Wow, instant superstar. I haven't been very vocal about gay marriage because I figure it's inevitable and will absolutely happen in the near future. For some strange reason, I feel like it's not my issue.
AIDS was my issue and it nearly killed me--not the virus itself thankfully, but literally fighting for access to new medicines, watching all the best people I knew die, and feeling so horribly guilty because I was spared. Not a day goes bye that I don't cry for the dead.
Gay marriage seems so light-weight in comparison. My rational mind, of course, knows that that isn't true--it's absolutely vital and Americans are eventually gonna realize it's an irresistible force coming their way, like Gavin said "whether you like it or not!"
I'm going to watch this clip again and then I'm gonna send this woman money for her re-election.
I really do hope y'all are contacting your senators. Especially if you live in astoria and LIC, because there's no way that area doesn't overwhelmingly support gay marriage.
@Urbania: Onorato is the one we should be gunning for, I think. He shouldn't survive a primary. The guy's been there since Astoria was really old school Greek, and I understand that, but his time is up.
I don't know what's worse – having gay marriage voted down by a large number of bigoted assholes, as it was here in CA, or by a small number of bigoted assholes, as happened today. It's hard to believe there still has to be an argument about whether or not people deserve equal protection under the law.
Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Frederick Douglass, Rochester, New York, July 5, 1852:
Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us?…
I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! … The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity and independence, bequeathed by your fathers, is shared by you, not by me… This Fourth of July is yours, not mine…
@bodegacat: Not to get all soap-boxy, but there have been too many times throughout history when actions that should be axiomatically permitted and rights that should intuitively exist are denied. If interracial marriage is still being challenged in some parts of this country (thank you The South), how fucked is the gay marriage cause.
When our government restricts the economic liberties of businesses it is the act of fascists, but when it prevents someone from doing what is essentially for humans the next step up from eating and breathing, then it is somehow preserving the American way of life? Up is down and down is up, and once again the world makes a little less sense.
@Six and a Quarter: I'm not sure I catch your drift, or that you caught mine. I thought it was pretty obvious from those quotes that I find this vote abhorrent and archaic, denying basic human rights, but everything I thought to write seemed trite in comparison. Hence turning to someone like Frederick Douglass.
@bodegacat: Sorry for the clumsy ineptitude in explaining myself. Comes from being really irate, really hungry and really tired at the same time. I was agreeing with you and adding my own endorsement- hence the soap box language. Hoped that was clear in my post, but apparently not.
@Six and a Quarter: hey, my clumsy ineptitude can beat yours any day of the week. I was tired and irate too, which no doubt contributed to my non-capisce-iness. Our agreement leads me to the one encouraging thing in all this, besides Diane Savino: to see the increasing outrage over these votes as their archaic & cruel nature becomes glaringly obvious to more people.
@Bindlestiffy: ya think? You have me confused with someone who needs that reminder. I was quoting someone I admire who knew something about the subject at hand. I wasn't trying to establish a hierarchical scale of suffering. I'll leave that to you.
@Bindlestiffy: No way, we wouldn't want to do that and interfere with his rights to privacy. you know like the privacy of loving whoever you want, right?
It's time for Bloomie to nut up and go all Gavin Newsome on this and clod just announce that NYC is going to allow gay marriage anyway. When they come to stop it, throw wave after wave of pro bono lawyers at 'em until they GO AWAY.
@crazy_prophylactics: Yes--"nut up or shut up" was the catchphrase uttered by the Woody Harrelson character in the flick "Zombieland." The movie probably did not coin the phrase, but it was the first time I had heard it. And I loves it.
@Atilla the Bun: Oh, totally. And if any big-city mayor has the sack-ability potential w/r/t gay marriage, it'd be Bloomberg. I mean, I don't live in New York or anything, so what the hell do I know, but the guy seems basically untouchable. Plus, I figure if my burg (Cleveland) can get a domestic partnership registry passed despite the opposition of the many local trogs, NYC's got to be able to get some gay marriage up in its business.
