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Bentpost
06/12/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
It's becoming abundantly clear that because the Republican party is so wired for combat, they don't see the value in retreating in order to regroup. So we get assholes like Breitbart (and Limbaugh, Rove, Gingrich, et al.) who are willing to use any U.S. tragedy to do battle on a fringe ideology and for personal gain. We should all pray that they find their own "pragmatic" leader soon, because until then we are going to get more intellectually dishonest shit screeds like Breitbart's.
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Dickdogfood
06/12/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
Look Breitbart--remember how silly Bill Clinton seemed when he said how something-or-other depended on what the meaning "is" was? Of course you remember that. Well, I think that moment in history provides us with a very important lesson we all can share, and that lesson is: for people in positions of power like yourself, arguing semantics is a desperation move. Leave it to the theorists and philosophers who--let's face it--do a way better job at it than you can.

Also! You might wanna take after your best fwend Drudge and stay out of the spotlight. Seems to work for him!
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onebadclam
06/11/09

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Just out of curiosity, Breitbart, with which political philosophy would this bonehead identify?

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Mean_Ol_Liberal
06/11/09

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OK so which one was von Brunn? A "black studies" major or a "lesbian studies" major?
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Mediahohoho
06/11/09

@Mean_Ol_Liberal: I think he was a women's studied major along with Scott Roeder at Wellesley.
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Novaload
06/11/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
All the debate about which label to slap on which extremist misses the point. Ridiculing or ignoring or isolating extremists only makes them worse; there has to be education and dialogue, if you want things like this to stop. It's not easy, but namecalling and label pasting only adds to the problem.
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Shawn Wasson
06/11/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
I'm with Breitbart here. The rush to pin these lunatics to the Republican party is ridiculous. In fact, his views (speaking of James von Brunn here) on Israel are far closer to the views of the Democratic party than those of the Republicans. His views on black Americans are far closer to those of former KKK star Senator Byrd, a Democrat, than the views of the Republican party.

Both James von Brunn and Scott Roeder are deranged lunatics who clearly had plans in the works before Obama was even a mainstream political figure. Rushing to score political points with bullshit like this is nearly as disgraceful as the crime itself.

I didn't hear Republicans rushing to connect Adam Gadahn or John Walker to the Democratic party. I didn't hear mainstream Republican rushing to pin the violence that killed two soldiers outside a recruiting station a dozen or so days ago on Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews, both of whom have called the Iraq war 'illegal' and labeled military leaders as 'war criminals' hell bent on indiscriminately bombing civilian population. And they would have been wrong to do so -- just as wrong as the pundits blaming this nonsense on the GOP.

The fact that the media seems to be on a mission to link any and all extremists to the Republican party is infuriating. I guess the model is to make half of the party look like dimwits incapable of leading and ripe for mockery and the other half as radical politicos one Glenn Beck-rant away from a bloody rampage.
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John Cook
06/11/09

@Shawn Wasson: "I didn't hear Republicans rushing to connect Adam Gadahn or John Walker to the Democratic party."

First: You weren't listening. Here's Jonah Goldberg on why the fact that John Walker Lindh's sorry life can be explained by the fact that his dad is gay: [article.nationalreview.com]

Second: There's zero overlap between Islamic militarism and values associated with the left wing. To blame Gadahn and Lindh's descent into jihadism on left-wing values would be insane. Think about it. They went to Aghanistan to fight for Al Quaida because they were followers of Gloria Steinem? Karl Marx? There are left-wing extremists, and they have killed people. Adam Gadahn and John Walker Lindh aren't among them. And the right does routinely blame the left for ELF, ALF, etc.

