Speaking of NoCal vibe, good call, and do you think Sully smokes pot (or muggles down, as we used to say)?

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Can't be sure gladys. I recall the name, but the face is hazy. And you have to admit that many things seem oddly familiar to you. I'll go back through your posts and see if I can connect.

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My clue to you was asking whether you ever spent Easter in the W hotel, the one on Lex not in Times Square?

Maybe that's too specific for you to answer...

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Very happy to meet you though!

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Now tell us, does Tarzan ever have plumbing issues?

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*I* can't believe Ms. Madds puts bitters in her martinis. Maybe with the high proportion (by contemporary standards) of vermouth, they need it.

But I agree with you, she's pretty lovable no matter what. P.S. Miss you and your posts!

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In my house, a martini is gin on the rocks, with an olive when available.

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Rolf's German-American restaurant in Gramercy made the best Manhattans I've ever had in this life. After 3, the surreal seasonal decor was a revelation, OTT.

So fun, but it's been ages. It's hard to find someone who can make a perfect Manhattan, lately. Old barmen are the best.

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The upstairs barman at Sardi's makes a lovely Manhattan. You used to be able to run into Charles Nelson Reilly there, too. Sadly, that is no longer a possibility.

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And WHAT is with the extra symbols everybody has lately? You have a red star aside from the yellow star and Bookish has a red star and some kind of cog wheel thingy! What do they mean? I want them! I want my flair!

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later. onna bouncy bus now

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But it certainly made "DirecTV Concert Series Presents Ting Tings!" a lot more fun.

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that is by far, the most overrated, over hyped NONSENSE in contemporary cocktail culture.

its simply not true.

cocktails SHOULD 9/10 be shaken quite thoroughly. if your hands are sticking to the shaker, youre almost there.

however, there is nothing wrong with stirring a nice manhattan or martini, whatever.

the only thing this prevents is the froth, a VERY cold drink, and the inevitable breaking down of ice and (slight) watering down of the spirit.

but this is called for in most cocktails anyways.

how many times, says the original recipe, are you suppose to stir a martini.

rinsing the glass? absoloutely. most people do dont THAT properly either.

@PoBoyNation: and you. contemporary standards of vermouth? not at all. nyc and other big cities martinis could NOT be more dry. the original recipes called for very specific amounts of vermouth, more than most people today care for.

a properly made martini, with the proper amount of vermouth is quite delicious.

why dont people today just ask for chilled vodka or gin UP with some olives? thats not a martini.

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But that's probably just an old wives' tale.

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The problem might be that Angostura has all but cornered the market. Hold out for Peychaud's bitters. Better yet, order in bulk online and leave a bottle with each of your favorite bartenders.

Bookish, your Rachel Maddow sounds yummy!

Finally, regarding grandmothers as mentioned in this thread, mine had a clock in her kitchen with all 5s.

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quick, without looking: what's the difference between a seabreeze, a baybreeze, and a madras?

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she's still hot. and i'm a gay man. my grandma drank rum and cokes exclusively. every day, at 5. i would make the hors doeurves as gay young men did.

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