Three of those Democrat naysayers--Sens. Kruger, Monserrate, and Diaz were part of the four Amigos--the ones responsible for the NY Senate coup of overthrowing Malcolm Smith as the Senate Majority leader, which resulted in the Albany stalemate (with Monserrate and Espada defecting to the Republicans) . The other 'amigo' --Pedro Espada--probably only voted Yea, since he was elected, or promised, to be the State Senate Majority leadership when he put his allegiance back with the Democratic Party.
While I don't think Paterson has been an effective or particularly strong governor, I applaud his moves to get this to a vote. He has fought openly for equality even if he's persona non grata in some circles.
Overall, the spineless Democratic Party has once again championed our cause for the votes and then thrown the LGBT community under the bus. They should be ashamed... and I'm looking at you, too, Obama.
@AndIAmTellingYou: But this has been the track record of the Democratic Party.
They spend time with various groups, feigning their support. Then when the time comes, the screw them over. Here, the Democrats talked up gay marriage then screwed over the LGBT community [and virtually every other citizens 'cause we all find it offensive that gay citizens don't enjoy equal rights as the rest of society] by not getting the votes. -- sorry for the run-on sentence, I'm pissed.
Look at the Democratic Party track record in the cities of Newark, Detroit, Camden, New Orleans, etc. They get 90% of the vote; yet poverty and crime is increasing. The DP uses people.
BTW, the Republican Party does the same thing -- at least they are upfront and open about it.
@AndIAmTellingYou: the fact that he is persona non grata might have been the reason he put it to a vote. Politicians usually find it easier to vote their conscience when they have nothing left to lose.
@AndIAmTellingYou: The worst part of it is, if you use the hate-proselytizing, queer-hating, Leviticus-quoting, Bible-humping Republicans as a comparison, the Democrats look like the Matthew Shepard/Harvey Milk Memorial Gay Chorus.
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AIDS was my issue and it nearly killed me--not the virus itself thankfully, but literally fighting for access to new medicines, watching all the best people I knew die, and feeling so horribly guilty because I was spared. Not a day goes bye that I don't cry for the dead.
Gay marriage seems so light-weight in comparison. My rational mind, of course, knows that that isn't true--it's absolutely vital and Americans are eventually gonna realize it's an irresistible force coming their way, like Gavin said "whether you like it or not!"
I'm going to watch this clip again and then I'm gonna send this woman money for her re-election.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Frederick Douglass, Rochester, New York, July 5, 1852:
Fellow citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us?…
I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! … The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity and independence, bequeathed by your fathers, is shared by you, not by me… This Fourth of July is yours, not mine…
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When our government restricts the economic liberties of businesses it is the act of fascists, but when it prevents someone from doing what is essentially for humans the next step up from eating and breathing, then it is somehow preserving the American way of life? Up is down and down is up, and once again the world makes a little less sense.
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Today is not that day.
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Overall, the spineless Democratic Party has once again championed our cause for the votes and then thrown the LGBT community under the bus. They should be ashamed... and I'm looking at you, too, Obama.
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They spend time with various groups, feigning their support. Then when the time comes, the screw them over. Here, the Democrats talked up gay marriage then screwed over the LGBT community [and virtually every other citizens 'cause we all find it offensive that gay citizens don't enjoy equal rights as the rest of society] by not getting the votes. -- sorry for the run-on sentence, I'm pissed.
Look at the Democratic Party track record in the cities of Newark, Detroit, Camden, New Orleans, etc. They get 90% of the vote; yet poverty and crime is increasing. The DP uses people.
BTW, the Republican Party does the same thing -- at least they are upfront and open about it.
Time for Independent politicians with backbones!
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Will there ever be a viable third party?
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I'm from fucking Florida and yet Albany manages to constantly redefine my concept of dysfunctional.