Third: Richard Nixon was in rough agreement with James von Brunn when it comes to the role of Jews in global affairs and domestic politics. He just disagreed about what to do with them. A staunch anti-Communist Republican president in whose administration Dick Cheney served referred to "cheap kikes" in the Oval Office, complained that the "the IRS is full of Jews," and agreed with Billy Graham that "this stranglehold" the Jews had on the media "has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain." He promised to do something about it if elected to a second term. But holding anti-Semitic attitudes automatically disqualifies you from being properly characterized as on the right wing of the political spectrum. Was Nixon a Republican, or wasn't he?
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Mediahohoho
06/11/09

@John Cook: Well said. I might also add that neither you nor anyone else I've read is trying to pin these extremists on the Republican Party so much as the extreme rightwing noise machine that continues to propagate the lies that 1) Obama hasn't demonstrated his citizenship when he has, that he's 2) coming for people's goddamn guns when he's not.

I've fucking had it with pseudo-intellectuals like Goldberg equating the Nazi Party (which was financed by Preston Bush and Marvin Pierce well into 1943), with American liberalism with absolutely no basis in fact. It's intellectual laziness for people who don't want to face up to the roots of their own movement.

Now...are the right wing talkers telling people to do this shit? No, but they sure are reaching and stoking up the nutjobs with bad wiring and bad chemicals and it would really serve the conservative movement well to figure out what part of their message so appeals to these violent crazies before their movement dries up and blows away.
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SaraRueful
06/11/09

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I wish no one had died in this event (except maybe Von Brunn). But if someone HAD to die, I wish it had been a plain white guy. Because you know this piece of shit has a hard-on right now knowing that he killed a black man.

Rest in peace, Stephen Tyrone Johns.
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DennyCrane
06/11/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
What a douchebag.
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Slovenly Muse
06/11/09

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So he's saying von Brunn shouldn't be considered a right-winger, because the severity of his crimes sets him radically apart from the typical, non-violent right-wingers that make up the majority. So when he's identified this way, everyone who considers him/herself a right-winger is slandered by association.

Not a particularly fair point (especially since he's trying to shift the blame to LEFT-wingers), but one I can understand.

Interesting, though, that angry people haven't been calling your voicemail (I assume) to make the same statement about Scott Roeder.
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naugahydeinplainsight
06/11/09

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Relatedly, saw this pic on Yahoo. Maybe the should leave one pane of glass with a bullet hole as a reminder:

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HiredGoons
06/11/09

@naugahydeinplainsight: I would leave it up.
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Mama Penguino
06/11/09

@naugahydeinplainsight: It's a good idea in theory, but I'm guessing this isn't the first time they've been "hit," so to speak. Our synagogue gets graffiti all the time (the usual stuff, swastikas, Juden, etc.) and if we just left it up as it happened, it would be a very depressing thing to see. I love the Holocaust Memorial Museum --and am a member-- and I don't want to see it broken.
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naugahydeinplainsight
06/11/09

@Mama Penguino: I get your point, but perhaps the fact someone died in this attack makes it different and warrants some permanent notice?
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Mama Penguino
06/11/09

@naugahydeinplainsight: I'm sure you are right. Just not broken glass, please.
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Trulymadlyme
06/11/09

@Mama Penguino: You can seal this glass between two panes. That would repair the broken glass but maintain the structure of the bullet hole.
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Baroness
06/11/09

@Trulymadlyme: I think Mama Penguino was alluding to Kristallnacht there, and I see her point.
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loosecanon
06/11/09

@Baroness: hey latey-latepants. i guess you beat me on the spelling though.
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Baroness
06/11/09

@loosecanon: Well, in the seven minutes that I suppose I spent reading all the comments on the page, and writing that one sentence, I did you the discourtesy of not refreshing the page to make sure you hadn't written a similar sentiment. A thousand apologies, I know this never happens on the Internet.
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Kobayashi Maru
06/11/09

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Breitbart's argument is unbeatable. It's a well known fact that many lesbian studies majors let off steam by ranting on freerepublic.
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SaraRueful
06/11/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
Holy shit, I think he started crying there at the end.
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BadUncle
06/11/09

@SaraRueful: Because he's a drunken pussy.
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Ohcaptainmycaptain
06/11/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
He's right, though. It is slander to associate that nut with the right wing, especially considering that the Weekly Standard is suspected of being one of his targets.

