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    Image of sanyucat sanyucat
    11/17/09

    In reply to Documentary to Expose Twittering, Typing, Lunch Habits of NYT Media Reporters
    This could only be more interesting than your average work day if you are already dead.
    [Edited for boredom]
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    10/26/09

    In reply to Everything's Too Big to Fail, Including Our Two-Step Path to USA Richness Again™
    According to the following linked op-ed, whatever the problem is, it isn't compensation.

    [www.washingtonpost.com]

    Who wants a piece of that? #trendwatch
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/26/09

    In reply to Everything's Too Big to Fail, Including Our Two-Step Path to USA Richness Again™
    Thank you for paying tribute to the great Butterbean. #trendwatch
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    10/26/09

    In reply to Everything's Too Big to Fail, Including Our Two-Step Path to USA Richness Again™
    "Instead of willy-nilly changing up the whole system just because it collapsed, we have to work with what we've got."

    We've got to work with what we've got? I've got a hole in Latvia, 3 meters deep to sell you.

    Agree on the two steps though... tear it all down, and then build it fresh. The entire fucking planet is a virus infected hard drive that needs to be reformatted and installed fresh with either Mac OS or some tree-hugging version of Unix. #trendwatch
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    Image of goetz goetz
    10/26/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: Don't you have to start a Fight Club first? #trendwatch
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    10/26/09

    @goetz:

    No shortage of those. #trendwatch
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    Image of goetz goetz
    10/26/09

    In reply to Everything's Too Big to Fail, Including Our Two-Step Path to USA Richness Again™
    And here I thought the two steps were "grab bootstraps" and "pull." #trendwatch
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    Image of fuckingoldman fuckingoldman
    10/26/09

    @goetz: And I thought they were "wipe" then "flush". #trendwatch
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    Image of themediatrix themediatrix
    10/26/09

    @goetz: what if you can't afford boots? #trendwatch
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    10/26/09

    @themediatrix: Coattails. #trendwatch
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    10/26/09

    @fuckingoldman: That's a pretty useful measure for dealing with all two-step plans. #trendwatch
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    10/26/09

    @themediatrix:

    They'll have them for you when you show up for the WPA orientation. #trendwatch
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    Image of MadamePsychosis MadamePsychosis
    10/21/09

    In reply to Can an Online Fan Base Save the New York Times? No.
    This math doesn't make sense to me. Here's how I read it:

    First 1/4: Interested enough about the paper to read a story about its inner workings.
    Second 1/4: Of those, interested enough in the issue to comment on it.
    1/3: Of those, number of those commenters who are willing to pay.

    It seems to me the number you solved for should simply tell me the exact number of people who commented on this story to support payment, assuming these proportions are correct (obviously the are not but that's beside the point). This does nothing to estimate more broadly how many of the 15 million would be willing to pay. In fact, just because 1/3 stated outright that they would be willing to pay does not necessarily mean that the other 2/3 are UNwilling to pay. Also, I don't think that not reading a story on the inner workings of the paper OR not commenting on it disqualifies a person as a possible future payer.

    To me, it seems reasonable to guess that at least 10% of those 15 million would pay the subscription, and 1.5 million paying customers would help a lot more than just over 300k.

    Or am I missing something? Please, someone, correct me if I am misunderstanding this. #newyorktimes
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    Image of Hamilton Nolan Hamilton Nolan
    10/21/09

    @MadamePsychosis: Essentially here I'm trying to figure out: Is this outpouring of commenter support really a sign of a revenue source the NYT can depend on as something viable and useful? And I say, no. You're right that there could be more people willing to pay, who are some silent minority. I'm taking a crack at guessing what percentage of all those online visitors would seriously pay. Even if the percentage is larger, factoring in the unspoken people you say, my guess is it's not a big enough revenue source to depend on as something truly important. And to the more specific question here of what the sudden outpouring of commenter support meant, I'm saying: It didn't really mean much. #newyorktimes
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    Image of MadamePsychosis MadamePsychosis
    10/21/09

