was the ELF listed as the most dangerous domestic terrorist group, when they've never actually harmed a person, unlike, say, the Klan, etc?

And also, how come the gubmint gets all high and mighty about staying within the law when it comes to investigating the lunatic right wing fringe?
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@JacquesPaysan: The Klan? Can we go for a ride in your new Coup de Ville, darling, 1963 really was a beautiful year.

OK, I'm editing. I am not trying to make fun of you, JP, you are one of my faves. But any group that can make bombs or stockpiles weaponry is watched. I don't know where you got that the ELF is the most dangerous. Jobs at the FBI are not politically appointed--well, not party-political appointed anyway, there's tons of politics in any bureaucracy, of course--and you'd be surprised at the political mix in there.
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JacquesPaysan
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: I'm surprised you didn't hear about this. The ELF thing was pretty big news back in 2006/ 2007, and (just as a means of illustrating) actually was deemed important enough to make a fairly long story-arc on SVU (I know, ick, but still).
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southernbitch
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: i just want to interject here saying that a woman was murdered by the klan here in louisiana within the past year, so insinuations that worrying about the klan is some sort of retro idea is, sadly, not true.
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@JacquesPaysan: Sure, have heard of them. The ELF and all terror-minded groups to the left (though they're so far left they're back around to right, IMO) are watched closely. But so are militia groups, hate groups, anti-tax rads, and the other right-wing groups large and small. They even still watch the FALN. Sorry to be so vague, JP, PM me if you want.
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@southernbitch: Yes, thank you, I am aware that the Klan still exists.
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southernbitch
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: it's not a matter of "knowing the klan still exists". you made a snarky comment about the klan being passe, not a snarky comment that they didn't exist anymore. i merely thought that pointing out a current murder investigation might be helpful to anyone else who is not as familiar with current FBI monitoring of domestic terrorist groups as you obviously are, since, as as a podunk southerner, i get to wake up to headlines about the KKK on a semi-regular basis. and thanks for your even snarkier thanks about my comment! southern manners compel me to acknowledge the gesture.
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JacquesPaysan
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: Too many acronyms, my dear.
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JacquesPaysan
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: BTW are you some kind of FBI narc undercover as a Gawker Commenter?
*Adjusts tinfoil hat*
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@southernbitch: 'bitch, I made a humorous comment that you interpreted as snarky. And then you decided to judge me for it. Southern manners indeed.
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@JacquesPaysan: Yes, and I've got my eye on you!
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southernbitch
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: eh, whatevs. the point still remains that the klan is not an outdated gang of murdering fuckheads in certain places in america.
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@southernbitch: No, I agree with you. And I like your cape.
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southernbitch
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: and your pink dress is quite fetching!
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Forgetitjake
08/04/09

@southernbitch:
Let's all have a beer.
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

In reply to FBI Agent Thinks the Green Party Is a Terrorist Group With Nukes
John, this is kind of weak. Do you not understand how the FBI works? You should have contacted a senior research analyst in the D.C. office if you wanted something substantial. But then you wouldn't be able to make fun of some junior agent in Georgia, would you?
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PoBoyNation
08/04/09

@BookishLookish: Thank you. The memo is descriptive at worst. It also doesn't identify the Green Party as a terrorist group.
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@PoBoyNation: How you been, dawlin'? Hot and steamy down bayou?
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Rhymenocerous
08/04/09

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You guys... Ralph Nader hasn't been associated with the Green Party since 2004. How bout a pic of Cynthia McKinney? Much more likely to be a terrorist.
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southernbitch
08/04/09

@HipHopopotamus: cynthia mckinney made me so embarrassed to be a "liberal" when i was studying political science at the university of georgia. i was horrified by her presidential nomination. such a bad idea for the greens.
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ForrestWhitakersLazyEye
08/03/09

In reply to FBI Agent Thinks the Green Party Is a Terrorist Group With Nukes
I'm gonna print this report out and roll a big fatty with it...and build a nuke.
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ChillbearLatrigue
08/03/09

In reply to FBI Agent Thinks the Green Party Is a Terrorist Group With Nukes
I'm a little more interested in the threat caused by the Army of the 12 Monkeys and Project Mayhem. Pretty much anything that I see in the movies.
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Niko Bellic
08/03/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: Yeah, but you have no power to investigate or arrest anyone.
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Iwillnotauditionforastar
08/03/09

In reply to FBI Agent Thinks the Green Party Is a Terrorist Group With Nukes
FOIA me and you'll get a couple hundred thousand pages.
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freedc
08/04/09

@Iwillnotauditionforastar: I'm definitely on federal and Georgia state watch lists so if John keeps FOIAing, I'm sure he'll come across me at some point.
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BookishLookish
08/04/09

@freedc: You're on that FOFA list, I heard: Freedom of Foin Azz, baby.
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Paul_Is_Drunk
08/03/09

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Kind of like how back in the day checking out a copy of Catcher in the Rye gave you a permanent FBI file.

Wonderful work these guys do.
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GregorMendel
08/04/09

@Paul_Is_Drunk: Being an activist for "social justice" is just so...jihadist.
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
08/03/09

In reply to FBI Agent Thinks the Green Party Is a Terrorist Group With Nukes
Hundreds of pages? Can you imagine how much paper various gumint organizations have stored all over this country? We should look into how much the landords are being paid to store the shit. Market rent? Hah! We've had computers and storage media since at least the 70's. Talk about environmental terrorism.
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dirtybee
04/16/09

In reply to This Is Not the Civil Libertarian Hero You're Looking For
The dogs aren't trained to bark when they "sense" drugs or illegal material. Anyone that's been asked to have a vehicle searched by Border Patrol or Customs know better than to deny a car search, especially if you know there is nothing to hide.
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miss_msry
04/16/09

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Did you say "No, thank you." to the search request with a note of sarcasm in your voice? Because, Texas Baptists are known troublemakers.
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Accidental Billionaire
04/16/09

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I got bored for a few moments on the first video.

Then I saw that second one.

It's called "contrasting".
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momof3wildkids
04/16/09

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What a jackass. What is the BFD if someone wants to check out your car, unless you have something to hide? Not saying it is constitutional, I'll leave that to others.

If it gets to the point that you've been tased, you probably are an asshole.
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Cicada
04/17/09

@momof3wildkids:

The fact is that he was asserting his legal right to not be searched without a warrant. It's in the Constitution, a little thing called the fourth amendment.

And yeah, I also think bashing a guys head until he needs 11 stitches just because he asserted his legal rights is a bit excessive. Even if he is an annoying Republican preacher.
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BadUncle
04/16/09

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"Anti-terrorism checkpoint?" The Border Patrol set up those checkpoints between San Diego and Phoenix years ago, because the area is a major crossing point for illegal aliens.
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nirreskeya
04/16/09

@BadUncle: And California has had its own checkpoints for years as well. Just getting us frogs used to the idea.
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onebadclam
04/16/09

@nirreskeya: Isn't everyone stopped by the fruit and vegetable Gestapo on the California border?
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nirreskeya
04/16/09

@onebadclam: It depends on how you define "stopped", but yes at least everyone has to be waved through. Does that make it any better?
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