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Has The Iranian "Revolution" Already Been Crushed?

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♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
06/28/09

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for someone so oppressive and terrible, ahmadinejad has an ironically comical face and sartorial vocabulary.
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lobstr
06/28/09

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The next "election" will be verrrry interesting..
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
06/28/09

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the regime is determined to use force against its own people. that makes it all much harder.

in the end, the state and the military and the security forces in the soviet union and east germany pretty much gave up without a fight, and things moved along peacefully

iran, not so much

the soviet union turned into a kleptocracy; the people are free but the social contract is destroyed -- it's an economic war of all against all
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badasscat
06/27/09

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The bottom line is this is now an illegitimate regime and everybody knows it. No regime can govern without the support of its people, at least not effectively. It is only a matter of time until the entire house of cards collapses. They just haven't realized it yet.

What the US needs to do is keep the pressure on, and not do anything to legitimize this government. Anything that would allow the Iranian public to begin to support this government is both bad for us and bad for them in the long run. We don't need to be doing anything that has the side effect of prolonging an illegitimate regime's reign.
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
06/28/09

@badasscat:

"What the US needs to do is keep the pressure on, and not do anything to legitimize this government. "

The U.S.? As in us? The folks that are legitimizing our own government? Wait for it... wait for it...

oh that's rich
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RedLineRage
06/28/09

@Uncle_Billy_Slumming: Because the result of our election was predetermined and there were massive voting irregularities? I'm not seeing your point, unless you're referring to the "birth certificate" issue, to which I say: Put your tinfoil hat back on.
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DoctorNine
06/28/09

@RedLineRage: The truth, is that the birth certificate IS MADE OF TIN FOIL. And where is the media? Not a word. Not a peep.
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DoctorNine
06/27/09

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The thing that depresses me the most, is how the Revolutionary Guard seem to have no clue how they have simply become the new SAVAK. The original revolution had merit, and many, even in the West, felt that they were justified in their reaction to the CIA's heavy hand. They cannot believe that repression is a viable strategy. Even Stalin couldn't do it, pograms or no. The RG should embrace moderation. It would save them and their long-suffering supporters much torture, and many lives lost.

They cannot create strength with terror. It simply doesn't work that way.
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Weegee's bored
06/27/09

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Depending on when you start and end the count, it took between four and seven years to end American involvement in Vietnam.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
06/28/09

@Weegee's bored: nice 2 c u
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geerays
06/27/09

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well, it took a year of protests to sink the shah. this regime's countdown clock has begun ticking; it is all only a matter of time.
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gawkimo
06/28/09

@geerays: It only took the CIA ten months to oust Mohammed Mossadegh, the very popular prime minister who was too "Commie" for the UK, which asked the US to orchestrate the coup that brought in the shah.
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Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux
06/27/09

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In drunken delusional moments for a nanosecond it crosses my mind that I could be as brave as those protesters.

But, then I realize I'm probably fooling myself.

Does the fact that I have been wearing green earrings to work all week count?

Yeah, right.
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