When Castro actually does kick the bucket, heavens knows when, how is the news most likely to emerge?
People listened to Perez Hilton in part because it seemed plausible that the Cuban regime might try and keep the news hushed up and word would have to leak out through back-channels. On the other hand, the regime has had plenty of time to plan, so maybe Castro's successor(s) would try to put out a statement quickly as a show of strength. #annlouisebardach
@Ryan Tate:
You have a point.
And actually so did PerezHilton - to some degree- in his Sept. 22, 2007 post when he said "We're not going to believe he's still alive until he takes a nice stroll through Havana. Live. Not in some pre-taped video. And only if he's accompanied by an independent news organization, like the Associated Press."
Without reliable information from the Cuban government, independent confirmation from trusted sources is needed regarding all Castro health and personal matters.
In fact, we have had no live, public sightings of Castro since July 26, 2006 though we know he's alive and seemingly okay because of private meetings he's had with friends and foreign leaders... most notably Oliver Stone in late August and Harry Belafonte a few weeks ago, among others.
And of course, Castro himself appeared on taped Cuban TV the very night of the PerezHilton rumor saga. #annlouisebardach
There was a time when I would have questioned any "news" organization that would source Perez. But let's look at a few things. The Enquirer got the John Edwards story right before anyone else. And TMZ does have some sort of relationship with the LAPD, as they got Jackson's death before anyone. TMZ also got the details on Mel Gibson's drunk driving rant before anyone else. Though I, of course, hold Gawker to the highest level of journalistic standards, Gawker has also broken some stories - recently with some damning information on Balloon Boy (yes, they paid for it, but still). And let's not forget that Drudge was a nobody before he broke some of the Monica stories (I think that was his claim to fame). There is a legitimate place for all of these "new" media types for original reporting and overall I think it is a good thing. You just have to look at their track record (Perez's isn't that great) and remember that track record when forming your conclusions. However, I do think there is news to be found in non-traditional sources - just remember "buyer be warned." Don't really have a question, just more of a comment. #annlouisebardach
Let's get down to the real nitty gritty... were cuban cigars ever really rolled on the thighs of young cuban ladies during their manufacture? #annlouisebardach
Okay, so Perez showed everyone how to pretend how to be a Cuban reporter. But given how closely the Castro regime guards information, how do you go about sifting through the rumors? I'm sure you've heard your share by now. What are the red flags that make your ears perk up? #annlouisebardach
@Gabriel Snyder:
The one thing we know for sure is that we will not get confirmation of Castro's death until he is well in the ground or, as is likely to be the case, his ashes are sprayed over Pico Turquino, his favorite haunt in the Sierra Maestra.
So all reporters covering Cuba know to expect precious little information from the Cuban government.
That said, the national pasttime of Cuba is gossip - from the highest echelons in the government to jineteras - or hustlers - on the Malecon. This informal information network is known as Radio Bemba and has sometimes been quite reliable.
The key is having good sources in the right places at the right time. In tracking Fidel's health, I've had some nice assists from staffers in in the hospital where his surgery took place and from some employees in the Ministry of Health and also from the odd indiscretion of family members confiding to friends.
But discussing Fidel's health publicly is a very tricky business -and those who do, do so at some risk and peril. #annlouisebardach
@Foster Kamer:
Not really- the old guard known as el exilio historico is more likely tuned into Spanish language radio like Radio Mambi,- which often traffics in their own Fidel is Dead rumors. Teens are more likely to be reading him and perhaps some web hounds in Miami. #annlouisebardach
Great excerpt. As someone who has had the displeasure of dealing with Perez Hilton on both a "professional" (read: blogosphere) and personal level, I always find others' assessments of him to be fascinating.
My question: Did you attempt to interview Perez for your book and/or get a statement from him related to his false reporting? If so, what was the result?
From what I've seen/heard, he stood by the story for another month or so -- judging by this post on September 22, 2007 -- and then never mentioned it again until February 19, 2008 with this post about Castro's resignation. Even in the second post, he didn't offer anything beyond "He may still be alive, but he's definitely no longer dictator of Cuba!" as an indication that his previous reports were inaccurate.
As you mentioned in the excerpt, this wasn't just another trivial story about a Hollywood fame whore, and his false reporting had actual implications. Have you challenged him on any of this? Have you, -- or has anyone -- tried to force him to admit that he was just plain wrong?