Before your moral vanity gives you a full on erection, you might at least try getting the facts straight. Nativism is not a conservative idea, the JB Society nutjobs were purged from the movement long ago, etc. Should we pry open the Left's closet, since we're counting crazies?

Andrew is right to be angry. And right to be a little drunk. I'll be the latter very, very soon.
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ArtfulSlinger
06/11/09

I love how it will always come back to the neo-cons and right wingers have no control over their message, its slander to SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THEM AS A GROUP and yet in the same sentence its perfectly acceptable to call a racist, anti-semite who shot a man in cold blood identical to a black or lesbian studies major.

This douche and his colleagues need to figure out if their message is apparently so weak that it will not resonate with anyone, so they can not be held accountable for these acts or that what these extremists are doing is somehow all boiled up after a mere six months of Obama presidency. Because if Im correct, these asshats owned the gov't and the media for the past 8 fucking years.
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BadUncle
06/11/09

@Ohcaptainmycaptain: By your reasoning, Joe Stalin wasn't a leftist. And the stars are not in the sky.
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SaraRueful
06/11/09

@Ohcaptainmycaptain: OK. When you people stop stressing the "Muslim" in "Muslim extremist" (because anyone who knows shit about Islam knows it is not about killing people), AND you stop trying to insult someone by calling them Muslim, then we'll stop calling racist anti-semitic homophobic misogynists "right-wing."
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Baroness
06/11/09

@Ohcaptainmycaptain: I've seen this meme passed around a lot today.

As if it were impossible for a vicious anti-Semite to dislike the Weekly Standard, notably vocal for their robust support of Israel (as is their prerogative).

So the thinking goes: the murderer cannot be right wing; he does not support Israel; ergo he must be a liberal!

Theis twisted pretzel logic going around today- that the Nazis were really liberals and it's impossible for right-wingers to be violent anti-Semites just makes my head hurt.

And the commentariat of the Internet is flooded with such assertions today.
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onebadclam
06/11/09

@Ohcaptainmycaptain: No need to go through the Left's closet, again. That was done capably by the DHS report on left wing extremism. You remember that report, right? It was the one not met with moral outrage by the far right.
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Niko Bellic
06/11/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
In words of Mullah Omar on 9/11/2001: we should really leave these things to courts.
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iplaudius
06/11/09

In reply to Andrew Breitbart: Holocaust Museum Killer Was a 'Multiculturalist'
Mr. Breitbart and his right-wing comrades in politics and the press regularly pander to nativists, white supremacists, and so forth, because they are part of the right-wing voting "base." For that reason, the values of white supremacists, racists, and the like have become part of the cluster of right-wing values and ideology.

It is extremely disingenuous of Breitbart to define "right wing" as though it were the mid-century conservatism of William F. Buckley, Jr. Right-wing voters include the people who still think 9/11 is connected to Iraq, who still want to see Obama’s gift certificate, who still think Obama is Muslim, and on and on and on. The right wing base produces domestic terrorists who harass, threaten, and kill people who do not agree with them. The right wing base wants to legislate from the preacher’s pulpit. The right wing base wants to cripple science-teaching schools, even as they run to the doctors when science is needed to save their loved ones. Regardless of what Breitbart likes or wants, that is the right wing today. It is a big tent full of scared, greedy, ignorant, fear-mongering idiots.
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HiredGoons
06/11/09

@iplaudius: 'gift certificate' ? I know what you meant... I think.
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iplaudius
06/11/09

@HiredGoons: Ha! Oh well, there it is etched in electrons for eternity.

The whole notion of his not having a U.S. birth certificate is so absurd that they may as well be asking for a gift certificate.
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LittleLolly
06/11/09

@iplaudius: And there is the pesky fact that William F. Buckley defended segregation on the ground that whites were superior.
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Randy Sexer
06/11/09

@LittleLolly: What about the pesky fact that most of the founding fathers owned slaves?

Isn't that maybe more extremist than defending segregation?

Were the founders right wing extremists?
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
06/12/09

@Randy Sexer: Right wing and left wing have modern connotations, just as Democrat and Republican stand for different things now than a century ago.
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