This is the soft paternalism way of doing things of the GOP - "But he said he was going to take care of it!" - the same thinking behind deregulated markets.
@abettertomorrow: Yeah except like that fuckstick Penn, Krugman actually defended himself (quite successfully) many times about his connection. [www.pkarchive.org]
@Max Power: Yeah, Krugman says - I was a columnist, not a a journalist, when I wrote for national publications while getting an Enron paycheck - and - I didn't disclose that I was paid, but people should have assumed-. I fail to see how this is in any way different from Mark Penn. At least Mark Penn isn't promoting companies he does PR for in his column. Here are the actual quotes from Krugman's response link:
"I did write monthly columns for two magazines in 1999, but I would not have described myself as a journalist - no more so than, say, Laura Tyson, Robert Barro, or or Gary Becker, respected economists who write monthly columns for Business Week. I wrote a monthly column for Fortune; that column was neither a major commitment of time nor a major source of income. I also wrote a monthly column, for very little money, for Slate. My main sources of income were teaching, consulting, and business speaking.
5. Did I disclose my connection? Yes. I reported it the one time I mentioned Enron in Fortune, almost three years ago. I reported it again the first time I mentioned Enron in the New York Times, in a highly critical article more than a year ago. I didn't say that I was paid to serve on the board, but I thought that was obvious: who volunteers his services to for-profit corporations? "
It's certainly ok to be wrong, and it makes it much more difficult to explain when you're taking $37,500 from the company you're so very, very wrong about.
"Actually, we are giving him a raise because we admire that kind of entrepreneurial spirit here at WSJ. Perhaps we should ask for a finder's fee from future columns.
This ludicrous WSJ quote also applies to the newspaper's view of the big investment banks' looting of the U.S. Treasury: ""Clearly what was done is not something that we liked. But we're pretty sure that it's going to stop."
@Gabriel Snyder: It's around lunchtime right now, so you'll probably get a few phone calls to your tipline from some of them, now untethered from their Dow Jones phones, OR perhaps anonymous emails from an Internet cafe nearby, with journalistic gripes. At least we hope so.
@tailpipebananna: Sad but true. I for one, though, will take a stand and cancel my subscription. By which I mean I'll stop leafing through my neighbor's copy while waiting for the elevator. As long as someone's Times or Post is nearby.
@tailpipebananna: I don't care. I wouldn't have expected anything less from Penn or most other op-ed/columnists with other gigs. This kind of behavior around news articles would be an issue, and also occurs, no doubt. Let's police that.
I thought it might be helpful to set the record straight:
It’s very easy to demonize food companies and anyone who consults with them, but I have been able to accomplish a lot of good in public health by working with these companies.
For example, as chair of PepsiCo’s scientific advisory committee, one of the first things we advised PepsiCo to do eight years ago was to take the trans fats out of their foods at Frito-Lay, which they did at great expense. Several years ago, we were able to help facilitate a meeting with Steve Reinemund (then CEO of PepsiCo), President Clinton, and the American Heart Association which ultimately led to the decision for soft drink makers to voluntarily take out sweetened beverages from most school vending machines and to put healthier snacks there. We also advised them on developing healthier products, not marketing unhealthful foods to kids, improving food labeling, working to get physical education back in schools, and so on.
Also, I was responsible for getting McDonald’s to take the trans fatty acids out of their French fries. I also played a major role in getting McDonald’s to make salads available on their menu and to stop advertising high-sugar and high-fat foods to kids. (I have not consulted with McDonald’s for the past two years.)
Is this the solution to the obesity epidemic? Of course not--but even incremental changes on that scale (42 million customers/day) is worth doing.
I don’t represent these food corporations; I consult with them to make and market healthier foods, and I’m proud of this work.
At Safeway, I consulted with Steve Burd to incentivize wellness and to make it easier for employees to stay healthy—e.g., free mammograms, colonoscopies, healthier food in the cafeterias, easier access to exercise facilities, and so on. Yes, if you smoke then you pay higher premiums, but I think that’s the way it should be: freedom of choice and also personal responsibility for the consequences of those choices. Their approach is very different than most corporations, which often use the managed care approach to limit access to health care while raising premiums for everyone to cover the increasing costs. Safeway has a better approach, and I’m glad that the government is looking at their example of incentivizing wellness rather than illness.
For more information about my work, please go to [www.huffingtonpost.com]
Dean Ornish, M.D.