Again, thanks for participating! I look forward to reading more from your book.
For the purpose of this book- which deals with the nexis of Cuban/Miami/Washington politics, I simply tracked and quoted from his blog. It seemed to say it all. Then I followed the trail through the mainstream media as they followed his scent. #annlouisebardach
@Gabriel Snyder:
I would guess in the thousands in overtime etc. as the Miami Dade PD probably ramped up patrols for a few days in and around Calle Ocho. #annlouisebardach
Hi there Annie, thanks for dropping by and thanks for letting us run this excerpt. First question I have is: how was it that, of all people, Perez Hilton was able to spark the biggest false Castro Is Dead rumor? Does he have credibility in the Cuban community that we didn't know about? #annlouisebardach
Actually, he was not well known in the South Florida exile community
as someone with political stature. Rather he was known as a gossip columnist, same as elsewhere.
What aided him was/is the news blackout in Cuba about Fidel's health status etc... so a hungry mainstream media jumped on it.
@abardach: So it was really just a matter of them "wanting to believe"? Was this particular fiasco bigger than the previous times the rumor went around? #annlouisebardach
@Gabriel Snyder:
yes, i would say it was among the biggest "Fidel is Dead" rumor cycles in history because of the web. Indeed, it rivaled the one in 1956 when a credulous UPI reporter went with a press handout from Batista's government declaring that Castro had been killed - which was also picked up by many in the mainstream media. #annlouisebardach
@abardach: Another question just on Perez: do you know if he ever admitted that he was wrong? Or does he think Castro is actually, secretly dead? #annlouisebardach
@Ann Louise Bardach: So, given the nature of the Cuban media blackout, how do you think the rollout of the news of Castro's death would happen, were the event to occur in the near future? Would the internet play a part in that? #annlouisebardach
@Gabriel Snyder:
It may have been in terms of some costs to Miami. Whenever it is believed that Fidel's passing is imminent, the Miami police department ramps up patrols of certain neighborhoods and moves forward with contingency plans - in case the revelry gets too spirited. #annlouisebardach
@Gabriel Snyder: Don't mean to threadjack and not sure if this is the same answer Ann will give, but here's what I know: Perez still publicly questioned whether or not Castro was alive as late as September 22, 2007, with [perezhilton.com] As far as I know, he didn't mention him on the site again until February 19, 2008, with [perezhilton.com] announcing Castro's resignation (which included the line "He may still be alive" (italics mine). I think he's pretty much avoided mentioning him since then, except for a couple of stories back in September about how Aubrey O'Day called Castro "brilliant".
@Gabriel Snyder:
I do not think he conceded he was wrong...but cannot say for sure as I did not I track him much beyond this incident.
Probably part of it was his wishful thinking - shared by quite a few Cuban-Americans - and the other was wanting the big scoop. Not such a good combination for a reporter. #annlouisebardach
As Castro told me in 1994 when i interviewed him for Vanity Fair, no detail regarding his inevitable passing has been overlooked ...They have honed their sucession plan repeatedly for more than a decade. We need only to recall how seamless the transition was to Raul Castro once Fidel fell ill. There is a good deal on this issue in the book in Part One: The Long Dying. #annlouisebardach
Laughing? I'm cringing over here. So much so that it's difficult to browse Gawker because that asshole's face is lingering in the top bar. The aura coming off of him is so fucking disgusting. Please make it stop!
When the whole reason for your fame is what you write in a blog, you'd think one would want to keep the presence of ghost writers a secret. And pay attention to what words others are putting into your mouth. Like the whole Shakespeare debate.
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People listened to Perez Hilton in part because it seemed plausible that the Cuban regime might try and keep the news hushed up and word would have to leak out through back-channels. On the other hand, the regime has had plenty of time to plan, so maybe Castro's successor(s) would try to put out a statement quickly as a show of strength. #annlouisebardach
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You have a point.
And actually so did PerezHilton - to some degree- in his Sept. 22, 2007 post when he said "We're not going to believe he's still alive until he takes a nice stroll through Havana. Live. Not in some pre-taped video. And only if he's accompanied by an independent news organization, like the Associated Press."
Without reliable information from the Cuban government, independent confirmation from trusted sources is needed regarding all Castro health and personal matters.
