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Tattertotter
10/01/09

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Let's all get up and dance to a tune that was a hit before your mother was born . . . this all happened years before I was born and tho I know there's no statute of limitations on rape, (a dubiously conceived notion IMHO) I simply can't get worked up about punishing Polanski anymore. Even his "victim" says the courts have caused more damage to her life than he ever did. Rape is bad, no argument there. Any self-righteous, judgmental call for further punishment is worse.
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lacieca01
10/01/09

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If you are even pretending to be a journalist, you should learn what "pedophile" means. An adolescent who looks, dresses and acts years older than her chronological age is not attractive to a pedophile; a child (i.e., pre-pubescent) is.

This is a complicated and sordid enough matter without an ignorant blogger's pageview hunger making it worse by spreading misinformation.
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alboy2
10/01/09

@lacieca01: And Polanski does not meet YOUR definition of the word because?? Please stop picking on Andrew's writing until you can learn to do it properly yourself. There is NOTHING complicated about this case; he drugged and raped a 13-year old girl and then fled the country rather than face justice. What is so friggin' complicated about that??? Please, let's stop trying this case in the blogs, and on HBO, and return it to a courtroom where it belongs!
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Helennellieforsythe
10/01/09

@alboy2: uhhh....but he's not a pedophile? Child molester, sure, pedophile, no, because he would be attracted solely to pre-pubescent children... which he is not. It's not lacieca01's definition, it's the dictionary's.
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lacieca01
10/01/09

@Helennellieforsythe: DSM IV, actually, but thanks for being a voice of reason.
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applesanity
10/01/09

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WTF... he drugged a 13-year old girl, and then he had sex with her while she was resisting and saying no the whole time. 13 was not the consensual age at the time in CA. But that doesn't matter - she could 13 or 31 years old. Rape is rape.
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skt.smth
10/01/09

@applesanity: To be fair, I don't believe that version of the story is what Polanski pled to in court, or what he was convicted of. Of course, that doesn't excuse the fact that he, at the very least, had sex with a 13 year old girl.
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staring problem
10/01/09

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Um, "having sex with a drunk pre-teen girl" ??? He admitted to raping her. Let's get our words straight. Ok.
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Macloserboy
10/01/09

@staring problem: Seriously. This poor choice of words caused the mother of all shitstorms on Jezebel some months back.
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skt.smth
10/01/09

@staring problem: Well, to "statutorily" raping her anyway. There is a distinction, albeit one that doesn't make Polanski's actions any more excusable.
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sean98125
10/01/09

@skt.smth: Drugging someone and having sex with them while they are saying no is rape regardless of how old the victim is.
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lacieca01
10/01/09

@Macloserboy: Tuesday causes the mother of all shitstorms on Jezebel.
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skt.smth
10/01/09

@sean98125: Polanski pled guilty to only one of six charges filed against him, that of "engaging in unlawful intercourse with a minor." I can understand the desire to paint him as all of these other horrible things, as well, and while these things may be true, he was never convicted of them. And I think that none of us are really close enough to the story to make a clear judgment about the truth behind them. He had sex with a 13 year old girl. That's already bad enough. No need to pile on a bunch of other stuff you can't substantiate.
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drunkexpatwriter
10/01/09

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Pre teen?

She was 13.
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Swordfish
10/01/09

@drunkexpatwriter: I was thinking the same thing. Aren't you officially "a teen" when the suffix "teen" is attached to your age???
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macman7
10/01/09

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Oh poor guy! Now he can't finish his movie! What a tragedy... I can't imagine anything worse than that...wait no I can!
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skt.smth
10/01/09

@macman7: Wait, was Polanski whining about not being able to finish his movie? Where?
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TheInternetGod
10/01/09

@skt.smth: Wait, did the comment say Polanski was whining about not being able to finish his movie? Where?
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skt.smth
10/01/09

@TheInternetGod: Usually when somebody does the sarcastic "Oh poor guy" routine, the implication is that the "poor guy" in question has complained about something in the first place.
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TheInternetGod
10/01/09

@skt.smth: Usually when someone gets a 13 year old drunk and drugged up and then anally rapes them they go to jail.
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Swordfish
10/01/09

@TheInternetGod: Okay guys, now, break it up.
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