He even puts sicko Austrian man Josef Fritzl to shame.
Um, no. Although this circumstance is horrific, the Austrian kidnapped and raped his own daughter and kept them underground for decades while telling everyone that she's a prostitute and drug addict and a horrible mother who keeps leaving her kids on doorsteps. THAT dude is far more evil.
@The Real JR: I would say they're pretty much on the same level of evil. I wouldn't want to give either of these guys the privilege of being called less evil than anyone.
Maybe they should pass legislation requiring sex offenders' homes to be inspected from time to time. Not just for trapped victims but for child porn and that kind of thing. Since it is part of sentencing it would be constitutional. Its just part of parole.
Of course a better idea would be to cut off their weenies and stick them on a stick and parade them around town but that might not be constitutional.
But what of good Mrs Garrido? I think it's important to exonerate her of all blame and focus on just the guy.
The guy is a monster obvs. The woman is mentally ill or just severely misguided. Whatever her motives for kidnapping and enabling her husband to commit rape again and again on a kid, surely she must have been suffering from severe trauma herself.
@nathanst: It's futile to compare or rank crimes of this nature and magnitude. Also, this guy was raping the daughters of his original victim.
All around atrocities.
@Pesti-Esti: Well, I got a fire hazard citation for a six by six square foot plot of overgrown weeds at the back of my property. So...you know how it is. Some cities are more enforcement oriented than others.
@MissNormaDesmond: i have no idea how comments work now. i clicked on a heart-shaped thing under your avatar because your comment made me happiy. I heart-shaped-thinged you, and I'm ready to fulfill whatever commitment that requires of me. Are we goign steady now? married?? I just want to know.
Okay it's extreme. But I don't get your point "just like building houses for Habitat for Humanity"--religious people are behind that? I didn't know that. And I didn't mean spirtual, I meant organized religion that believes in a hereafter
@icestorm: Everyone who believes in a hereafter is a delusional religious fanatic? Ok, that's quite a leap. I'll admit I'm no fan of the organized religion but I have to believe in a hereafter or my panic attacks about death will set in. Immediately.
@icestorm: [www.habitat.org] For the record, I'm not religious, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate that many decent, principled, eminently sane and humane people are.
@bboston88: Whatever gets you through the night, bboston, I don't want to take that away. Someone said, "the more we live our lives to the fullest, the less we're afraid of death."
This is a sign that we need to keep closer tabs on convicted sex offenders -- at least the extremely dangerous ones, meaning Level 1 and Level 2. The authorities should be required to make home visits.
I'm sorry, but if you rape an underage girl, then you're clearly an incredibly sick and most likely incorrigible person, and having the authorities show up at your house once a month after you're released from prison is a small price to pay. If parole officers had visited this guy's home a few times, they probably would've figured out something was up.
@El_Gato: You're right. WTF? How did parole officers miss what this asshole was doing, unless they're weren't there?
....And here I thought most already did make home visits, at least for high level sex offenders.
For all the cries that stranger-based sex crimes are sensationalistic...those "high level sex offenders" (Level 3 in NY) make up a small, dangerous population that SHOULD get extra attention, and doesn't.
WTF, WTF, WTF. I hope alot of people feel ashamed of themselves right now.
@El_Gato: First, all child rapists are highly dangerous. The threat "levels" are completely misleading, specifically when it involves kids.* Second, anyone who rapes a defenseless victim, whether a child or a mentally disabled person, should be sent to jail for life. These victims are sitting ducks! Honestly, if you have to constantly monitor someone, it means they don't belong out of jail. And these child rapists will never stop on their own. Why would they? They know they'll all but get away with it.
*As a kid, my neighbor was convicted for raping a 12 year-old. He claimed he thought she was 16, even though she looked 8, he had been raping her for 3 years, and he was in his early 40s. He was released a couple years ago as a "low-level" threat even though he had a well-known history of raping girls as young as 3, including his own daughter. He was never charged on the other cases because none of the girls would step forward or due to statute of limitations (particularly in the case of his daughter who tried to take him to court to keep him in jail).
@Mount_Prion: Media lawyers are probably pounding on the front door of the jail hoping to represent him. (Incidentally, the post interview reporter chit-chat was pretty amusing.)
@Bos'un's Mate: "This is the biggest moment of your life." "And yours." They figured out how to save it, but not how to cut off the last 30 seconds where they're chuckling away...