In fact, we have had no live, public sightings of Castro since July 26, 2006 though we know he's alive and seemingly okay because of private meetings he's had with friends and foreign leaders... most notably Oliver Stone in late August and Harry Belafonte a few weeks ago, among others.
And of course, Castro himself appeared on taped Cuban TV the very night of the PerezHilton rumor saga. #annlouisebardach
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The one thing we know for sure is that we will not get confirmation of Castro's death until he is well in the ground or, as is likely to be the case, his ashes are sprayed over Pico Turquino, his favorite haunt in the Sierra Maestra.
So all reporters covering Cuba know to expect precious little information from the Cuban government.
That said, the national pasttime of Cuba is gossip - from the highest echelons in the government to jineteras - or hustlers - on the Malecon. This informal information network is known as Radio Bemba and has sometimes been quite reliable.
The key is having good sources in the right places at the right time. In tracking Fidel's health, I've had some nice assists from staffers in in the hospital where his surgery took place and from some employees in the Ministry of Health and also from the odd indiscretion of family members confiding to friends.
But discussing Fidel's health publicly is a very tricky business -and those who do, do so at some risk and peril. #annlouisebardach
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Not really- the old guard known as el exilio historico is more likely tuned into Spanish language radio like Radio Mambi,- which often traffics in their own Fidel is Dead rumors. Teens are more likely to be reading him and perhaps some web hounds in Miami. #annlouisebardach
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Great excerpt. As someone who has had the displeasure of dealing with Perez Hilton on both a "professional" (read: blogosphere) and personal level, I always find others' assessments of him to be fascinating.
My question: Did you attempt to interview Perez for your book and/or get a statement from him related to his false reporting? If so, what was the result?
From what I've seen/heard, he stood by the story for another month or so -- judging by this post on September 22, 2007 -- and then never mentioned it again until February 19, 2008 with this post about Castro's resignation. Even in the second post, he didn't offer anything beyond "He may still be alive, but he's definitely no longer dictator of Cuba!" as an indication that his previous reports were inaccurate.
As you mentioned in the excerpt, this wasn't just another trivial story about a Hollywood fame whore, and his false reporting had actual implications. Have you challenged him on any of this? Have you, -- or has anyone -- tried to force him to admit that he was just plain wrong?
Again, thanks for participating! I look forward to reading more from your book.
Matt #annlouisebardach
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For the purpose of this book- which deals with the nexis of Cuban/Miami/Washington politics, I simply tracked and quoted from his blog. It seemed to say it all. Then I followed the trail through the mainstream media as they followed his scent. #annlouisebardach
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I would guess in the thousands in overtime etc. as the Miami Dade PD probably ramped up patrols for a few days in and around Calle Ocho. #annlouisebardach
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[www.guardian.co.uk] #annlouisebardach
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Actually, he was not well known in the South Florida exile community
as someone with political stature. Rather he was known as a gossip columnist, same as elsewhere.
What aided him was/is the news blackout in Cuba about Fidel's health status etc... so a hungry mainstream media jumped on it.
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yes, i would say it was among the biggest "Fidel is Dead" rumor cycles in history because of the web. Indeed, it rivaled the one in 1956 when a credulous UPI reporter went with a press handout from Batista's government declaring that Castro had been killed - which was also picked up by many in the mainstream media. #annlouisebardach
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It may have been in terms of some costs to Miami. Whenever it is believed that Fidel's passing is imminent, the Miami police department ramps up patrols of certain neighborhoods and moves forward with contingency plans - in case the revelry gets too spirited. #annlouisebardach
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I do not think he conceded he was wrong...but cannot say for sure as I did not I track him much beyond this incident.
Probably part of it was his wishful thinking - shared by quite a few Cuban-Americans - and the other was wanting the big scoop. Not such a good combination for a reporter. #annlouisebardach
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As Castro told me in 1994 when i interviewed him for Vanity Fair, no detail regarding his inevitable passing has been overlooked ...They have honed their sucession plan repeatedly for more than a decade. We need only to recall how seamless the transition was to Raul Castro once Fidel fell ill. There is a good deal on this issue in the book in Part One: The Long Dying. #annlouisebardach
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Laughing? I'm cringing over here. So much so that it's difficult to browse Gawker because that asshole's face is lingering in the top bar. The aura coming off of him is so fucking disgusting. Please make it stop!
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