Ya know what? If Dr. Dean takes money from BigCorp to finance his work urging people with heart problems to do yoga, eat better, meditate and exercise, he's a-okay with me. I think this fella has the balls to urge holistic approaches even though it will surely cost him big pharma money.
@Nice Beaver: Did you read the part about where he's promoting a health plan that passes the costs of insuring people with chronic conditions on to them? Do you recognize that we're talking about people who may have hereditary or other conditions over which they have no control? The "incentivize" bullshit is distraction to cover up the slick legerdemain of abdicating responsibility for caring for sick people, who've paid their premiums like everyone else, but will now be penalized for the crime of actually needing the care they paid for.
Increasingly there's a movement to blame all illness on lifestyle choices, and make pariahs out of sick people. My father drank and smoked heavily all his adult life, and outlived my mother, who quit doing both and died of leukimia. Health is not necessarily a reward of right living, and sickness is not necessarily a punishment for bad behavior.
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What about the columnist who writes about topics that he thinks will earn him big speaking fees down the line?
What about the columnist who writes about the same topic that her recently published book addresses?
What about the reporter who writes about the topic that he knows his publisher has a personal deep interest in?
Penn is what he his, so this is no defense - your complaint, however seems pretty, pretty vague...
How, exactly, are "journalist" ethics any different than "concrete wholesaler" ethics?
08/27/09
08/27/09
"I did write monthly columns for two magazines in 1999, but I would not have described myself as a journalist - no more so than, say, Laura Tyson, Robert Barro, or or Gary Becker, respected economists who write monthly columns for Business Week. I wrote a monthly column for Fortune; that column was neither a major commitment of time nor a major source of income. I also wrote a monthly column, for very little money, for Slate. My main sources of income were teaching, consulting, and business speaking.
5. Did I disclose my connection? Yes. I reported it the one time I mentioned Enron in Fortune, almost three years ago. I reported it again the first time I mentioned Enron in the New York Times, in a highly critical article more than a year ago. I didn't say that I was paid to serve on the board, but I thought that was obvious: who volunteers his services to for-profit corporations? "
08/27/09
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It's certainly ok to be wrong, and it makes it much more difficult to explain when you're taking $37,500 from the company you're so very, very wrong about.
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Best quote? "Clearly what was done is not something that we liked. But we're pretty sure that it's going to stop."
We'll as long as they're pretty sure about it, I'm satisfied.
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It’s very easy to demonize food companies and anyone who consults with them, but I have been able to accomplish a lot of good in public health by working with these companies.
For example, as chair of PepsiCo’s scientific advisory committee, one of the first things we advised PepsiCo to do eight years ago was to take the trans fats out of their foods at Frito-Lay, which they did at great expense. Several years ago, we were able to help facilitate a meeting with Steve Reinemund (then CEO of PepsiCo), President Clinton, and the American Heart Association which ultimately led to the decision for soft drink makers to voluntarily take out sweetened beverages from most school vending machines and to put healthier snacks there. We also advised them on developing healthier products, not marketing unhealthful foods to kids, improving food labeling, working to get physical education back in schools, and so on.
Also, I was responsible for getting McDonald’s to take the trans fatty acids out of their French fries. I also played a major role in getting McDonald’s to make salads available on their menu and to stop advertising high-sugar and high-fat foods to kids. (I have not consulted with McDonald’s for the past two years.)
Is this the solution to the obesity epidemic? Of course not--but even incremental changes on that scale (42 million customers/day) is worth doing.
I don’t represent these food corporations; I consult with them to make and market healthier foods, and I’m proud of this work.
At Safeway, I consulted with Steve Burd to incentivize wellness and to make it easier for employees to stay healthy—e.g., free mammograms, colonoscopies, healthier food in the cafeterias, easier access to exercise facilities, and so on. Yes, if you smoke then you pay higher premiums, but I think that’s the way it should be: freedom of choice and also personal responsibility for the consequences of those choices. Their approach is very different than most corporations, which often use the managed care approach to limit access to health care while raising premiums for everyone to cover the increasing costs. Safeway has a better approach, and I’m glad that the government is looking at their example of incentivizing wellness rather than illness.
For more information about my work, please go to [www.huffingtonpost.com]
Dean Ornish, M.D.
08/10/09
08/10/09
08/10/09
08/10/09
08/10/09
Increasingly there's a movement to blame all illness on lifestyle choices, and make pariahs out of sick people. My father drank and smoked heavily all his adult life, and outlived my mother, who quit doing both and died of leukimia. Health is not necessarily a reward of right living, and sickness is not necessarily a punishment for bad behavior.