What's even more horrific, is that there are more horrific things going on every minute, of every day, all over the world. Right now. And... right now.
@Uncle_Billy_Slumming: I was telling my dad this weekend, after we watched a lot of crime tv, that there were people right now being held as sex slaves and about how it freaked me out to think about it. I can't imagine what sort of hell this woman has been living in for the past 18 years. It terrifies me.
@downlow: For real. Just think back to all of the things you've done over the last 18 years and imagine that while you were doing those things, this poor woman (and untold others) was being held captive.
@downlow: "Sex" slaves? Try rape slaves. What does it take to call rape...rape?
This case is beyond sick. She's just a year older than me and she's been rotting away, trapped in horror all this time. The parole officers fucked up for nearly 20 years!
@Andalucía: Yes, and we can we call for the immediate firing of all case workers assigned to this fuck? A PA on a film would be canned immediately if they offended a starlet, right?
@cellardoor: I'm usually on board the "fire the caseworkers!" train, but honestly I can't think of what they could have done differently. I mean, they inspected the guy's yard. They inspected his house. He cooperated the whole time. There's only so much they can do--and keep in mind that human services agencies around the country are getting fucking decimated by budget cuts. There are very few caseworkers, and TONS of cases for them to manage. It's sad, but if you have something to hide and are as adept as this guy at hiding it, you'll hide it. If he had not gotten touched by the serious crazy and gone to UC Berkeley to preach, this poor woman would still be missing.
@Andalucía: Agreed. I was just using the common term I hear in these cases.
I don't think the parole officers were the first to fuck up. We need stronger sentences for rapists. Period. We need our states to pass legislation that will lock these people up for good. I read the comments on this guys blog last night. I say instead of venting our anger here or his blog or the comments sections of online news sites we inundate our legislators with emails, letters, phone calls and DEMAND that they pass laws to impose stricter sentences on rapists.
The fact that rapists receive such light punishment is a throw-back to the good ol' boy days and shit needs to change.
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Um, no. Although this circumstance is horrific, the Austrian kidnapped and raped his own daughter and kept them underground for decades while telling everyone that she's a prostitute and drug addict and a horrible mother who keeps leaving her kids on doorsteps. THAT dude is far more evil.
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Of course a better idea would be to cut off their weenies and stick them on a stick and parade them around town but that might not be constitutional.
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The guy is a monster obvs. The woman is mentally ill or just severely misguided. Whatever her motives for kidnapping and enabling her husband to commit rape again and again on a kid, surely she must have been suffering from severe trauma herself.
There must be some way to make her also a victim.
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I hope she is able to overcome this and have a fulfilling happy life with her children.
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I consider stories like this and feel beyond helpless and angry.
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Fritzl's victim was his mentally-retarded daughter.
Both cases are awful and I hope both men receive their due reward for these crimes.
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I'm sorry, but if you rape an underage girl, then you're clearly an incredibly sick and most likely incorrigible person, and having the authorities show up at your house once a month after you're released from prison is a small price to pay. If parole officers had visited this guy's home a few times, they probably would've figured out something was up.
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....And here I thought most already did make home visits, at least for high level sex offenders.
For all the cries that stranger-based sex crimes are sensationalistic...those "high level sex offenders" (Level 3 in NY) make up a small, dangerous population that SHOULD get extra attention, and doesn't.
WTF, WTF, WTF. I hope alot of people feel ashamed of themselves right now.
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*As a kid, my neighbor was convicted for raping a 12 year-old. He claimed he thought she was 16, even though she looked 8, he had been raping her for 3 years, and he was in his early 40s. He was released a couple years ago as a "low-level" threat even though he had a well-known history of raping girls as young as 3, including his own daughter. He was never charged on the other cases because none of the girls would step forward or due to statute of limitations (particularly in the case of his daughter who tried to take him to court to keep him in jail).
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This case is beyond sick. She's just a year older than me and she's been rotting away, trapped in horror all this time. The parole officers fucked up for nearly 20 years!
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I don't think the parole officers were the first to fuck up. We need stronger sentences for rapists. Period. We need our states to pass legislation that will lock these people up for good. I read the comments on this guys blog last night. I say instead of venting our anger here or his blog or the comments sections of online news sites we inundate our legislators with emails, letters, phone calls and DEMAND that they pass laws to impose stricter sentences on rapists.
The fact that rapists receive such light punishment is a throw-back to the good ol' boy days and shit needs to change.