    @Hamilton Nolan: Thanks for the response. I agree that Mediaite is overreacting to the "outpouring" of commenter support and that they shouldn’t use it conclude that putting up a pay wall is viable. However, I personally wouldn’t rule out a pay wall as a realistic option. On top of the individuals that would subscribe (and obviously my guess there is larger than yours, but who knows), I also bet most universities would work out deals to get their students access like they currently do with Lexis Nexis and JSTOR, widening the "paying subscriber" list to include a lot of tuition-paying students who are currently outside the 15 million monthly readers. So, you know, maybe they're not doomed. Maybe. #newyorktimes
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    10/21/09

    In reply to Can an Online Fan Base Save the New York Times? No.
    the isp's should pay for content, like tv networks pay for programming, and distribute based on traffic #newyorktimes
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    Image of Btwbfdimho Btwbfdimho
    10/21/09

    In reply to Can an Online Fan Base Save the New York Times? No.

    I'd rather sell the midtown building, move to Newark, NJ to lower the overhead, and re-brand a little bit. Few people would notice the difference. #newyorktimes
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    10/21/09

    @Btwbfdimho: geeeeeeenius #newyorktimes
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    Image of Valerie Flame Valerie Flame
    10/21/09

    In reply to Can an Online Fan Base Save the New York Times? No.
    TIP JAR. #newyorktimes
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    Image of Chore Boy Chore Boy
    10/21/09

    In reply to Can an Online Fan Base Save the New York Times? No.
    New York Time's toast.

    Clever visual. #newyorktimes
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    blix promoted this comment Chore Boy was starred Chore Boy was unstarred
    Image of pony_express pony_express
    10/08/09

    In reply to Gourmet's Dead. Don't Blame The Internet.
    I love looking up recipes online and I enjoy reading the comments of how other people altered the recipe to make it work. Usually, if three or four people mention adding basil or cream etc. I will believe their "expertise." I like the everyman appeal of the internets, especially when it comes to something like the domestic arts of cooking or craft. I never follow a recipe to the exact amounts anyway and only read them for ideas. But Gourmet did have pretty pictures...
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    Image of MessiahsHandle MessiahsHandle
    10/08/09

    In reply to Gourmet's Dead. Don't Blame The Internet.
    I'd take Saveur over Gourmet any day. Saveur was really game changing. I hope it never dies.
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    meerkat promoted this comment MessiahsHandle was starred MessiahsHandle was unstarred
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    10/08/09

    @MessiahsHandle: I've made a couple of recipes from Saveur that were disasters (whereas the ones from Gourmet and Bon App have always been good). You can keep Saveur.
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    Image of MessiahsHandle MessiahsHandle
    10/08/09

    @meerkat: For me its about the pictorials and the graphic design. Smiling monks from Thailand in glorious saffron robes, lace hat adorned woman in Brittany making kouign amann, sheep frolicking contently in New Zealand pastures. It's like food and travel porn combined into one well endowed package. As far as spot on recipes I think that the prize has to go to Cooks Illustrated...
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    Image of Richard Blakeley Richard Blakeley
    10/08/09

    In reply to Gourmet's Dead. Don't Blame The Internet.
    Who needs Gourmet in a world of This Is Why You're Fat?
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    Image of sfBirdie sfBirdie
    10/08/09

    In reply to Gourmet's Dead. Don't Blame The Internet.
    I think he makes a valid point about opinions, though. This world (the internet, if you will) is full of too many opinions - such as this one - which blur the line between experienced ideas and casual "two cents".
    That being said, I do agree that the blood of Gourmet won't be found on any tweets, but rather a huge conglomerate publishing company incapable of changing their business model... even though, without any change, they face imminent death.
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    Image of superfuture superfuture
    10/08/09

    In reply to Gourmet's Dead. Don't Blame The Internet.
    Gourmet was a great brand (and magazine) that could have done very well on the web. Unfortunately, the strategy at Condé Nast wasn't in place to support it. I'm kind of surprised that the didn't just pop a Gourmet logo on Epicurious.com and call it a day.
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